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Title: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: miskie on March 01, 2011, 03:19:15 PM
note from franksolich: this is three threads all merged into one; naturally this is a popular subject of great interest, and hence the duplications which aren't exact duplications--carry on

Skins explains yesterdays hiccup HERE (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x534859) but that doesn't stop the conspiracy theories.

Quote from: Skins
Skinner ADMIN  (1000+ posts)          Tue Mar-01-11 03:28 PM
Original message
People have been asking what this so-called "DNS problem" is, and how it happened. Let me explain.   
      

Whenever you type a domain name for a web site into your web browser, you computer needs to figure out where that website is. So it sends a request to something called a DNS server, which says something like this: "I'm looking for www.democraticunderground.com, could you please tell me where it is?" And then the DNS server tells your computer where to find the site. There are many, many DNS servers in the world that handle these requests.

For 10 years, we haven't had a problem. Your computer asks for democraticunderground.com, and some DNS server somewhere would point you to the correct place. Until yesterday, when some of the DNS servers stopped pointing to the correct place. Here's why.

On January 20 of this year, I received an email from our domain registrar, indicating that they had received a complaint about our "WHOIS" information being incorrect. In other words, someone complained that the public contact information related to the democraticunderground.com domain name was wrong. I do not know who made the request, or why. I suppose it is possible that it came from a concerned citizen, but I think it is more likely that it was a bored person who sent the complaint on a lark to see if they might cause us some problems. Which they did.

I immediately logged in to our domain registrar and updated our contact info. Some of you may be aware that Democratic Underground changed our PO Box last year, and that had not been updated on our domain name contact info. I changed the PO Box number and the Zip Code and clicked submit. Received my confirmation email about the successful update of my contact info. Domain registrar has a record of the fact that I updated our info. Problem solved.

Except the problem wasn't solved.

What I did not realize -- and what my domain registrar did not tell me -- is that the complaint was about the Democratic Underground PHONE NUMBER, not the PO Box. And, indeed, the phone number on our WHOIS information is wrong: 555-555-5555. That is the phone number that has appeared on our account for ten years, because I don't want some right-wing nut-job crank-calling me with death threats in the middle of the night.

Put another way: This was the insidious computer glitch commonly referred to as "human error." I get an email about out-of-date contact info. I remember that my PO Box recently changed. I log in and change PO Box. I completely ignore the incorrect phone number.

I did not receive any more correspondence from my domain registrar until yesterday morning around 11:00 am, when I got an email with the ominous title "Name Server Update Confirmation ID", which stated that my name server had been changed. I had not requested the Name Server Update.

So I immediately go to the domain registrar's website and try to log in, but get a message indicating that an Admin has blocked me out.

My first thought is "Holy S***. Someone's ripped off our password, logged in to our account, gave themselves admin privileges, changed the name server, and then blocked us out."

I immediately get on the telephone and call the domain registrar. While I'm on hold -- for 25 minutes! -- I am frantically changing all the passwords on all my accounts on every website I can think of.

Finally get through to a human being, start explaining my problem, and then AT&T drops my call.

Call back, wait another 25 minutes, finally talk to a human being, who explains that my phone number is wrong. Which is why they changed our DNS. No "last chance" email. No "I see you changed your info but missed one thing." They just shut it off.

I changed the phone number, and updated our DNS info. But the damage was done.


Even thought we had updated our DNS info, it takes a long time for the updates to spread (or "propagate") to all the DNS servers throughout the Internet. In fact, well after the time I corrected the DNS info, some DNS servers had not yet received the earlier INCORRECT DNS information that was working its way around -- let alone the correction which was way behind and (even now) still hasn't made it to some of the darker corners of the Internet.

They say it sometimes takes as long as 72 hours for DNS information to propagate throughout the Internet.

If you are still experiencing problems, you can get around by setting your computer to use a public DNS server. Some instructions are available here. Google has not been working for me, but OpenDNS has:

208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

If anyone else has any tips, feel free to post them in this thread.

Thank you for your patience and understanding. I apologize for the screw-up.

David Allen
DU Administrator

And let the paranoia begin !
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on March 01, 2011, 03:25:31 PM
These idiots need rubber rooms. :mental:

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kentuck  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-01-11 03:55 PM
Response to Original message
13. David, I don't think it was a screw-up...
 I think it was nefarious. I really do.

Like you would be the only person to make such a minor mistake and get shut down?

I think there is more. I just don't know what?

However, I do think it is political and an infringement upon our right to free speech. If that is the case...


Look, Kentuck.  No one cares enough to shut down your precious Democrat Underground.  Mainstream Dems won't have a thing to do with your site.  Even $kimmer realizes this.  He just takes your money and allows you guys to fling feces in a somewhat controlled environment.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on March 01, 2011, 03:26:30 PM
And speaking of guys who still aren't getting laid:

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steve2470  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-01-11 04:11 PM
Response to Original message
27. thanks for taking the time to explain this, Skinner ! nt
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Ballygrl on March 01, 2011, 03:34:02 PM
Was kentuck upset about American's For Prosperity being down?
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: FreeBorn on March 01, 2011, 03:35:14 PM
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Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: ScubaGuy on March 01, 2011, 03:43:25 PM

I'm having a hard time believing that story.

I'm willing to bet that Skinner either forgot to or just didn't pay the bill, let the registration on democraticunderground.com expire, or was dicking around with the registration page and didn't know what the hell he was doing.



Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: chitownchica on March 01, 2011, 03:46:30 PM
These idiots need rubber rooms. :mental:
 

Look, Kentuck.  No one cares enough to shut down your precious Democrat Underground.  Mainstream Dems won't have a thing to do with your site.  Even $kimmer realizes this.  He just takes your money and allows you guys to fling feces in a somewhat controlled environment.


hahahaha- look at the big brain on Kentuck.  It's one thing to think such a stupid thing. It's far worse to write it and have those idiotic thoughts memorialized. 

(http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo28/dlt323/conspiracy.jpg)
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: PatriotGame on March 01, 2011, 04:12:35 PM
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kentuck  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-01-11 03:55 PM
Response to Original message
13. David, I don't think it was a screw-up...
 I think it was nefarious. I really do.

Like you would be the only person to make such a minor mistake and get shut down?

I think there is more. I just don't know what?

However, I do think it is political and an infringement upon our right to free speech. If that is the case...

Repeat after me numb-nuts-DUmmy:

"Vee-Are-Double U-See"

Suck it...
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 01, 2011, 05:05:28 PM
I'm having a hard time believing that story.

I'm willing to bet that Skinner either forgot to or just didn't pay the bill, let the registration on democraticunderground.com expire, or was dicking around with the registration page and didn't know what the hell he was doing.





Yep, he's just coverin' his ass. Given that the complete accumulative IQ of the DUmp is around 13, I'd go with skins hittin' the wrong button, or missin' a payment.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: franksolich on March 01, 2011, 05:14:12 PM
I don't think my fellow alum Skins needs to worry about calls from "right-wing nut-jobs" if he listed the correct telephone number.

If I were my fellow alum, I'd be f-a-a-a-a-r more concerned about calls from primitives whining about this or that.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Randy on March 01, 2011, 05:31:07 PM
Private site on a private server hosted by a private company ran through a series of privately owned computers in a network that's privately owned hooked to a privately owned trunk line. All this is governed by rules that everyone who hooks to the public part of the network follows.

So in what part of this chain does free speech apply to?
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Revolution on March 01, 2011, 06:20:24 PM

hahahaha- look at the big brain on Kentuck.  It's one thing to think such a stupid thing. It's far worse to write it and have those idiotic thoughts memorialized. 

(http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo28/dlt323/conspiracy.jpg)

Meh. I thought it was a possibility, but nothing more. I'm not one of the DUmors who will delve into it like Scientology, or Xultor's....not even sure what to call it anymore...


Since the thread is here, I found reply 6 to be quite interesting. WHY would you post that personal DU info, and WHY would $kinner not consider that a high crime worthy of banishment? It is unlikely someone would use that stuff for any purpose, but for gosh sakes, it is supposed to be private, isn't it?
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: NHSparky on March 01, 2011, 06:45:59 PM
I'll just drop this little tidbit in here, since nobody has seen fit to give credit where credit is due:

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!!!!!
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Ballygrl on March 01, 2011, 06:46:30 PM
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Paradoxical  (35 posts) Tue Mar-01-11 03:51 PM
Response to Original message
11. I can't believe they didn't try to contact you first.
   
They basically shut down one of the largest forums on the internet.

Really?

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The Drudge Report:

Alexa Traffic Rank: 426
United States Flag Traffic Rank in US: 83

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Breitbart:

Alexa Traffic Rank: 3,135
United States Flag Traffic Rank in US: 804
 

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Free Republic:

Alexa Traffic Rank: 4,735
United States Flag Traffic Rank in US: 1,150

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Democratic Underground:

Alexa Traffic Rank: 5,585
United States Flag Traffic Rank in US: 1,525


 
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Revolution on March 01, 2011, 07:01:42 PM
ATTENTION SKINNER: I believe what I am about to post via one of your members at Democratic Underground" would be a violation. Not sure about your TOS, or how you feel about your privacy potentially being infiltrated by a third party, but here it is:

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Recursion (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Mar-01-11 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #9
43. I do; which client are you using?
   
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 04:37 PM by Recursion
Registrant:
Democratic Underground, LLC
PO Box 42557
Washington, DC 20015
US

Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: DEMOCRATICUNDERGROUND.COM
Created on: 05-DEC-00
Expires on: 05-DEC-15
Last Updated on: 28-FEB-11

Administrative, Technical Contact:
Allen, David skinner@democraticunderground.com
Democratic Underground, LLC
PO Box 42557
Washington, DC 20015
US
202-XXX-XXXX
202-XXX-XXXX (edited for Skinner's privacy, even though it's being served by whois servers currently)


Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.DCA.NET
NS2.DCA.NET
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x534859

Now, I wish to tell you that the edited version is not all that is out there. I caught the original, and one of our members has it safe and sound. You may want to be more careful in the future about these kinds of things. People like me...we are not "evil forces." We merely wish to help you make better decisions, monitor your members a bit more closely, and safeguard yourself.

Humbly yours,
Revolution.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Tess Anderson on March 01, 2011, 07:34:46 PM
Private site on a private server hosted by a private company ran through a series of privately owned computers in a network that's privately owned hooked to a privately owned trunk line. All this is governed by rules that everyone who hooks to the public part of the network follows.

So in what part of this chain does free speech apply to?

I see what you mean, but remember, you're not stupid. I mean, I doubt you'd do this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x535512

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hlthe2b  (1000+ posts)      Tue Mar-01-11 04:53 PM
Original message
I have tried every single recommended fix to connect to DU
 I am this close to saying just delete my account after 10 continuous years. Can you say frustrated? I have lost two days trying to resolve this, and now have to get my deadline work done.

 


Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 01, 2011, 07:42:44 PM
Come on, Skimmer, what a crock! His loooong, convoluted tale sounds exactly like the Andyscammers describing their fraudulent woes. All he needs to add is the story of how he went into the domain registrar's office and found all his paperwork lost on someone's desk.

And then franksolich shut down the DUmp's Paypal account. By the time they got that straightened out, it was too late, and they had to reschedule updating the DUmp DNS information.

But it's all okay, because now all that corrected DUmp DNS info is in a single secret account, "Sealed vs. Sealed", which will be opened and put online within 24 business hours. Plagiarist Pitt is outraged, and vows to grind that DNS server under his boot, scrape it off with his knife, and feed it to his cat.

Just be sure to keep sending money, because Skimmer is only ten dollars away from dumping the enigmatic Elad and hiring a competent IT guy - maybe DUmmy greenbriar's alcoholic skinhead husband, who's apparently been ditched by the city of Wichita.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Revolution on March 01, 2011, 07:47:57 PM
 :rotf: :lmao:....to all of the above.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Revolution on March 01, 2011, 10:21:55 PM
Frank, I believe you wanted to do something with this?  :-)

And I'm surprised there have been no replies here thus far. I would think that this is big. Maybe not HUGE, but no small matter, I would say...
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: FreeBorn on March 01, 2011, 10:52:17 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: thelaughingman on March 02, 2011, 12:31:08 AM
That's right, folks.  He blames us -- conservatives.  Multiple times.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Skinner/396

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On January 20 of this year, I received an email from our domain registrar, indicating that they had received a complaint about our "WHOIS" information being incorrect. In other words, someone complained that the public contact information related to the democraticunderground.com domain name was wrong. I do not know who made the request, or why. I suppose it is possible that it came from a concerned citizen, but I think it is more likely that it was a bored person who sent the complaint on a lark to see if they might cause us some problems. Which they did.

I immediately logged in to our domain registrar and updated our contact info. Some of you may be aware that Democratic Underground changed our PO Box last year, and that had not been updated on our domain name contact info. I changed the PO Box number and the Zip Code and clicked submit. Received my confirmation email about the successful update of my contact info. Domain registrar has a record of the fact that I updated our info. Problem solved.

Except the problem wasn't solved.

What I did not realize -- and what my domain registrar did not tell me -- is that the complaint was about the Democratic Underground PHONE NUMBER, not the PO Box. And, indeed, the phone number on our WHOIS information is wrong: 555-555-5555. That is the phone number that has appeared on our account for ten years, because I don't want some right-wing nut-job crank-calling me with death threats in the middle of the night.

Yep.  It's not his fault for providing false information.  It's conservatives' fault.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Doc on March 02, 2011, 12:47:18 AM
What else was posted?  I just pulled up this same information on WhoIs myself.  Nothing at all interesting.  I thought Skinner had to make all the correct changes because of the DNS problems yesterday?  He said he didn't want to put a phone number up because some right-wingers might call and threaten him or something of that sort.  As if anyone here has any care in the world to call him.  I know I don't.  lol
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Revolution on March 02, 2011, 01:21:47 AM
Well, the numbers weren't edited out in the post when I found it. That was my main deal. I just somehow lost the copy of it. It is with a trust, and more knowledgeable friend though. ;) I just intended to paste it as was, but nothing is in my outbox like I thought it should be so I could find it. :sigh:

Anyway, if you were an Admin of a forum, would you like Someone posting more than enough information for someone with nefarious purposes in mind to do some damage? Not that it's going to happen, but I sure as hell wouldn't. It would be grounds for immediate suspension in my book, and most likely a banning.

I kind of figured "Name Removed" would show up. Now I'm kinda sad.

Has $kinner gone soft? :rotf: I mean, how many offenses that were no wrong doing at all has Dick Skinner TS'd people over? In a decent, and civilized person's mind, this should be (as I said) a high crime. However, good, and decent people only have the slightest idea how a primitive's mind works. Let alone Head Primitive. :whatever:
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 02, 2011, 01:29:49 AM
Private site on a private server hosted by a private company ran through a series of privately owned computers in a network that's privately owned hooked to a privately owned trunk line. All this is governed by rules that everyone who hooks to the public part of the network follows.

So in what part of this chain does free speech apply to?

It really doesn't, except for the fact they preach it all the time on the site whenever they think theirs is bein' denied or it is something they disagree with. They're all for squelching free speech if it makes them look bad.

You'd think if you're goin' to scream free speech when you're the one in question, you'd scream free speech for those you disagree with 24/7.

Or am I just blowin' smoke outa my ass?

I didn't know we had two definitions...........
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Revolution on March 02, 2011, 01:32:49 AM
Of course. Isn''t it always?

For future reference, though, you could have posted this in Miskie's thread. No worries though. I made the same mistakes, and still do at times.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: chitownchica on March 02, 2011, 01:42:43 AM
Meh. I thought it was a possibility, but nothing more. I'm not one of the DUmors who will delve into it like Scientology, or Xultor's....not even sure what to call it anymore...


Since the thread is here, I found reply 6 to be quite interesting. WHY would you post that personal DU info, and WHY would $kinner not consider that a high crime worthy of banishment? It is unlikely someone would use that stuff for any purpose, but for gosh sakes, it is supposed to be private, isn't it?

Anyone can go out and search whois for the registration info on a domain. That info isn't secret.  I'm not sure if 555.555.5555 is the number that you saw.  Skins said it was that way for 10 years, but some DUmmie had xxx.xxx.xxxx on one of the posts. Oh well.  Who wants to call duh skimmer?
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Duke Nukum on March 02, 2011, 02:04:58 AM
The best thing about being a liberal, perhaps the only good thing, is there is always somebody else to blame.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 02, 2011, 02:30:46 AM
Anyone can go out and search whois for the registration info on a domain. That info isn't secret.  I'm not sure if 555.555.5555 is the number that you saw.  Skins said it was that way for 10 years, but some DUmmie had xxx.xxx.xxxx on one of the posts. Oh well.  Who wants to call duh skimmer?

Only someone hungrier than Bobo and thinks Tombstone really is a pizza!
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: JLO on March 02, 2011, 03:01:07 AM
That's right, folks.  He blames us -- conservatives.  Multiple times.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Skinner/396

Yep.  It's not his fault for providing false information.  It's conservatives' fault.

Heehee!, That link won't work for folks still not being able to view DU proper. 

Here's his note in the DU Panic forum at Yahoo.

Tue Mar 1, 2011 1:48 pm (PST)


Here is a longer post from Skinner. (MOST people are back in)

Whenever you type a domain name for a web site into your web browser, you
computer needs to figure out where that website is. So it sends a request to
something called a DNS server, which says something like this: "I'm looking
for www.democraticunder ground.com, could you please tell me where it is?"
And then the DNS server tells your computer where to find the site. There
are many, many DNS servers in the world that handle these requests.

For 10 years, we haven't had a problem. Your computer asks for
democraticundergrou nd.com, and some DNS server somewhere would point you to
the correct place. Until yesterday, when some of the DNS servers stopped
pointing to the correct place. Here's why.

On January 20 of this year, I received an email from our domain registrar,
indicating that they had received a complaint about our "WHOIS" information
being incorrect. In other words, someone complained that the public contact
information related to the democraticundergrou nd.com domain name was wrong.
I do not know who made the request, or why. I suppose it is possible that it
came from a concerned citizen, but I think it is more likely that it was a
bored person who sent the complaint on a lark to see if they might cause us
some problems. Which they did.

I immediately logged in to our domain registrar and updated our contact
info. Some of you may be aware that Democratic Underground changed our PO
Box last year, and that had not been updated on our domain name contact
info. I changed the PO Box number and the Zip Code and clicked submit.
Received my confirmation email about the successful update of my contact
info. Domain registrar has a record of the fact that I updated our info.
Problem solved.

Except the problem wasn't solved.

What I did not realize -- and what my domain registrar did not tell me -- is
that the complaint was about the Democratic Underground PHONE NUMBER, not
the PO Box. And, indeed, the phone number on our WHOIS information is wrong:
555-555-5555. That is the phone number that has appeared on our account for
ten years, because I don't want some right-wing nut-job crank-calling me
with death threats in the middle of the night.

Put another way: This was the insidious computer glitch commonly referred to
as "human error." I get an email about out-of-date contact info. I remember
that my PO Box recently changed. I log in and change PO Box. I completely
ignore the incorrect phone number.

I did not receive any more correspondence from my domain registrar until
yesterday morning around 11:00 am, when I got an email with the ominous
title "Name Server Update Confirmation ID", which stated that my name server
had been changed. I had not requested the Name Server Update.

So I immediately go to the domain registrar's website and try to log in, but
get a message indicating that an Admin has blocked me out.

My first thought is "Holy S***. Someone's ripped off our password, logged in
to our account, gave themselves admin privileges, changed the name server,
and then blocked us out."

I immediately get on the telephone and call the domain registrar. While I'm
on hold -- for 25 minutes! -- I am frantically changing all the passwords on
all my accounts on every website I can think of.

Finally get through to a human being, start explaining my problem, and then
AT&T drops my call.

Call back, wait another 25 minutes, finally talk to a human being, who
explains that my phone number is wrong. Which is why they changed our DNS.
No "last chance" email. No "I see you changed your info but missed one
thing." They just shut it off.

I changed the phone number, and updated our DNS info. But the damage was
done.
:argh:

Even thought we had updated our DNS info, it takes a long time for the
updates to spread (or "propagate") to all the DNS servers throughout the
Internet. In fact, well after the time I corrected the DNS info, some DNS
servers had not yet received the earlier INCORRECT DNS information that was
working its way around -- let alone the correction which was way behind and
(even now) still hasn't made it to some of the darker corners of the
Internet.

They say it sometimes takes as long as 72 hours for DNS information to
propagate throughout the Internet. :(

If you are still experiencing problems, you can get around by setting your
computer to use a public DNS server. Some instructions are available here
<http://theos. in/windows- xp/free-fast- public-dns- server-list> . Google has
not been working for me, but OpenDNS has:

208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

If anyone else has any tips, feel free to post them in this thread.

Thank you for your patience and understanding. I apologize for the screw-up.

David Allen
DU Administrator
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 02, 2011, 03:18:26 AM
Could have been the FBI Sklns, seein' as how your minions call for the fall of our government on a daily basis, asshat!

Maybe ya oughta call up the Department of Home Security and set them straight! Hahahahahaha!!!
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 02, 2011, 06:43:46 AM
Skins "explains" the problem ...they wouldn't buy the old "The check is in the mail" line.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: franksolich on March 02, 2011, 06:59:36 AM
Skins "explains" the problem ...they wouldn't buy the old "The check is in the mail" line.

I'm sure it's a pie in my fellow alum's face.

Has anyone else managed to row ashore Skins's island?  I haven't.

Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: franksolich on March 02, 2011, 07:15:37 AM
You know, I haven't checked, but I'm starting to wonder if someone we all know had a hand in this.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 02, 2011, 07:50:47 AM
OK, so I was half-ass listening to the radio news a few minutes ago. Said some people suffered a loss of service yesterday due to...something-R-other...so maybe Skinner is ligit.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: franksolich on March 02, 2011, 07:58:19 AM
OK, so I was half-ass listening to the radio news a few minutes ago. Said some people suffered a loss of service yesterday due to...something-R-other...so maybe Skinner is ligit.

I heard it as "B"-something.  I think there was a "C" in it too, but my hearing's nonexistent.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on March 02, 2011, 08:13:01 AM
You know, I haven't checked, but I'm starting to wonder if someone we all know had a hand in this.

Crockspot from beyond the grave?  :-)
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: franksolich on March 02, 2011, 08:16:23 AM
Crockspot from beyond the grave?  :-)

No, although it does seem to me the word ended in a "t."

But not the Eternal Crockspot.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 02, 2011, 08:23:07 AM
No, although it does seem to me the word ended in a "t."

But not the Eternal Crockspot.

I think he would have the smarts for it.... but....I don't know if he would do it or not.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: franksolich on March 02, 2011, 08:28:41 AM
I think he would have the smarts for it.... but....I don't know if he would do it or not.

Of course he has more than enough smarts for it.

He's also well-known for being a principled and ethical person.

So yeah, he'd do it. 
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: franksolich on March 02, 2011, 09:51:54 AM
By the way folks, it appears nothing unethical happened here; no laws were broken, Skins's island wasn't hacked, no one launched a "denial of service" artillery-barrage.

Data about a domain is supposed to be accurate and up-to-date.

My fellow alum got into trouble because he didn't keep the information current, that's all.

Someone reported him, as any law-abiding citizen would do.

I have my suspect, based upon conversations with this individual in the past--I'm damned sure it's who I think it is, but there remains a small sliver of doubt, a small opening that is immediately filled in by the Pitcairn Islanders.

The combined cerebral capabilities of all the inhabitants of Pitcairn Island doesn't add up to that of my suspect, but it's higher than the combined cerebral capabilities of the whole of Skins's island.

Primitives of course are always demanding that Republicans and conservatives follow the letter of the law, and someone obviously thought what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and so Dems, liberals, and primitives should also comply with the law.

My fellow alum doesn't see anything wrong with franksolich's ratting on primitives who violate his rules for Skins's island, and the same holds true here; when someone breaks a law, or a rule, he should be ratted on.

Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Celtic Rose on March 02, 2011, 10:59:02 AM
By the way folks, it appears nothing unethical happened here; no laws were broken, Skins's island wasn't hacked, no one launched a "denial of service" artillery-barrage.

Data about a domain is supposed to be accurate and up-to-date.

My fellow alum got into trouble because he didn't keep the information current, that's all.

Someone reported him, as any law-abiding citizen would do.

I have my suspect, based upon conversations with this individual in the past--I'm damned sure it's who I think it is, but there remains a small sliver of doubt, a small opening that is immediately filled in by the Pitcairn Islanders.

The combined cerebral capabilities of all the inhabitants of Pitcairn Island doesn't add up to that of my suspect, but it's higher than the combined cerebral capabilities of the whole of Skins's island.

Primitives of course are always demanding that Republicans and conservatives follow the letter of the law, and someone obviously thought what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and so Dems, liberals, and primitives should also comply with the law.

My fellow alum doesn't see anything wrong with franksolich's ratting on primitives who violate his rules for Skins's island, and the same holds true here; when someone breaks a law, or a rule, he should be ratted on.



If he really had 555-555-5555 listed as his phone number, it could have even been something as simple as an internal audit looking for obviously false information, and it sounds like they gave him a full month to resolve the issue if he got the notice on 1/20/2011. 
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: thelaughingman on March 02, 2011, 12:07:23 PM
If he really had 555-555-5555 listed as his phone number, it could have even been something as simple as an internal audit looking for obviously false information, and it sounds like they gave him a full month to resolve the issue if he got the notice on 1/20/2011. 

Never attribute to external causes that which can be explained by your own incompetence.

Of course, these are liberals we're talking about here.  They think they're perfect, so every problem they encounter is due to external causes.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 02, 2011, 12:19:33 PM
Never attribute to external causes that which can be explained by your own incompetence.

Of course, these are liberals we're talking about here.  They think they're perfect, so every problem they encounter is due to external causes.

Is yer handle from Ghost in the Shell? Isn't there a hacker on that show who eludes the authorities?

Just sayin.......
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: miskie on March 02, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
What amuses me to no end is that every internet registrar offers a low-cost anonymity service - If The technically-minded trio that runs the island had any common sense between them, they would have made use of that service long ago, preventing this entire fiasco.

Gee them libruls is so much smotta than us neandathal rethugs. 
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: miskie on March 02, 2011, 05:24:16 PM
Crockspot from beyond the grave?  :-)

Where has Crockspot been ? Haven seen a post from him in months...


Edit : Never mind - I found the thread :(  I can't believe I somehow missed this - Godspeed.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: PatriotGame on March 02, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
Where has Crockspot been ? Haven seen a post from him in months...
Erm...he's dead...Jim.

Seriously, he died of a heart attack back in January:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,54726.0.html
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: miskie on March 02, 2011, 05:34:10 PM
Erm...he's dead...Jim.

Seriously, he died of a heart attack back in January:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,54726.0.html

Yeah, I just found the thread - I'm stunned I missed this.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: PatriotGame on March 02, 2011, 05:35:38 PM
Yeah, I just found the thread - I'm stunned I missed this.
Yeah...we all are worse off due to his passing...
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: thundley4 on March 02, 2011, 05:35:49 PM
Erm...he's dead...Jim.

Seriously, he died of a heart attack back in January:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,54726.0.html

I'm sorry, but that gave me a chuckle, and I'm sure Crockspot would understand.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: PatriotGame on March 02, 2011, 05:37:45 PM
I'm sorry, but that gave me a chuckle, and I'm sure Crockspot would understand.
As was intended...lord knows I could never one-up the man.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 02, 2011, 05:48:58 PM
Seems to me this boondoggle should cook DUmmy Elad's enigmatic goose. Will Simmer allow his flunkies to be as incompetent as his DUmpmonkeys?
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 02, 2011, 06:58:52 PM
Seems to me this boondoggle should cook DUmmy Elad's enigmatic goose. Will Simmer allow his flunkies to be as incompetent as his DUmpmonkeys?

Sure, because by his own admission, he's the one who ****ed up! Whoda thunk ya can't get away with a phone number of "555-555-5555"? Gee, I wonder why the registrar took offense?

Now he wants to blame it on us or some other conservative site like ours! What a *****!

Ya hear that Skins, you're a low life wienie! Ya won't find us slackin' off and blamin' it on you putzes! We actually take responsibility for our own actions!
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Revolution on March 02, 2011, 07:21:09 PM
867-5309 would have been a better fake number. Just don't forget to add the area code, Elad.  :lmao:
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: franksolich on March 02, 2011, 07:35:55 PM
867-5309 would have been a better fake number. Just don't forget to add the area code, Elad.  :lmao:

I'm still taking umbrage at my fellow alum's gratuitous insult, where he said he didn't want to use the real telephone number of the executive offices of Skins's island because he might be bothered by "right-wing" cranks.

Uh, I think a more-legitimate fear would be that of being bothered 24/7/365 by primitives calling to whine about this or that.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: miskie on March 02, 2011, 08:07:48 PM
I'm still taking umbrage at my fellow alum's gratuitous insult, where he said he didn't want to use the real telephone number of the executive offices of Skins's island because he might be bothered by "right-wing" cranks.

Uh, I think a more-legitimate fear would be that of being bothered 24/7/365 by primitives calling to whine about this or that.

Honestly, it doesn't happen - A little digging will expose all of my details to anyone interested - including phone number, and I have never been harassed. Its all been out there for a decade. So, I tend to agree, Skins was concerned about being harassed via phone by primitives, especially ones who have been recently exiled from the island - not 'right-wing cranks'.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Chris_ on March 02, 2011, 08:11:51 PM
If Skinner is in charge of herding the primitives and elad is in charge of the domain/registry/website information (which he seems to be doing a poor job of), what does the other one do?

I think the phone number we set up for CC automatically goes to an answering machine.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: PatriotGame on March 02, 2011, 08:44:19 PM
867-5309 would have been a better fake number. Just don't forget to add the area code, Elad.  :lmao:
Jenny...


I dated a Jenny four days outta high school back in 1978...true blond all the way... :-)

"I got your number...I need to make you mine..."
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Chris_ on March 02, 2011, 08:46:53 PM
I dated a Jenny.  She was a wreck.

Haven't dated one since then.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: franksolich on March 02, 2011, 09:32:29 PM
If Skinner is in charge of herding the primitives and elad is in charge of the domain/registry/website information (which he seems to be doing a poor job of), what does the other one do?

Lord Marblehead EarlG?

You got me; he was the one who approved Doug's stupid ex-wife's "fund-raiser" for the late red round one six years ago; Skins and Elad were out to lunch at the time.

I don't think Lord Marblehead's been left alone, unsupervised, in the office since then.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 02, 2011, 11:41:10 PM
I dated a Jenny.  She was a wreck.

Haven't dated one since then.

My sister is a Jenny.  Best to stay far away from that mental case.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: thundley4 on March 03, 2011, 02:26:20 AM
Maybe Kinner was afraid of one of the Koch brothers calling him.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 03, 2011, 12:17:20 PM
I dated a Jenny.  She was a wreck.

Haven't dated one since then.

I've got a Jenny that could take real good care of ya! Course she can be an "ass" sometimes!
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: DefiantSix on March 03, 2011, 12:23:24 PM
I've got a Jenny that could take real good care of ya! Course she can be an "ass" sometimes!

I hear she sounds a lot like your typical Dhimmi'Rat though:  always braying endlessly about stuff on which she's entirely clueless.  That could be a real turn off.  :-)
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on March 03, 2011, 12:29:59 PM
I dated a Jenny.  She was a wreck.

Haven't dated one since then.

I married one.  That worked out well.  :whatever:

 :-)
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 03, 2011, 01:12:55 PM
I hear she sounds a lot like your typical Dhimmi'Rat though:  always braying endlessly about stuff on which she's entirely clueless.  That could be a real turn off.  :-)

Actually, she's pretty conservative. If ya ain't hung like horse, she don't want anything to do with ya!
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 03, 2011, 01:37:41 PM
Actually, she's pretty conservative. If ya ain't hung like horse, she don't want anything to do with ya!

Sounds like your Jenny is the she-mule variety.

 :-)
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 03, 2011, 02:53:28 PM
Sounds like your Jenny is the she-mule variety.

 :-)

Naw, but I do have one of the "Butt Sisters", if that's more to yer likin'! Her name's "Suzie", ya know, "Bertha's" sister!
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: miskie on March 03, 2011, 03:17:58 PM
Lord Marblehead EarlG?

You got me; he was the one who approved Doug's stupid ex-wife's "fund-raiser" for the late red round one six years ago; Skins and Elad were out to lunch at the time.

I don't think Lord Marblehead's been left alone, unsupervised, in the office since then.

I think Lord Marblehead's only purpose is to give Skin's Island a 'continental' flavor.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: Celtic Rose on March 03, 2011, 03:35:31 PM
My sister is a Jenny.  Best to stay far away from that mental case.

People call me Jennifer on a somewhat regular basis, because apparently my real name is similar to it  :whatever:
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: franksolich on March 03, 2011, 04:28:12 PM
I think Lord Marblehead's only purpose is to give Skin's Island a 'continental' flavor.

That could very well be, given how being "euro" is cool, hip, trendy, with it, among Dems, liberals, and primitives.

Window-dressing; it's certainly not because of any cerebral capacities Lord Marblehead has.
Title: Re: Skins "explains" the problem
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 03, 2011, 06:50:48 PM
. . . it's certainly not because of any cerebral capacities Lord Marblehead has.

I think Lord Marblehead's moniker sums up "any cerebral capacities" he has.