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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on March 10, 2011, 11:58:35 AM
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There's nothing particularly interesting in this thread at this point but I thought the OP was interesting for a couple of reasons.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x600920
mrmpa (298 posts) Thu Mar-10-11 12:52 AM
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What the **** happened
I'm on EDT, not feeling well and slept from 6:30 to 11:15. I turn on the TV to Lawrence O'Donnell repeat of his 8 o'clock show and see a ticker that says Walker used a nuclear option. Start reading DU, my in box has news from the Washington Post and now I'm watching Rachel's. I'll see how things pan out over the next week and make my way there next week-end.
This reminds me of the stories my mom has told me. She's a few weeks short of 81 and a proud retired union member. Her oldest sister if alive would be 95. When my mom was 5 and 6, her sister's husband would come home bloody and bruised from run ins with the law and scabs at steel mills. He was fighting for the rights of the United Steel Workers. He retired from a local mill and was union rep for all of his career.
Back in 1985, when myself and 3 co-workers were organizing a union at our work place, he's the man I went to for answers on contract negotiating terms. He told me that salary was always high on the agenda, but to also ask for things that didn't cost the company money, but would make the work place safe and union members safer. As our work place was a University Police Department, we asked for safety equipment in our vehicles, haz mat gear, training sessions, and oh yes better wages, we got it all.
Negotiating as my uncle taught me isn't always about the money, but to make the work place safe and sane.
The 2 things I notice in the thread are; DUmmies and those like them have a way different thought of what "Doesn't cost the company money" than I do.
The second thing is; What in the hell does a University Police Dept. need with haz mat gear??
KC
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These people are very bad at math or they don't appreciate the hard work and sacrifice, as well as the risk, that goes into starting a business.
They want all of the fruits of hard work without doing the work.
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What struck me about this alleged union mommy is her frikkin' age. YES, there was once upon a time when unions were necessary to the health and wellbeing of workers. That, as far as I'm concerned, ended the moment union bosses got the bit between their teeth and started shaking down the companies, WHO WERE BY THEN UNDER DIFFERENT MANAGERS WITH DIFFERENT MIND-SETS, ie, decent human beings for the most part, for every damn dime they could. I see the unions exactly the same way I see the minority rights people. At one time there was a need, indeed a moral imperative for them. That day passed at least 40 years ago.
Not to mention, the union leaders who were real heroes back in the day bear no resemblance to today's mobsters. :bird:
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The second thing is; What in the hell does a University Police Dept. need with haz mat gear??
KC
Seen the students lately?
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Seen the students lately?
You know ... being from Texas I never even thought about Berkley!
:thatsright:
KC
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These people are very bad at math or they don't appreciate the hard work and sacrifice, as well as the risk, that goes into starting a business.
They want all of the fruits of hard work without doing the work.
Well, they ARE DUmbasses.
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Name one thing that a union has done that has made the host organism more efficient or more competitive?
Just one thing.
The reason it didn't cost the host organism anything is because the union reps went to the Hazmat Uniform Tree and got them for free.