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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on March 04, 2011, 11:10:46 PM
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Mar-04-11 10:02 PM
Original message
Today's Heroes: The Wisconsin 14 - "YOU ARE WHAT DEMOCRACY IS ALL ABOUT!!!" Updated at 10:02 PM
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 10:04 PM by kpete
Richard Trumka
President, AFL-CIO
Posted: March 4, 2011 09:25 PM
Today's Heroes: The Wisconsin 14
# "YOU ARE WHAT DEMOCRACY IS ALL ABOUT!!!"
Gov. Walker and state Republicans may be sending them $100-a-day fines and arrest warrants, but take a look at some Facebook and phone messages real people are sending the brave Wisconsin 14:
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# "I was taught to either stand for something or fall for anything....Thank you for setting a great example!"
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# "Thank you, thank you, thank you! Please know how much the citizens of Wisconsin understand your sacrifices in leaving your homes, families and constituents to do the right thing and stop this ridiculous budget 'repair' bill. You give us hope!"
# "Thank you all for the guts you have shown throughout this time. I believe the story of the Wisconsin 14 will go down in history."
# "Muchas gracias."
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MORE:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-trumka/todays-her...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x561642
Seems to me they are circumventing democracy by running and hiding. The people put the governor and the republicans in the majority in office and they are preventing the people who the majority put in office from doing their job.
kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Mar-04-11 10:05 PM
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1. They are patriots..
and heroes.
Wonder if they still be heroes after all the layoffs.
If the GOP pulled this stunt all of DU would be screaming Impeachment.
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The 14 Democrats are cowards of the worse kind. They deserve neither praise or security from their actions come reelection.
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Oh puhleeeeze !!! Misdirected and cheap accolades with inconsiderate vocabulary such as we hear from sports anchors describing the feats of athletes in games has always annoyed me a bit. When it coms from people such as those at the DUmp though, to describe such cowards as the "Wisconsin 14" is goes well beyond annoying, frankly it pisses me right off.
"Heroes".
"Brave".
"Sacrifices".
"Guts".
Air sickness bag, please!
Here is an example of someone actually worthy of those descriptions, someone who has earned them the hard way, and selflessly so. It is only because of people like this that those in places like Wisconsin, Berkeley, and the Westboro Hate Mob have the right to say the things they do with impunity. They themselves have done NOTHING to earn those rights, yet they enjoy them fully.
This is a man who is a HERO, who has made no small number of SACRIFICES, a BRAVE man with GUTS who will GO DOWN IN HISTORY unlike the despicable 14 who will GO DOWN IN INFAMY. He stands head and shoulders above them all and he does so on two prosthetic limbs.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/09/25/wounded-iraq-double-amputee-returns-lines-afghanistan/
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people who retreat and hide rather than stand up and fight for what they believe in regardless of the odds are heros? What alternate universe do these DUmmies exist in?
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people who retreat and hide rather than stand up and fight for what they believe in regardless of the odds are heros? What alternate universe do these DUmmies exist in?
The only thing we've figured out is wherever it is, it is as far from reality as it can be, traveling parallel to reality.
Meaning, the 2 will NEVER intersect.
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Ohhhhhhh, so gridlocking government is Democracy. Dang, I've been wrong all these years. :thatsright:
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The 14 Democrats are cowards of the worse kind.
I wouldn't go that far.
Somewhat, but not that far.
But I have a question for the primitives--why was it "bad" when the Republican minorities in the House and Senate 2007-2011 used their legislative powers to stop, or at least stall, some of the ruinous 0bama proposals, but now it's "good" for the Dem minority in the Wisconsin Senate to do what they can do, to stop, or at least stall, some of the constructive Walker proposals.
Why was one thing "bad," and this thing is "good," when they're essentially the same thing?
One can't have things both ways.
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I wouldn't go that far.
Somewhat, but not that far.
But I have a question for the primitives--why was it "bad" when the Republican minorities in the House and Senate 2007-2011 used their legislative powers to stop, or at least stall, some of the ruinous 0bama proposals, but now it's "good" for the Dem minority in the Wisconsin Senate to do what they can do, to stop, or at least stall, some of the constructive Walker proposals.
Why was one thing "bad," and this thing is "good," when they're essentially the same thing?
One can't have things both ways.
Frank, you're feeding the one of the DUmmies fantasies. They like to believe that it was the republicans that stopped Obama from being a Gos and implementing all of their wishes, when the simple truth is that Obama couldn't even convince all of his own party members to easily pass his agenda. Democrats stopped most of their own dreams for Obama.
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Frank, you're feeding the one of the DUmmies fantasies. They like to believe that it was the republicans that stopped Obama from being a god and implementing all of their wishes, when the simple truth is that Obama couldn't even convince all of his own party members to easily pass his agenda. Democrats stopped most of their own dreams for Obama.
You sir, and I, being reasonable people, know that, but the primitives have no idea.
In the primitive perception, the evil Republicans stopped things, and since that's their perception, I'd like to know how it was any different from the evil Badger Dems stopping things.
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You sir, and I, being reasonable people, know that, but the primitives have no idea.
In the primitive perception, the evil Republicans stopped things, and since that's their perception, I'd like to know how it was any different from the evil Badger Dems stopping things.
There is a huge difference actually, Frank. The GOP didn't run away like cowards. They showed up at work and stood together. Knowing full well if the dems stood together they would lose. The DUmmies would never admit that point. I do get your point about them bitching and moaning about gridlock when the GOP did it and are applauding the dems for grid locking. I just thought the difference needed to be pointed out so we can't be considered hypocrites for supporting the GOP and condemning the dems for the same tactic when in fact it isn't the same.
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Ohhhhhhh, so gridlocking government is Democracy.
this from the same group of people who think paying taxes is patriotic..
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Going to your appointed place at the capitol to represent your constituents in the legislative process is democracy. Abrogating your responsibility to do so by running and hiding and subverting that process is the very antithesis of democracy. In practical terms, it bears a closer resemblance to mob rule.
Every convention of society is ass backwards to DUmmies.
Cowardice = bravery
Sedition = patriotism
Capitulation = defense
Taxation = charity
Hate = tolerance
Perversion = virtue
Censorship = freedom
There is nothing they don't wish to corrupt.
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This is very serious. This is at the very least, a constitutional crisis at the state level. It is a direct assault at our republican form of government.
There is nothing patriotic about it. It is sick.