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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on February 18, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-18-11 10:04 AM
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Firefighter refused call to Giffords shooting (*&&&^&*%%$$%$% right-wing $%#&&##**) Updated at 4:35 AM
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 10:08 AM by DainBramaged
A veteran firefighter refused to respond to last month's deadly shooting spree that left Rep. Gabrielle Giffords wounded because he had different political views than his colleagues and "did not want to be part of it," according to internal city memos.
Mark Ekstrum's insubordination may have delayed his unit's response because firefighters had to stop at another station to pick up a replacement for him, the Arizona Daily Star reported.
While the crew was not among the first called to the supermarket where six people were killed and 13 others wounded, a memo from Ekstrum's supervisor said his actions caused "confusion and delay" during the emergency.
Ekstrum's team, which is specially trained to handle large medical emergencies, was dispatched to assist 90 minutes after the Jan. 8 shooting.
The 28-year veteran of the Tucson Fire Department retired two days later while his supervisors were still considering how to discipline him, according to the Star, which obtained the memos about the incident through a public records request.
Capt. Ben Williams wrote in a report that when Ekstrum first said he would not go on the call, "he mentioned something about 'political bantering' and he did not want to be part of it."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-18-firefigh...
Please read the article, it's sickening.
Had to bring this over. My God what assholes these DUmmies are. How the hell do we know if the fire fighter was right wing?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x446736
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There were at least three threads about this, and in one of them the firefighter was quoted as saying that he voted for Giffords. Of course the DUmmies claimed that he was lying.
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"The requested (USA) document was not found"
Was someone able to discern from the article that he was a leftist?
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"The requested (USA) document was not found"
Was someone able to discern from the article that he was a leftist?
From the very bottom.
Ekstrum also said in the statement that he had no problem with Giffords and even voted for her in the last election.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-18-firefighter-giffords-dispatch_N.htm
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That is TERRIBLE.
Why everyone knows that only teachers can opt out of their jobs for three days.
Oh lord pot calling.
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If it had been a Repub these filthy pricks would be makin' the guy a hero for standin' up for his principals!
Do ya think when they look in a mirror there's any reflection? I don't see how there could be! I'd never be able to look at myself if I was infected with ½ this much hypocrisy!
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If it had been a Repub these filthy pricks would be makin' the guy a hero for standin' up for his principals!
Do ya think when they look in a mirror there's any reflection? I don't see how there could be! I'd never be able to look at myself if I was infected with ½ this much hypocrisy!
The guy voted for Giffords.....doubtful he's a Republican.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-18-firefighter-giffords-dispatch_N.htm
Read the comments.
Most people who commented obviously didn't read the entire article.
Good thing the guy's station was not a "first responder" since the Capt took the time to talk to him. ::)
Aren't police and firefighters supposed to respond to a distress call regardless of what the situation is?
If his refusal to respond was not because he didn't like Giffords, was it because he was afraid of getting hurt himself? It's supposed to be a good thing to have a certain amount of fear, as no fear can make a person reckless, but if a first-responder is too afraid to respond to a mass casualty situation, regardless of the casualty cause...they need to find a new line of work.
If that's the case....then it's a good thing he quickly resigned.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-18-11 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #46
52. No need to fire him. When he refused to respond to a call
he effectively quit. Just replace his ass.
Sorry as a cop or a firefighter you respond to ALL TAXPAYER CALLS, not just the ones who have the same political ideology.
So I guess all the Democrat Wisconsin state legislators have "effectively quit"? Good, they can start the process of special elections to replace them.
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The guy voted for Giffords.....doubtful he's a Republican.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-18-firefighter-giffords-dispatch_N.htm
Read the comments.
Most people who commented obviously didn't read the entire article.
Good thing the guy's station was not a "first responder" since the Capt took the time to talk to him. ::)
Aren't police and firefighters supposed to respond to a distress call regardless of what the situation is?
If his refusal to respond was not because he didn't like Giffords, was it because he was afraid of getting hurt himself? It's supposed to be a good thing to have a certain amount of fear, as no fear can make a person reckless, but if a first-responder is too afraid to respond to a mass casualty situation, regardless of the casualty cause...they need to find a new line of work.
If that's the case....then it's a good thing he quickly resigned.
I should have clarified. If the politician who got shot had been a Repub...........
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I should have clarified. If the politician who got shot had been a Repub...........
Yeah, that kind of confused me. :???:
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Yeah, that kind of confused me. :???:
Ah, well, slap me and get it over with. hehehehehehehehe! I strive for perfection, but even I fall down once in a while! lol! Just ask "Toots"! She reads the board but refuses to get involved. says she's too busy keepin' me in line!
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This exchange is legendary:
Ptah
2. Right wing?
DainBramaged
9. Chicken wings
Ptah
11. Where did you get the idea he is right wing?
DainBramaged
13. Do you think that Gabriel Gifford's was bantering?
Ptah
14. No, I do not think Giffords was bantering.
Where did you get the idea he is right wing?
DainBramaged
15. Why shouldn't I? and why are you questioning me?
Ptah
16. I am wondering where you got the idea he is right wing.
I am trying to have a conversation with you.
Some of that involves questions.
FourScore
20. It's a dumb question. n/t
DainBramaged
25. It's easy, a Democrat, Liberal, Progressive or even Independent wouldn't confuse 'political banter" Updated at 4:35 AM
with performing public safety. Refusing to serve the public for which you are specifically tasked and trained because of "political banter" smacks of not only a Right-winger, but a Teabagger. And resigning before he could be disciplined makes it worse. I am POSITIVE he will appear on the MSM bleating about his First amendment rights real soon.
We are done discussing my reasons and my belief.
FourScore
18. Huh? How do you get the idea this creep was NOT right wing? Updated at 10:02 PM
She is a moderate democrat.
Ptah
19. He voted for her.
FourScore
23. We don't know that. We only know he says he voted for her. Updated at 10:02 PM
Your gonna trust what this creep says? Look at his actions.
MedicalAdmin
43. Ohhhhh - Suuuure he did.
And the BOA is a lender you can trust. And health insurance companies have your best interests at heart. And the Koch Brothers are great american patriots. And investment bankers deserve thier bonuses for colapsing the economy.
Just ask 'em. I'm suuuuuuure they'd NEVER lie. Never.
I simply do not have the words.
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barbtries
56. fire his ass
refusing to do the job he's paid to do because of politics is so...republican. but unamerican to the core.
Um... Isn't the DUmp replete with all sorts of tales of DUmmies refusing to do the jobs they are paid to do when they are confronted with Republicans?
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So I guess all the Democrat Wisconsin state legislators have "effectively quit"? Good, they can start the process of special elections to replace them.
I've been wondering about that for the last day and a half.
If the Dem state senators in Wisconsin wilfully refuse to attend a session, refuse to tend to their duties, is there some mechanism in place where their seats can be declared vacant, and new elections held for those seats?
I mean, if they won't do their job.....
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If it had been a Repub these filthy pricks would be makin' the guy a hero for standin' up for his principals!
Do ya think when they look in a mirror there's any reflection? I don't see how there could be! I'd never be able to look at myself if I was infected with ½ this much hypocrisy!
Ya need to understand what "liberalism is a mental disorder and liberals are clinically insane" really entails.
Liberals have no concept of hypocrisy, it means nothing to them, it doesn't even register with them. Liberals have zero moral values, no moral rudder. As long as their politics and their politburo has an agenda, liberals will agree with racism, rape, murder, theft, pedophilia - as long as it is the methodology their politburo, they will fully support it and act along with it.
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I've been wondering about that for the last day and a half.
If the Dem state senators in Wisconsin wilfully refuse to attend a session, refuse to tend to their duties, is there some mechanism in place where their seats can be declared vacant, and new elections held for those seats?
I mean, if they won't do their job.....
The only one I am aware of Coach, is voting them out of office next election. Otherwise, it's up to the Governor. He's their boss, and I hear he sent the State Police to drag one of 'em back in order to have enough bodies to take a vote.
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The only one I am aware of Coach, is voting them out of office next election. Otherwise, it's up to the Governor. He's their boss, and I hear he sent the State Police to drag one of 'em back in order to have enough bodies to take a vote.
Unfortunately, they're all in Chicago, and the Wisconsin State Police have no authority there.
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Ya need to understand what "liberalism is a mental disorder and liberals are clinically insane" really entails.
Liberals have no concept of hypocrisy, it means nothing to them, it doesn't even register with them. Liberals have zero moral values, no moral rudder. As long as their politics and their politburo has an agenda, liberals will agree with racism, rape, murder, theft, pedophilia - as long as it is the methodology their politburo, they will fully support it and act along with it.
Sadly, very true. We see it over and over at the DUmp. It is obviously one symptom of their absolute inability to understand reality.
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The only one I am aware of Coach, is voting them out of office next election. Otherwise, it's up to the Governor. He's their boss, and I hear he sent the State Police to drag one of 'em back in order to have enough bodies to take a vote.
Couldn't Wisconsin citizens have a petition drive to remove them from office?
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What strikes me as odd is that a firefighter voted for a Democrat. Nearly every cop and firefighter I know are conservatives.....minus the obvious race-based voters.
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Sounds a whole lot more like someone two days from retirement said "Mass shooting? **** that! My retirement papers will be in before you can fire me." Not a good thing to do, but not hard to understand without any adding a slanderous political context, either.
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Sounds a whole lot more like someone two days from retirement said "Mass shooting? **** that! My retirement papers will be in before you can fire me." Not a good thing to do, but not hard to understand without any adding a slanderous political context, either.
There are cops like that. Trust me.
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I've been wondering about that for the last day and a half.
If the Dem state senators in Wisconsin wilfully refuse to attend a session, refuse to tend to their duties, is there some mechanism in place where their seats can be declared vacant, and new elections held for those seats?
I mean, if they won't do their job.....
I was thinking about that. Couldn't a (most likely R) constituent of the run-away State Senators file a federal complaint against them for being denied the "honest services" of their representative? Would that not be an impeachable offense?
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Put out a call. If you are not here, ready for a full days work at 9am then nothing short of your death or the death of an immediate family member works as an excuse. Failure to be here means you will have resigned your position as of 9:00:01.
Special elections to fill your vacated seats will be in 2 weeks and no one who has resigned will be eligible to run again, ever. All State pensions and perks will be canceled for resigned members and repayment of any and all monies paid out this legislative session will be returned.
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What strikes me as odd is that a firefighter voted for a Democrat. Nearly every cop and firefighter I know are conservatives.....minus the obvious race-based voters.
Well Gifford has been described as a "Dino", so she does have some conservative blood runnin' thru her veins.