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Interests => All Things Edible (and how to prepare them) => Topic started by: franksolich on February 22, 2011, 08:44:17 AM
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Okay, I have a really stupid question.
But remember, there's plenty of stuff in life I haven't seen.
The other day, the hippywife primitive Mrs. Alfred Packer on Skins's island mentioned she was a little bit leery of using glassware in the oven because it may explode.
She happened to mention that right when I was trying to think of a new ending for one of the "Mrs. Alfred Packer" stories here.
My mother used glassware in the oven all the time, and as far as I know, she died never having broken any of it.
I've used glassware in the oven all my adult life, and every single piece still survives, intact.
I'm not aware that glassware "explodes" (or rather, might explode) in the oven.
Has anyone ever had this happen? And if so, exactly what happened? Did it blow up all over inside the oven, did it shatter into tiny pieces, did it just break in half, or what? Did it make noise when doing so, and if so, what sort of noise? A bang? A snap? A crackle? Did it injure anybody? Did it ruin the inside of the oven?
I know, I know, it's a stupid question, but I really don't know.
This is important, because I want to have a new sort of ending to the latest saga of the Packer clan.
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I've seen non-tempered glass crack but never explode. The only time I've seen exploding glass was when I threw a sealed bottle of beer into a campfire. Steam + confined space = boom. :-)
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I put a bowl in the microwave to melt chocolate. I mistakenly thought it was tempered glass. It was not. I got it out of the microwave, and it cracked, much like an explosion, but the chocolate kept it together. A long time ago, I put tea in a pitcher, to make iced tea. I put the tea in, hot from the tea kettle, and put it in the sink where I proceeded to put water in it. It spontaneously cracked as well. Which felt like an explosion, but that's not really what it was.
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I've only ever had ONE Pyrex piece of glassware ever break. I took it out of the oven and set it on the stove and it shattered, ruining the meal. (I don't know if I set it on a hot burner or what caused it) Other than that, as long as one uses Pyrex type glassware, they're relatively safe.
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Okay, I have a really stupid question.
But remember, there's plenty of stuff in life I haven't seen.
The other day, the hippywife primitive Mrs. Alfred Packer on Skins's island mentioned she was a little bit leery of using glassware in the oven because it may explode.
She happened to mention that right when I was trying to think of a new ending for one of the "Mrs. Alfred Packer" stories here.
My mother used glassware in the oven all the time, and as far as I know, she died never having broken any of it.
I've used glassware in the oven all my adult life, and every single piece still survives, intact.
I'm not aware that glassware "explodes" (or rather, might explode) in the oven.
Has anyone ever had this happen? And if so, exactly what happened? Did it blow up all over inside the oven, did it shatter into tiny pieces, did it just break in half, or what? Did it make noise when doing so, and if so, what sort of noise? A bang? A snap? A crackle? Did it injure anybody? Did it ruin the inside of the oven?
I know, I know, it's a stupid question, but I really don't know.
This is important, because I want to have a new sort of ending to the latest saga of the Packer clan.
I have about half and half when it comes to ovenware, half glass and the other half steel pans, I like using the glass better and have never had a problem with it breaking, but I don't use a high temperature when I'm using it, I try not to go over 400 degrees.
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This modern pyrex bakeware that you can buy anywhere is fine for ovens, never had a problem with casseroles, etc.
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When I got my first apartment in the 2nd year of college, I scoured garage sales for things to furnish it. I picked up an old saucepan made of glass. I assumed it could be used as a saucepan. Once, I put some soup or something in it, and placed it on the electric burner. After a bit, it started ticking ominously, like a bomb. All of a sudden, it did explode, sending glass and soup all over the place. The glass pieces were not sharp, but rounded, such as you would get with a car window. I was pretty shaken, but not hit by the shrapnel.
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There was a big deal about glass baking dishes back before Christmas, about them cracking and or exploding.
Here's the Snopes thing on it....
http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/pyrex.asp
One of the things I saw about it on tv was to make sure that you aren't using one that's damaged, prior to using it. If you have any with significant chips in it, you might want to replace it.
I use Pyrex all the time, mostly in the oven. I use "dark" metalware for baking cakes, brownies,cookies, bread, muffins, and Pyrex for anything else.
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Pyrex or Anchor Hocking or sometimes Corelle, if it was oven proof. I have never had any glassware explode.
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i have never seen any glassware explode in the oven, but I have seen it explode on hot burners. Very fast changes of temperature, as with a hot burner, or putting cold water on hot glass, or boiling water on cold glass, are the only times I've seen any problem.
The glass saucepans that are made to be used as saucepans work fine on ceramic top stoves, but I've never tried them on a gas stove or even my standard electric.
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When I got my first apartment in the 2nd year of college, I scoured garage sales for things to furnish it. I picked up an old saucepan made of glass. I assumed it could be used as a saucepan. Once, I put some soup or something in it, and placed it on the electric burner. After a bit, it started ticking ominously, like a bomb. All of a sudden, it did explode, sending glass and soup all over the place. The glass pieces were not sharp, but rounded, such as you would get with a car window. I was pretty shaken, but not hit by the shrapnel.
In the interests of literary excellence and credibility, madam--remember, I'm working on another story of the Packer clan--could such a phenomenon have been fatal to several persons?
I need to be credible, to tell a believable story.
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In the interests of literary excellence and credibility, madam--remember, I'm working on another story of the Packer clan--could such a phenomenon have been fatal to several persons?
I need to be credible, to tell a believable story.
The story could revolve around a glass pressure cooker. On a gas range.
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In the interests of literary excellence and credibility, madam--remember, I'm working on another story of the Packer clan--could such a phenomenon have been fatal to several persons?
I need to be credible, to tell a believable story.
Don't know that it was fatal to anyone, but in the reports I saw back before holidays....it was reported some very severe burns and lacerations.
Depending on what's in the casserole, and how long and what temp the food was cooked...it could really burn. I make creme brulee, and had the brown sugar topping catch on fire when I was melting it. Stupidly, very stupidly, I poked at it with my fingertip. Not only did it melt the polish, but some of the melted sugar went under the nail. I said lots of very nasty words as my fingertip very quickly blistered up! High sugar, butter or fat content will burn skin quite easily. Potatoes also really hold heat.
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Pyrex, Corningware, etc. is fine in the oven. I imagine it MIGHT break if you used it for broiling, but it wouldn't explode, you'd just have a ruined meal and a mess to clean up, and it's usually used for casseroles and the like anyway.
On a stovetop is another story. My mom had a clear pyrex coffeepot that she used for years on a gas stove, back when people boiled coffee, but I've seen the glass saucepans pop. I guess they made better pyrex in her era.
It's probably one of the safest things you can bake in. I'm seeing articles saying that aluminum, teflon coatings and the like might be toxic...yeah, we've all used these things and we're still here, but it could have a cumulative effect.
If in doubt, go with stainless or cast iron I guess.
As far as the story goes, I've never seen a glass pressure cooker. That's kinda askin' for trouble... :p Do they exist? And is Mrs. Packer crazy enough to use one?
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I remember one of the OLD TV shows, Mr. Peepers, during which Rex Marshall, the host and hawker for advertiser Maxwell Coffee, pouring steaming hot coffee into a clear coffee mug and it shattered in his hands. He was left holding onto the cup handle.
:rotf: :lmao:
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It may be better to go with a story on pressure cookers, these have some specular explosions that we can most of us give you child hood storeys of.