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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 03, 2011, 05:59:03 AM
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and that word is:
Hypocrony (hip-ock-rohn-ee) n. - the convergence between hypocrisy and irony
To wit:
OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-02-11 09:49 PM
Original message
Limbaugh is dangerous
One week ago I created a petition to Remove Rush Limbaugh from Armed Forces Radio.
Here is the original thread (I don't want to rehash disputes about censorship or us making choices for soldiers, etc.):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
I bring this up again because I'm realizing more and more that he really instigated so much of the negativity and toxic environment that has reached a fever pitch in this country. Many of the negative, insulting phrases and talking points started with him. He has been influential since the early 90's. The whole "liberal media bias" started with him (someone reminded me how he hammered this home during the Thomas-Hill debates way back when).
We've grown accustomed to the trashing of all things liberal and progressive over the last two decades that we tend to forget where it all started.
If he were just an entertainer, and not someone for us to take seriously, politicians wouldn't be going on his show to apologize for veering away from the talking points. He IS the titular head of the Republican Party.
He is setting the tone. And it's grotesque.
I think he is very, very dangerous; he just signed a contract through 2016 for $38 million/year.
Beck and Palin are being seen for the jokes they are, but this guy has done an awful lot of damage to this country and, now that a black man is in the White House, is hell bent on doing MUCH more damage. His listeners are responsible for choosing to listen to him, but he is so damn destructive and manipulative with his vitriol that people listen casually and then end up getting sucked into it if they're unhappy about their life. He gives them an outlet, and a target for that discontent: liberals, progressives, democrats and now, most certainly, Obama.
I've seen this happen too often. :(
I don't want to lose sight of the scope of his influence on not only political discussion in this country, but discussion in general. He made everything very personal and created a tremendous division between citizens and it's ramped up now. Fox News has capitalized on what he started, but he definitely started it.
We have a plethora of dragons to slay but, imho, he is definitely one of them, and a key influence. He's like the dragon whisperer. :(
I'm just sayin'....
After which its sig appears:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9ATvtk4j6y0/TMBOLeT9rBI/AAAAAAAABj8/pCRAMkPBAqk/ChooseLoveDU1.jpg)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x542312
Someone please point out the love in the aforementioned OP.
Instead the OP is nothing but fear-mongering.
It's hypocrisy.
It's irony.
It's HYPOCRONY!
Post your examples of DUmbass hypocrony here.
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They are scared to death of any opinion contary to theirs.
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Post your examples of DUmbass hypocrony here.
It would use up more than the bandwidth of this whole site, sir, and I'm not kidding.
It would use up more bandwidth than the whole entire Drudge Report.
It would use up the whole internet, giving examples.
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If the Supreme Court held the Westboro shitbirds can't be touched because their speech is 'Political' (Though that seems a stretch to me, I would have called it purely crazy-cult religious babble), I'd say Rush is golden.
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Ricochet21 (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-02-11 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. Limbaugh
is despicable. One of the most anti-American poisons in our history. He shames my sign of Capricorn. I am so embarassed when I see my friends listen to him. I wanna be sick.
:mental:
LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-02-11 09:58 PM
Response to Original message
8. He is the mouthpiece.
He's plugged into the apparatus, but doesn't author the talking points, he simply adheres to them.
OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-02-11 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #8
14. I wonder who his puppetmaster is...
He's been at this a long time. He's all about the $$$ (probably doesn't even believe half the shit he spews), so I wonder who has been behind his schtick the last two decades?
Was Rove instrumental? We know Gingrich was involved in getting him on Armed Forces Radio.
The power behind Limbaugh would be an interesting investigation. Surely someone has done that by now? I'll look ...
Be sure to check under the bed and in the closet when the lights are out.
Choose Love
Not Fear
Retard.
BobbyBoring (445 posts) Thu Mar-03-11 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #14
75. The power behind Limbaugh
is the same that's behind the whole RW movement. He is dangerous and needs to be removed from all radio PERIOD.
How long until one of these idiots takes a shot at Rush?
LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-02-11 10:00 PM
Response to Original message
10. K&R my husband and I were talking about how vitriolic the US has gotten, how
it is impossible to talk reasonably with teabagger types. He has almost gotten into fights, fist-fights, with coworkers who were incredibly rude to him upon finding out he did not share their political views (Limbaugh-views.)
He walked away from one former friend. He was mentioning that it wasn't even the right-wing views spewed all the time that bothered him so much as what a jerk this former friend turned into. Snarky and nasty and mean and sarcastic and all about himself, just a huge huge jerk. And he didn't always used to be that way.
I was thinking then that this rhetoric has literally changed personalities, that people who get caught in Limbaugh's web or Beck's web or whatever, not only believe nonsense but they become real assholes if they weren't already.
Anyone else noticed that trend?
I think it is a dangerous trend for people to be so brainwashed and to have their basic personalities changed so much for the worse.
TRANSLATION: "These Teabaggers just get unreasonable when you call them hate-mongering fascist race-baiters and demand they not be allowed to speak freely. So how can I carry on a conversation lecture this way?"
mmonk (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-02-11 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #10
19. It is the use of eliminationist speech.
The longer we don't address it, the more dangerous it will become.
You mean "eliminationist speech" like:
BobbyBoring (445 posts) Thu Mar-03-11 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #14
75. The power behind Limbaugh
is the same that's behind the whole RW movement. He is dangerous and needs to be removed from all radio PERIOD.
This next one won't be around very long:
du_da (231 posts) Thu Mar-03-11 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #10
57. Maybe if you examine that statement closely you will see why.
"K&R my husband and I were talking about how vitriolic the US has gotten, how it is impossible to talk reasonably with teabagger types. He has almost gotten into fights, fist-fights, with coworkers who were incredibly rude to him upon finding out he did not share their political views (Limbaugh-views.)"
If that doesn't work go on to your next statement, specificlly this line:
"Snarky and nasty and mean and sarcastic and all about himself, just a huge huge jerk."
It always amazes me how people on our side are so amazed that the opposition is unwilling to listen. We are our own worst enemy.
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-03-11 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #10
68. THIS is the only way the right wing can rise ... by creating more aggression, violent behavior --
in America -- and making it more acceptable -- more normal --
That's a large part of what the T-BAGGER creation by Koch Bros. is about, imo --
taking America to a new level of political aggression and violence.
How do we, or even an elected Dem officials at a Town Hall Meeting, respond to a
"know-it-all" right winger with a rifle slung over their shoulder?
You can't -- and that's the purpose of all of this! To make reply impossible.
Because any bit of TRUTH will shatter rw myths --
TRUTH is like a pebble hitting a mirror -- shattering it!
Keep on tossin' those pebbles!!
Let's talk about the rocks in your head.
Zax2me (397 posts) Wed Mar-02-11 10:35 PM
Response to Original message
21. Not really.
He's been around 20 years and until a couple months ago we had a Dem Senate, Congress and Obama.
Reports of his impact have been greatly exaggerated.
OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-03-11 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. I don't agree...
Obviously.
He may only be affecting a certain percentage of our population -- directly and inadvertently -- but the poison he has injected into our society is significant, imho.
He has bullied progressives for two decades. So much so, and for so long, that many have forgotten that so much of it started with Limbaugh.
He has been a huge influence in more ways than I think we fully realize. I don't like to give him that credit, but I think it's dangerous not to be aware of it and fight against it.
Choose Love
Not Fear
fittosurvive (210 posts) Thu Mar-03-11 01:45 AM
Response to Original message
26. We wouldn't need the 1st Amendment if everyone agreed.
OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-03-11 02:00 AM
Response to Reply #26
27. The right to free speech does not include the right to incite others to acts of violence.
Nor to spew treasonous lies about the Commander-in-Chief to military personnel.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/02/951587/-Limbau...
And what is in that damning indictment at DKos?
A quote of Limbaugh calling liberals cockroaches.
GASP!
But it gets worse.
In the same article we learn:
In 1993-94, Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines was a Rwandan radio station which appealed to the Hutu population, with its combination of bawdy humor, popular Zairean music and racist propaganda against the Tutsi. "It frequently referred to Tutsis as "cockroaches" (example: "You [Tutsis] are cockroaches! We will kill you!").
:thatsright:
So apparently the arch-racist Limbaugh is taking his rhetorical cues from Rwandan tribalists. Who knew?
I thought he was channeling his inner Tony Montana:
**** Gaspar Gomez! And **** the ****in' Diaz brothers! **** 'em all! I bury those cockroaches!
Choose Love
Not Fear
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And what is in that damning indictment at DKos?
A quote of Limbaugh calling liberals cockroaches.
GASP!
An undeserved slap in the mandibles to hard-working cockroaches everywhere.
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OK which one of these posters called Rush today? I only caught a brief snip of it but he self-id as a democrat activist. :lol:
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OK which one of these posters called Rush today? I only caught a brief snip of it but he self-id as a democrat activist. :lol:
You caught that too? Sure sounded exactly like the race baitin' POS on the show today!
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Yeah, cuz all the protesters in Wisconsin are "tea baggers"! That's what accounts for all the vitriol, violence and hatred we see everyday. Anyone who leaves their children in those schools after their teachers are throwing a vicious, irresponsible tantrum deserves the education they get.
Cindie
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-03-11 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. I don't agree...
Obviously.
He may only be affecting a certain percentage of our population -- directly and inadvertently -- but the poison he has injected into our society is significant, imho.
He has bullied progressives for two decades. So much so, and for so long, that many have forgotten that so much of it started with Limbaugh.
He has been a huge influence in more ways than I think we fully realize. I don't like to give him that credit, but I think it's dangerous not to be aware of it and fight against it.
Bullshit, Cochise.
I rarely listen to Rush any more, but I remember what he used to say back in the early '90s when he was just starting to catch fire and a lot of stations began picking up his show. He'd say that he wasn't saying anything that any conservative didn't already think. He simply provided a source that reflected those thoughts publicly, which up to that point had rarely existed in the liberal-dominated media. So much so that conservatives had wondered if they were a minority. His rising popularity indicated to conservatives that they did indeed exist in large numbers and could make their influence known despite the MSM ignoring and marginalizing them.
That was the source of his popularity, not so much influencing as giving a voice to those who had been muted for decades. Unlike the brain-dead liberal media who spoon feeds their audience and are worshiped in return, conservatives don't follow Rush, he follows them.