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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on February 24, 2011, 01:48:07 PM
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kpete (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-24-11 02:27 PM
Original message
wtf is this?
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5140/5474519766_914b81eeb2.jpg)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x499513
no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-24-11 02:29 PM
Response to Original message
1. Propaganda employing the logical fallacies of appealing to the emotions and
begging the question.
RZM (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-24-11 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #2
11. I think this is the very defintiion of 'pulling the race card'
at least in a pejorative sense. Race can and should be brought up in certain situations, but I think when one injects race into a discussion where it doesn't necessarily belong, they are open to accusations of improper 'race carding' and this is a good example of that. It's a rather feeble attempt to imply that pro-choice white people are partly motivated by a desire to limit the African American births and part of a broader effort appeal to anti-abortion sentiment within the African-American community. It's not the first time pro-life groups have used race-based appeals, though from what I can tell this type of thing is becoming more common, which might be a sign of desperation.
DUmmies, please explain why most Planned Parenthood centers are in poor and minority areas? Margaret Sanger believed in eugenics and she founded PP just for that purpose.
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Better yet. Which race has seen a huge increase in abortions since Roe. Vs.Wade became law?
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kpete (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-24-11 02:27 PM
Original message
wtf is this?
Speaking troof to power?
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Oh wow! if that's not the truth.
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59.8% of pregnant blacks in NYNY were aborted.
I think truth still is a complete defense but in the time of Obama it may not be.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=7883827
Suck it DUches
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We have a Planned Parenthood located a few blocks from our home. While this side of town is not "poor", we do have a lot of 'minorities' who live in this community. It's mostly Hispanic and black families. We had a PP about six blocks from my parent's house, but they ended up shutting down a year after they opened.
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DUmmies won't even pull their heads outa their asses long enough to research why this is nothin' more than the failed policies their leaders enacted in order to cause this despicable truth!
Anything that goes against the hive will not stand! Truth would kill these bastards!
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59.8% of pregnant blacks in NYNY were aborted.
I think truth still is a complete defense but in the time of Obama it may not be.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=7883827
Suck it DUches
Oops: 59.8% of black pregnancies in NYNY were aborted.
Proof reading is your friend when you brain wants to go two ways.
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I doubt the DUmmies even bothered to consider that blacks abort a higher percentage of their children than any other race. Of course, I doubt they care.
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Guess the sign company caved...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/25/black-anti-abortion-billboard-taken-nyc/?test=latestnews
Life Always said in a statement that it "strongly disagrees" with Lamar's decision to remove the billboard. The organization said "the intent of the board is to call attention to the tragedy and the truth that abortion is outpacing life in the black community."
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In December, the city's health department released statistics showing 41 percent of pregnancies in the city were aborted in 2009. The rate was close to 60 percent for blacks.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/25/black-anti-abortion-billboard-taken-nyc/#ixzz1Ey4bIHEM
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Condoms are a $1...abortions are $350...so why don't they buy condoms...abortions are cheaper in the long run.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x499513
DUmmies, please explain why most Planned Parenthood centers are in poor and minority areas? Margaret Sanger believed in eugenics and she founded PP just for that purpose.
Oooo, Oooo, I know, I know, pick me, pick me.
To ease the Malthusian dilemma of having too many brown bodies to feed. :-)
Over population and world starvation, the fore runner to anthropogenic global warming.
Abortion aids Aids don't ya know, after all who is the second largest group ravaged by Aids?? It is all part of the master plan to put the primitives back in charge of teh cave. Agrarian reform don't ya know, trouble is they started too soon with the magic mushrooms. :stoner:
(http://www.bobsokol.com/PrimitivePete/pp2.jpg)
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"Race can and should be brought up in certain situations, but I think when one injects race into a discussion where it doesn't necessarily belong, they are open to accusations of improper 'race carding' and this is a good example of that."
In other words, it's fine when we do it, but not fine when its turned around on us." /DUmmie
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Dear DUmmies--Even with all the violence prevalent in ANY community, it's painfully obvious that of all the children born in a given community, far more than 40 percent of them will survive to age 18, to say nothing of the first nine months.
IOW, YES, DUmmies--when a child has a 2 in 5 chance of surviving from conception to birth, that's not just tragic, it's outright genocide, no matter how you spell it.
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My view point of abortion --get ready to BS me.
From time began only the wealthy or middle class could get abortions for their girls. This was done in doctors offices and hidden from the public. The poor had to head for the back street hanger abortions, and face the consequences of bleeding to death or dieing of Septic infections.
There have all ways been good old doctors that serviced the College comunity that served the need of the students with a problem.
When the Abortion law came into fact, it was for the woman that could actually die if they carried a child to birth. The limit was first 12 weeks.
Soon this morphed to 5 months and on now to the actual birth, a post birth abortion.
Morphed now to reasons for an abortion, not the phical life of the mother but into embarrassment to family for a child from an UN wed daughter into covering up incest in the family.
What do you fellow posters think about a female carring a baby for 9 months and then have the baby killed at birth.??
Why do these females go through 9 months of pregnancy and at the last moment decide to have the baby killed.?
Now about the Doctors that are willing to take in a 9 month pregnant patient and with no or little knowledge of the patient actually kill a full born human.??
The doctor does not do this alone, there are female nurses in attendance. How far down the line of humanity have we come to woman who work in medical care stand by and watch a living baby die or left to die alone on a table or trash can???
In the long run these abortionists are not removing a clump of cells, they are killing baby's that are old enough to survive outside the womb with our technology today.
So a 13 year old wants an abortion and tells the clinic she was raped. Does the clinic call the police --Hell no.
They care nothing about how the child became pregnant, was this incest or rape---forget all that, fix her problem and send her home to perhaps come back the next year with the same problem.-- return business so to speak.
This is not a minor problem, darn I wonder when my great grand kid will in the future place me in the position we place the Germans, You knew this was going on, why did you allow it to happen.????
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The Pastor who ran the ad was interviewed by Mike Gallagher, he said for every 1,000 live births in the black community there are 1,146 abortions. He also spoke of the racism of Margaret Sanger heroine to the left.
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The Pastor who ran the ad was interviewed by Mike Gallagher, he said for every 1,000 live births in the black community there are 1,146 abortions. He also spoke of the racism of Margaret Sanger heroine to the left.
Ah, but he's a pastor, so his opinion doesn't count. He's one of those....shhhhhhhh..... Christians!
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Considering the current crop of hood rats, you'd have to say they got the wrong 60%.
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This is not a minor problem, darn I wonder when my great grand kid will in the future place me in the position we place the Germans, You knew this was going on, why did you allow it to happen.????
Yep. It will happen. Medical science has made enough progress in mapping out the development of the unborn, only idiots can truly believe they aren't people.
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Yep. It will happen. Medical science has made enough progress in mapping out the development of the unborn, only idiots can truly believe they aren't people.
MRSSMITH. When do these clumps of cells become humane???? Is there any way these cells can divide and become a rabbit????
Birth, what makes that baby a human , they are unable to communicate or understand speech or have any idea what they are now seeing.??? At birth can they sit up, walk or talk, follow instructions and reason??
Just how old are children to be to be considered a humane 6 months--18 months out side the womb.???? Can we even consider those that are teens as humane, they are still growing and maturing learning about their world ? Same as in the womb from the git go, we humans must morph slowly step by step, through many stages until we are considered old enough to make our own decisions.
For those that put science before faith, let me make this very simple, if you own a female cat and it comes home pregnant---Just what the Hell do you think your cat has in its tummy, baby mice??? When your cat expells her kittens, you know right off that these helpless lumps of fur will be a full grown CAT in 5-6 months.
Now tell me how any human can believe that a female human is not carrying a human in the early stages??? The stages we all had to go through to Maturity are many.
In and out of the womb, the stages we went through have now led us to believe that stopping a humans path to adulthood is fine and dandy, but, when do we decide our children are human?
Different cultures have time lines on this. Some put the line at when the baby gets its first tooth, others when the child can crawl about or laugh and smile.
Very evil path we are on today, the potential of the million children killed each year is to take away the potential for all life, born or unborn.
Spooky and the far flung results will lead to a parent of a 3 month old baby given the right to pay a stranger to kill the child for any reason.
I wonder just how many of us today would be alive had our parents had the right to abort us for any reason.??
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In all honesty, I believe that humans are fully human from conception, a fact that medical science obviously supports. However, there are a few years during the teen period when I'm not sure those creatures are really human, but they have the potential to grow back into humans... :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Maybe ya oughta tell us when you consider them human, Vest!
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Maybe ya oughta tell us when you consider them human, Vest!
From the instant of conception,., this is a stage in a human development.
I come from the old days when a woman was pregnant about all she knew was at the doctors office she was allowed to hear the baby's heart beat.
I was very young when I and husband got pregnant, We had been married about 6 months and as neither of us knew anything about sex or birth controll we were amazed. We thought the condom was all we needed. I was an only child and only a dozen times around new born infants in my life.
I had to go to a college town to find a book that explained the process, Mom was no help, she herself was unsure of giving advice. No mother in law as she had passed when Hubby was about 10. This was first husband not my president husband.
What a mess we sat down to read the book and look at the drawings of each stage of life and even then it was difficult to believe that I was incubating a human. We both watch as my belly grew, felt the kicks and punches of the baby, but-to us it was a miracle, no we were not stupid, we saw pregnant woman ever day, it was that this was happening to us that was so over whelming.
When the daughter was born I who seldom had played with baby dolls went home to my moms for 2 weeks to learn how to care for this child. Mom was no help so we called in HER mother to show me how to change diapers, how to breast feed and what to do and what not to do with a child.
My grand mother was old school and went against all the new wave advice, stuff like putting a new born on a schedule that suits you. Never she taught me allow a child to cry themselves to sleep, baby's cry for a reason, you cannot spoil a child this age by comforting them.
She taught me ideas of child raising that was frowned on at that time. As in for the first 3 months keep that baby close to you body at all times, allow the baby to hear your heart beat and feel your skin and smell it, get use to your voice and that of the fathers.
Keep noise levels down and do not take the baby out into the bright sun, allow the baby to slowly get use to life outside the womb. Little by little as the child ages begin to draw back from this and NEVER allow a baby to cry for more then 5 minutes. As she said people don't yell unless there is an need for help.
This was my first child and I went on to have 3 more and each time I followed her advice and still felt that this was a miracle.
Only time I actually saw a baby inside me was when I had kidney failure and an EX ray was taken of my kidney and the Ex ray tech came running into my room all excited as the film showed the baby's skull and we poured over the film, there were the baby teeth moving up into the mouth, the eye sockets and the nose soon to fill in.
With all the new technology to show a woman what is growing within her at any stage, I cannot believe that anyone would abort what they know is a humane. But then there is money to be made by equating a baby even after birth as a worthless heap of cells. got to convince the mother to put her maternal side off in a corner and reject their child.
Interesting that when one sees a pregnant woman most of the time their hands and arms are around their belly. Without any thought these woman are protecting their child, instinct no doubt about it.
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The only way to get the DUmp to give up their pro-choice argument is to give all women the right to vote for herself AND on behalf of each offspring from the moment of conception, until the "fetus" has matured to legal voting age.
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From the instant of conception,., this is a stage in a human development.
I come from the old days when a woman was pregnant about all she knew was at the doctors office she was allowed to hear the baby's heart beat.
I was very young when I and husband got pregnant, We had been married about 6 months and as neither of us knew anything about sex or birth controll we were amazed. We thought the condom was all we needed. I was an only child and only a dozen times around new born infants in my life.
I had to go to a college town to find a book that explained the process, Mom was no help, she herself was unsure of giving advice. No mother in law as she had passed when Hubby was about 10. This was first husband not my president husband.
What a mess we sat down to read the book and look at the drawings of each stage of life and even then it was difficult to believe that I was incubating a human. We both watch as my belly grew, felt the kicks and punches of the baby, but-to us it was a miracle, no we were not stupid, we saw pregnant woman ever day, it was that this was happening to us that was so over whelming.
When the daughter was born I who seldom had played with baby dolls went home to my moms for 2 weeks to learn how to care for this child. Mom was no help so we called in HER mother to show me how to change diapers, how to breast feed and what to do and what not to do with a child.
My grand mother was old school and went against all the new wave advice, stuff like putting a new born on a schedule that suits you. Never she taught me allow a child to cry themselves to sleep, baby's cry for a reason, you cannot spoil a child this age by comforting them.
She taught me ideas of child raising that was frowned on at that time. As in for the first 3 months keep that baby close to you body at all times, allow the baby to hear your heart beat and feel your skin and smell it, get use to your voice and that of the fathers.
Keep noise levels down and do not take the baby out into the bright sun, allow the baby to slowly get use to life outside the womb. Little by little as the child ages begin to draw back from this and NEVER allow a baby to cry for more then 5 minutes. As she said people don't yell unless there is an need for help.
This was my first child and I went on to have 3 more and each time I followed her advice and still felt that this was a miracle.
Only time I actually saw a baby inside me was when I had kidney failure and an EX ray was taken of my kidney and the Ex ray tech came running into my room all excited as the film showed the baby's skull and we poured over the film, there were the baby teeth moving up into the mouth, the eye sockets and the nose soon to fill in.
With all the new technology to show a woman what is growing within her at any stage, I cannot believe that anyone would abort what they know is a humane. But then there is money to be made by equating a baby even after birth as a worthless heap of cells. got to convince the mother to put her maternal side off in a corner and reject their child.
Interesting that when one sees a pregnant woman most of the time their hands and arms are around their belly. Without any thought these woman are protecting their child, instinct no doubt about it.
Please define "post birth abortion".
This I would really like to hear.