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Current Events => Political Ammunition => Global Warming, Its Myths and Its Truths => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 01, 2011, 11:43:50 AM
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San Francisco's big push for low-flow toilets has turned into a multimillion-dollar plumbing stink.
Skimping on toilet water has resulted in more sludge backing up inside the sewer pipes, said Tyrone Jue, spokesman for the city Public Utilities Commission. That has created a rotten-egg stench near AT&T Park and elsewhere, especially during the dry summer months.
The city has already spent $100 million over the past five years to upgrade its sewer system and sewage plants, in part to combat the odor problem.
Now officials are stocking up on a $14 million, three-year supply of highly concentrated sodium hypochlorite - better known as bleach - to act as an odor eater and to disinfect the city's treated water before it's dumped into the bay. It will also be used to sanitize drinking water.
That translates into 8.5 million pounds of bleach either being poured down city drains or into the drinking water supply every year.
Not everybody thinks it's a good idea.
A Don't Bleach Our Bay alert has just gone out from eco-blogger Adam Lowry who argues the city would be much better off using a disinfectant like hydrogen peroxide - or better yet, a solution that would naturally break down the bacteria.
As for whether the supposedly environmentally friendly, low-flow toilets are worth the trouble? Well, according to Jue, they have helped trim San Francisco's annual water consumption by about 20 million gallons.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/02/28/BAVP1HUSUD.DTL
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reduces annual water consumption by about 20 million gallons....for a city that size...it's mere drop in the bucket. All that extra flushing to get $*it to go down negated any water savings.
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reduces annual water consumption by about 20 million gallons....for a city that size...it's mere drop in the bucket. All that extra flushing to get $*it to go down negated any water savings.
This is a big problem, has been for over 200 years, how to treat sewage that comes from a couple million people.
What is in the sewage today we did not have 50+ years ago,--- drugs of all kinds and diseases we did not have back then -----
Tell you the truth I think that because of the huge size of the offal put out by those 10 ton dinosaurs is what led to their demise. Imagine the amount of methane in the air next to a volcano, a lightening strike to an area full of methane----Boom.
I have owned Rotties and can tell you just that one dog in a year had to have put out over 100 pounds + of droppings. Not like horse or cow offal that can be used to fertilise the land, this carnivore animal or human stuff is unless someone finds a method to make it usefull and is good for nothing.
We who have septic tanks must baby the suckers, no bleach and expensive additives added to keep the Bactria working. Do you know the cost to get a honey waggon to pump out a septic tank, for a house of 4 people???
Few people even notice city sewage, just get a bill with the water used bill. Today in my area we had a problem with a sewage plant that lost thousands of wafers that were suppose to soak up the bacteria. The disks went into the Atlantic and spread for 30+ miles up the coast. Hell of a mess these wafers are full of God knows what and are coming ashore on our beaches by the hundreds.
Big problem for civilisation is what to do with our offal, garbage, there has got to be a better way to dispose of our shit.
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We who have septic tanks must baby the suckers, no bleach and expensive additives added to keep the Bactria working. Do you know the cost to get a honey waggon to pump out a septic tank, for a house of 4 people???
Ya, $180.00 every 5 years. :thatsright: