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Title: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 20, 2011, 07:38:27 PM
Not sure if you all find this racist or not?  I don't think I've ever heard the word "Buckwheat" used as a racist term.  To me, Buckwheat was the little boy on Little Rascals.

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A Broadview Heights woman is accusing state Rep. Robert F. Hagan of using a term that some believe has a racist connotation on a social networking site.

Hagan, D-60th, of Youngstown, used the term “buckwheat” in a Facebook posting Saturday.

This is what was said.  Screen shots are at the site.

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Then Hagan writes, “I ran against Traficant buckwheat ... so take your personal shots, and shove them where the sun don’t shine.”

My husband said his mom used to call him "buckwheat" when he would do something stupid when he was younger.


http://www.vindy.com/news/2011/feb/20/facebook-remark-wasn8217t-racist-hagan-s/
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Thor on February 20, 2011, 07:44:54 PM
To call someone, "Buckwheat" was a common expression when I was young. Sometime in the 70s, people bastardized the meaning and threw racial connotations into the meaning.
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: olde north church on February 20, 2011, 08:07:20 PM
Not a racial connotation when I was teen in the 70s
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: T-Monay820 on February 20, 2011, 08:28:13 PM
Haven't seen the character in years, but from what I recall of him, I've seen it used as derogatory towards black individuals based on appearance/conduct whether its the hair or clothing, or speech. I've never seen it used towards a white person.
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Boudicca on February 20, 2011, 09:19:59 PM
Holy Cow, it's getting ridiculous out there as to what constitutes a racial slur. :whatever:
For me, Buckwheat means buckwheat pancakes.  Now, I am sure some up to date liberal can enlighten me as to why the word pancake is a racial slur.  Because, if there's one thing I'm certain of, some looney tunes out there will have that idea. :argh:
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Airwolf on February 20, 2011, 10:59:55 PM
I have used the name buckwheat for years but that s because of a charater on the old tv show 'Wiseguy" named Roger used it all the time. He worked for Susan and Mel Proffitt and he was an undercover CIA operator that was working for both the CIA and Mel Proffitt.

When the star of the show was injured he even filled in Vinnie for the DOJ. You'll hear him call Vinnie Buckwheat at 6:07 in this clip.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z45kVYdt_o0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Thor on February 20, 2011, 11:53:31 PM
Haven't seen the character in years, but from what I recall of him, I've seen it used as derogatory towards black individuals based on appearance/conduct whether its the hair or clothing, or speech. I've never seen it used towards a white person.

Get out and poke around rural Texas. One of the most common phrases that used to be said when I was coming up was, "No shit, Buckwheat". Another was, "Listen here, Buckwheat...". I've used it and seen it used towards white folks. I suppose it's a nice way of saying, "Dumbass", I can't say for sure. Of course, that was some 36 years ago. Possibly it was used as a disparaging term because buckwheat pancakes are pretty much unrefined. :clueless:

Of course, a white person can't even refer to a "black hole" in a scientific or fiscal manner without some black idiot moron getting all up in arms.
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: thundley4 on February 21, 2011, 01:48:23 AM
I think the problem comes from the fact that he didn't use the term until he replied to a black person. If he had been calling others that term, then it might be different.  IIRC, some people even complained about Eddie Murphy playing Buckwheat on Saturday Night Live.
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Gina on February 21, 2011, 07:01:44 AM
I think it's always been used in a derogatory way from where I am from.
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: TexasCop on February 21, 2011, 08:20:12 AM
It was funny in the 80's when Eddie Murphy was Buckwheat on SNL and it's funny today.   :lmao:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wo1-sI7MOQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Karin on February 21, 2011, 08:26:01 AM
A know a cat named Buckwheat.

Way back when, when Jesse Jackson tried to run for president, I was a mush-headed college student or something.  My parents (conservative), acquired a black cat at the time, and named him Jesse.  I was sooooo embarrased, I thought it was so racist.  Why?  I have no idea. 
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Gina on February 21, 2011, 08:33:37 AM
A know a cat named Buckwheat.

Way back when, when Jesse Jackson tried to run for president, I was a mush-headed college student or something.  My parents (conservative), acquired a black cat at the time, and named him Jesse.  I was sooooo embarrased, I thought it was so racist.  Why?  I have no idea. 
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

We had this dog.  Really stupid dog and we named him Retardo Montelban. It was so embarrassing yelling his name out "RETARDO!, COME HERE BOY!"  :lmao:
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 21, 2011, 09:12:51 AM
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

We had this dog.  Really stupid dog and we named him Retardo Montelban. It was so embarrassing yelling his name out "RETARDO!, COME HERE BOY!"  :lmao:

My great uncle had a friend that had a black retriever named the "N" word....you should have seen the commotion he sometimes caused when calling his dog.... :lmao:
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Airwolf on February 21, 2011, 10:01:19 AM
During WW II, the squadron commander of an RAF bomber unit had a black dog named the N word but over there and during that time the word didn't mean what it does here. Some people need to learn that if you let someone offend you in that way then maybe you should just chug on over to namby pamby land were maybe they can find some selfconfidence for you. 
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Thor on February 21, 2011, 10:05:06 AM
During WW II, the squadron commander of an RAF bomber unit had a black dog named the N word but over there and during that time the word didn't mean what it does here. Some people need to learn that if you let someone offend you in that way then maybe you should just chug on over to namby pamby land were maybe they can find some self confidence for you. 

I just LOVE that commercial....

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgiUm4lQig[/youtube]
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: IassaFTots on February 21, 2011, 12:13:37 PM
I still call people buckwheat. 
I call my car Whitey.  Because it's white.
My brother had a black cat named Desmond, after Desmond Tutu. 
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 21, 2011, 03:13:49 PM
I still call people buckwheat. 
I call my car Whitey.  Because it's white.
My brother had a black cat named Desmond, after Desmond Tutu. 

:rotf:

Love it.

I sometimes call my black kitty, "Blackie Chan"  but her real name is Kenzie.
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: IassaFTots on February 21, 2011, 03:16:32 PM
:rotf:

Love it.

I sometimes call my black kitty, "Blackie Chan"  but her real name is Kenzie.

Blackie Chan?  Hilarious!   :rotf:

My other car I call Greenie, and I used to have a blue car named Bluey.  I don't really get into naming cars, because I think that is pretty lame, but people kept asking me what I named my car   :mental:  so that is what I did.  I do get a lot of fun out of calling out my car as whitey though.  I must admit.   :-)

Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: vesta111 on February 23, 2011, 02:27:46 PM
Blackie Chan?  Hilarious!   :rotf:

My other car I call Greenie, and I used to have a blue car named Bluey.  I don't really get into naming cars, because I think that is pretty lame, but people kept asking me what I named my car   :mental:  so that is what I did.  I do get a lot of fun out of calling out my car as whitey though.  I must admit.   :-)



  Hiding for the BS's I will get here.

I remember back way long ago when a black with the name Crowther would have caused a melt down to some people. Its the generation, this man is using common words he grew up hearing and I thought Buckwheat was white--silly me.
Title: Re: Was this racist? A Democrat in Ohio calls someone "Buckwheat"
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 23, 2011, 02:40:44 PM
  Hiding for the BS's I will get here.

I remember back way long ago when a black with the name Crowther would have caused a melt down to some people. Its the generation, this man is using common words he grew up hearing and I thought Buckwheat was white--silly me.

I thought he was black.  Wasn't he the "I gotta pickle" kid?  It's been forever since I've seen the movie.