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Title: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: T-Monay820 on February 23, 2011, 05:52:12 PM
Curious what some parent's thoughts are. I don't have any problems with this approach. Kid doesn't have a sensitive ego. Quite the opposite, punk needs to learn some humility.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/tampa_mom_makes_son_stand_on_s.php
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: formerlurker on February 23, 2011, 06:10:10 PM
Honestly, positive behavior supports are the only proven method of effecting long term behavior modification.   That said, this kid is a punk and mom is doing the best she can. 

I hope it opens his eyes to what his future holds if he doesn't pull his head out of his ass.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 23, 2011, 06:16:31 PM
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Though, neither she nor the boy's father tried to help him with his homework, they grounded him, took away his cell phone, and gave him lecture after lecture to get him to raise his grades, but nothing worked.

The mother or father could have found a tutor for their son if they were unable to help. 
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: vesta111 on February 24, 2011, 12:22:06 PM
The mother or father could have found a tutor for their son if they were unable to help. 

A hair cut and clothing that fits helps in this matter.

Grab that little hoodlum by the scruff of the neck and get his hair cut, darn he looks like a sheep dog.  Make him wear clothing that fits not down to his knees and no T Shirts, a shirt with a collar, pants with a belt.

Let that kid know that as his mother is a hairdresser he will be tied up and  hair cut  ever month until he gets his grades up, no earrings or face piercings, they have to earned with a B at least in 3 subjects. Hair is not to be anyway longer then 2 inches until he puts some effort into school.  No bandannas or ball caps or other gang related symbols.

I missed the age of this Punk but curfew of 6 PM school nights and 9 pm. weekends ----

I see why now back in the old days people would lock up problem relitives in the attic.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: mamacags on February 24, 2011, 02:13:14 PM
I think this approach is awesome!  I am so glad that there are still parents who care enough about their kid to NOT be their friends.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 24, 2011, 02:51:15 PM
Sometimes teenage kids just need their asses kicked.  Unfortunately this is about as close as parents can legally go to that anymore. 
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: compaqxp on February 25, 2011, 04:20:14 PM
I think it's a bit extreme but it is nice to see a parent not trying to be their child's best friend.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: rich_t on February 25, 2011, 05:08:54 PM
Ok...

What makes a couple of you think that this kid is a punk?  Just the way he looked in the video?  I didn't see anything in that article that mentioned that he was a smartass toward his parents/teachers etc...

That said....  I wonder if this kid has always done poorly in school or if it was a recent development.  If it's the former, waiting until he is 15 to do anything about it is waiting too long.

If it's the later I'd start looking at possible drug use and start looking at who he hangs out with.

My kids are both grown and living on their own.  While I try to be their friend I am STILL their parent 1st and foremost.  If they are ****ing up, they still hear about it from me.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: formerlurker on February 25, 2011, 05:18:15 PM
Ok...

What makes a couple of you think that this kid is a punk?  Just the way he looked in the video?  I didn't see anything in that article that mentioned that he was a smartass toward his parents/teachers etc...


In fact, the last straw came when he got an F in gym class on his latest report card.

An F in gym class?   yeah, he's a punk.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: rich_t on February 25, 2011, 05:59:09 PM
In fact, the last straw came when he got an F in gym class on his latest report card.

An F in gym class?   yeah, he's a punk.

Got an F in gym class so he's a punk? 

Would he be a punk if he got an F in English class or math?

I bet if it were a clean cut white boy on that corner....




Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: Gina on February 25, 2011, 06:23:49 PM
I think this approach is awesome!  I am so glad that there are still parents who care enough about their kid to NOT be their friends.

I can agree with the tough love of it but I don't know if they actually "cared" that much

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The 33-year-old hair stylist was fed up that her 15-year-old son, James Mond III, was making his way through school with such low grades. Though, neither she nor the boy's father tried to help him with his homework, they grounded him, took away his cell phone, and gave him lecture after lecture to get him to raise his grades, but nothing worked.

My son is screwing off in school and we are trying EVERYTHING right now.  Diet, discipline, and soon a dr's visit
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: formerlurker on February 25, 2011, 06:54:43 PM
Got an F in gym class so he's a punk?  

Exactly -- unless he has significant developmental delays, all he has to do is show up, listen, and participate to get a passing grade.   F in gym usually means he is a now show, disrupts class when he is there, and does not listen or participate.  

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Would he be a punk if he got an F in English class or math?

No.

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I bet if it were a clean cut white boy on that corner....

Wow, aren't you racist.




Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: formerlurker on February 25, 2011, 06:55:32 PM
I can agree with the tough love of it but I don't know if they actually "cared" that much

My son is screwing off in school and we are trying EVERYTHING right now.  Diet, discipline, and soon a dr's visit

How old is your son Gina?
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: PatriotGame on February 25, 2011, 06:57:51 PM
BEHOLD!

The democrats have just moved their slaves from the plantations to the inner-cities.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: Gina on February 25, 2011, 06:58:28 PM
How old is your son Gina?

10
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: PatriotGame on February 25, 2011, 07:00:31 PM
I can agree with the tough love of it but I don't know if they actually "cared" that much

My son is screwing off in school and we are trying EVERYTHING right now.  Diet, discipline, and soon a dr's visit

Never failed my father nor me. Lookie how (dysfunctional) I am now.


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Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: Gina on February 25, 2011, 07:07:11 PM
Never failed my father nor me. Lookie how (dysfunctional) I am now.


(http://www.altrec.com/images/shop/detail/swatches/CRH/16311.41302_e.jpg)

BTDT, doesn't work on my son.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: PatriotGame on February 25, 2011, 07:16:39 PM
BTDT, doesn't work on my son.
Yea...I know...I wuz jest feeding you crap Gina.  I am quite confident that NO ONE other YOU and your HUSBAND knows how best to raise your children. Think, follow your hearts, love, and it will all work out!

I have a surplus of White Light and can send some if that will help!  :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: Gina on February 25, 2011, 07:19:31 PM
Yea...I know...I wuz jest feeding you crap Gina.  I am quite confident that NO ONE other YOU and your HUSBAND knows how best to raise your children. Think, follow your hearts, love, and it will all work out!

I have a surplus of White Light and can send some if that will help!  :-) :-) :-)

I wasn't offended.  I wish the belt would work on him.  It worked on mine and my brother's asses growing up.  It doesn't do anything to my son
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: formerlurker on February 25, 2011, 07:21:37 PM
I wasn't offended.  I wish the belt would work on him.  It worked on mine and my brother's asses growing up.  It doesn't do anything to my son

What are you seeing for issues?   There may be something going on.   You can email me if you want, I am the queen of SpEd (son with autism). 
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: Gina on February 25, 2011, 07:24:51 PM
What are you seeing for issues?   There may be something going on.   You can email me if you want, I am the queen of SpEd (son with autism). 

hyper
loves to draw
loves fishing
when he becomes interested in a hobby, he becomes obsessed with it but not in a bad way

only thing his teachers say is he is all over the place and a class clown. 

I think he is lazy, wants us to give him the answers and that is our fault.

I don't think he has anything like autism or asperger's or anything like that and have parent's that do have children with those conditions say he doesn't.

Right now I am having the teachers fill out forms to give to his pedi
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: thundley4 on February 25, 2011, 07:36:33 PM
hyper
loves to draw
loves fishing
when he becomes interested in a hobby, he becomes obsessed with it but not in a bad way

only thing his teachers say is he is all over the place and a class clown. 

I think he is lazy, wants us to give him the answers and that is our fault.

I don't think he has anything like autism or asperger's or anything like that and have parent's that do have children with those conditions say he doesn't.

Right now I am having the teachers fill out forms to give to his pedi

He almost sounds like I was in school, bored.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: Gina on February 25, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
He almost sounds like I was in school, bored.

Yeh, I want to say he is too smart for his own good and is bored but then again I don't like to brag about my kids that way.  He loves all things war, guns, hunting...he just hates reading and math.  He doesn't get into trouble at school except for yapping.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: formerlurker on February 25, 2011, 07:50:27 PM
hyper
loves to draw
loves fishing
when he becomes interested in a hobby, he becomes obsessed with it but not in a bad way

only thing his teachers say is he is all over the place and a class clown. 

I think he is lazy, wants us to give him the answers and that is our fault.

I don't think he has anything like autism or asperger's or anything like that and have parent's that do have children with those conditions say he doesn't.

Right now I am having the teachers fill out forms to give to his pedi

There are a lot of diagnosis he could have -- I could spew off about 3 of them from  what you wrote, but that is all speculation from someone who has never laid eyes on him.    Looks like you are getting evals done, so that is excellent.  Hopefully you will some answers soon.   

Note that the far majority of ten year old students want to be good in class.   They honestly don't like to be called out for aberrant behaviors.  If he is struggling with attending because he has some issues going on, then you will know and will know what you need to do to teach him the critical skill of self-regulation. 

Good luck with the testing.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: Gina on February 25, 2011, 07:53:48 PM
There are a lot of diagnosis he could have -- I could spew off about 3 of them from  what you wrote, but that is all speculation from someone who has never laid eyes on him.    Looks like you are getting evals done, so that is excellent.  Hopefully you will some answers soon.   

Note that the far majority of ten year old students want to be good in class.   They honestly don't like to be called out for aberrant behaviors.  If he is struggling with attending because he has some issues going on, then you will know and will know what you need to do to teach him the critical skill of self-regulation. 

Good luck with the testing.

on the poing of attending school, my son has never missed a day of school in his life.  Always gets perfect attendance at the end of the school year.  He just has a problem keeping his mind on the subject instead of goofing off.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: mamacags on February 25, 2011, 08:08:18 PM
If the subjects were presented in a way that was interesting to him it would probably help.  Like learning math by figuring out where a bomb would land or what kind of ammo you need for a certain shot.  I didn't learn any math until I was out of school and had a real world way to see it.  If I could have figured out a way to make it interesting for myself back then instead of just trying to memorize it would have helped so much!
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: seahorse513 on February 25, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
hyper
loves to draw
loves fishing
when he becomes interested in a hobby, he becomes obsessed with it but not in a bad way

only thing his teachers say is he is all over the place and a class clown. 

I think he is lazy, wants us to give him the answers and that is our fault.

I don't think he has anything like autism or asperger's or anything like that and have parent's that do have children with those conditions say he doesn't.

Right now I am having the teachers fill out forms to give to his pedi
My stepson was the same way, liked hands on activities. All I asked is that he tried his best...that's all we can really do as parents, and set a good example. I realized that not all children will be exceptionally scholastic in all subjects. I asked Michael what he wanted to be when he was older. He told me a forest ranger, so i looked it up and told him the courses he needs to be good at, the same with Amanda(stepdaughter) She wanted to be a vet. What does your son want to be when he grows up? I find at age ten, kids like alot of things that have to do with animals. You mention he likes to draw, what kinds of things does he like?? He may be just bored as Thundley mentioned.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: Alpha Mare on February 25, 2011, 09:42:04 PM
With my son it was plain boredom.  He's a fast learner and had to sit and wait until everyone else 'got it' before they moved on.  Teachers started giving him advanced work to do while he waited. Perfect solution!

Teachers can be quick to diagnose 'problems' for any child who doesn't just sit there.  One year, school got a new, young teacher.  She strongly suggested ADDH testing for damned near every boy in her classes.  Town doc decided to test her; gave some of the kids placebos, with parents permission.  Teacher gushed about their improved behavior. 
The boys didn't change, only her perception of them did.
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 25, 2011, 10:15:32 PM
I think this approach is awesome!  I am so glad that there are still parents who care enough about their kid to NOT be their friends.

I'm with you Mama, listen to what the mamby pamby counseler types have to say......

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"It's such an unfortunate strategy, and of course it's ineffective," a child development expert told the Times. "The key to motivating children is to balance responsibility with support, and balance is the important part."

Ineffective, huh? It's this kind of attitude that got the country into this shape! My Dad woulda kicked my ass! I can tell ya I'd rather have the ass kickin' than stand on a street corner tellin' everyone I was a DUmbass!

We'll see if it's ineffective.

note to mods, don't know if this site is off limits on quotes, but this quote is from the individual. not the paper per se
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: formerlurker on February 26, 2011, 06:26:09 AM
on the poing of attending school, my son has never missed a day of school in his life.  Always gets perfect attendance at the end of the school year.  He just has a problem keeping his mind on the subject instead of goofing off.

Attending = attending in class (showing critical ready and attending skills -- ready to learn, attending to instruction). 

Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: formerlurker on February 26, 2011, 06:29:28 AM
With my son it was plain boredom.  He's a fast learner and had to sit and wait until everyone else 'got it' before they moved on.  Teachers started giving him advanced work to do while he waited. Perfect solution!

Teachers can be quick to diagnose 'problems' for any child who doesn't just sit there.  One year, school got a new, young teacher.  She strongly suggested ADDH testing for damned near every boy in her classes.  Town doc decided to test her; gave some of the kids placebos, with parents permission.  Teacher gushed about their improved behavior. 
The boys didn't change, only her perception of them did.

There are absolutely mediocre and just very bad teachers, and getting a classroom of 25 students to attend is not exactly for the weak-skilled instructor.   That said, there are students who have a very difficult time attending to instruction under the best of circumstances and motivation.   Those students need to be taught self-regulation, and that is best taught absent of medication (although that is the parent's decision). 

Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: seahorse513 on February 26, 2011, 08:36:33 AM
I think it is wonderful that he will be tested, and hopefully between you and the teachers can come up with a solution to help him. The ex and I just kept Michael very active on his off school days, so he could be more focused on his school work when he was in school. Good luck Gina!!
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: Gina on February 26, 2011, 08:41:47 AM
My stepson was the same way, liked hands on activities. All I asked is that he tried his best...that's all we can really do as parents, and set a good example. I realized that not all children will be exceptionally scholastic in all subjects. I asked Michael what he wanted to be when he was older. He told me a forest ranger, so i looked it up and told him the courses he needs to be good at, the same with Amanda(stepdaughter) She wanted to be a vet. What does your son want to be when he grows up? I find at age ten, kids like alot of things that have to do with animals. You mention he likes to draw, what kinds of things does he like?? He may be just bored as Thundley mentioned.

he wants to be a paleontologist or however you spell that
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: seahorse513 on February 26, 2011, 08:57:28 AM
he wants to be a paleontologist or however you spell that
Isn't that the study of dinosaurs??
Title: Re: Tampa Mom Makes Son Stand on Street Corner For Low GPA
Post by: vesta111 on February 26, 2011, 09:46:34 AM
he wants to be a paleontologist or however you spell that

Not bad for a 10 year old to be interested in dinosaurs, most kids that age think it is cool.

I say check his peers for what the interests of his friends are.  Could be you son has no one his age to get excited about a common interest.  

Just a suggestion, can you put your son in boy scouts?????