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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on February 17, 2011, 05:21:54 PM
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It seems all sides have planted their flags on the hill they want to die on in the upcoming Budget-Brawl-to-End-Them-All.
Obama, it seems is doing his level best to conjure a redux of the 1996 battle between Clinton and Gingrich. While I have discussed elsewhere why I do not believe Obama will win that PR battle I believe there is 1 more factor that will now weigh against him.
The Wisconsin Teachers' Union
Whatever political capital will be available to either side will be exhausted quickly. Thanks to Porkulus, Obama et al have readily shoveled most of their starting political capital. The GOP on the other hand, while tarnished by the Bush years, is a different animal with the TEA Party constantly jerking their leash and the MSM broadcasting that fact for free.
I submit the strike in WI is already spending what little political capital the liberals have for this upcoming fight. If it drags on the public will sicken of their Sheboygan shenanigans soon enough. Witness how Chris Christie broke the union in NJ.
The WI showdown could not have come at a worse time for Obama. The nation is growing sick of unions in general and public employee unions in particular that feed off the income most Americans feel very insecure about in the current recession. Effective unemployment puts nearly 1 in 5 Americans out of work which means no income taxes, no sales taxes, etc coupled with more public assistance outlays yet the public employee unions keep demanding more for the jobs they have. Then you have the bullshit of senators fleeing the state to shirk their simple duties of showing-the-****-up when senate dems are trying enact filibuster reform.
I think the American people are damned near ready to counter riot against these bastards and once Obama starts playing his inevitable role he will become the focal point of that populist outrage.
What say you?
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I think you nailed it, Sarge.
Unions had their time and place and certainly did a wealth of good, 75 years ago. That, however was a completely different America and these unions of today bare little resemblance to their forebears. Today these groups are nothing more than an elitist subculture seeking special status at everyone else's expense. **** 'em. Where is the "equality" the leftists whine so much about? A quick comparison between what union workers receive for what they give as compared to what those in merit shops receive shows no small amount of disparity, of course it is the "exploited and victimized" union members who see themselves as the disparaged ones. Am I wrong?
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Excellent analysis Snugs.......IMO, "Public Employees" have absolutely no right to a union........they serve at the pleasure of the people and their elected representatives......
doc
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Amen. The union thugs and the people who support them make me want to puke. They just simply do not understand that a broke country with massive unemployment cannot afford to pay public employees' pensions and benefits and health insurance and so on.
The unions had a place, once. That time has long come and passed, and yes, I trust OSHA much more with my workplace safety than I do any union. I've never observed a single union do a damned thing good for anyone in my 34 years of life. It's high time they get put in their place, but as we all know, "change" only applies to the Right - not the Left. They never have to think outside of their boxes or change their stodgy and ineffective ways. Hypocrites.
And, since I'm only recently finally back on news-watching... Christie broke the NJ unions? I used to live there, and if so, I'm impressed.
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Not that CT ever gets any national attention but our new liberal gov and all liberal state assembly should be, well you know what.
Gov proposed a bigger budget then last year, but said it was less because he's going to get $2 BILLION dollars in concessions from the public unions, problem is he didn't talk to the unions, and they say their not giving up a dime.
Asshat dems in this state are flushing money down the toilet at every turn.
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Off FB
Tonight I signed into law one of the most significant pieces of economic legislation in Arizona state history. It creates the Arizona Commerce Authority, reduces our corporate income tax to 4.9%, provides business tax credits of up to $9,000 for each new job and reduces business personal property taxes, which will spur capital investments. Arizona is OPEN for business!
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What say you?
I'd say well thought out and very correct. It would seem to play into hussein's idea that he is somehow better than Clinton just because he's hussein, but since that didn't save him last November I don't see how it will save him this time, either.
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Good one Sarge.
I am appalled that Public Employees are recieveing better wages, benefits, etc, than I will ever see off of MY labor and yet demand more.
Time to throw them out.
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Reported by Moonbattery (http://www.moonbattery.com/), there will be a Teaparty counter demo tomorrow in Madison:
The Tea Party may not have the Executive Branch of the federal government behind it, like the communist hooligans throwing their extended tantrum in Madison, but that doesn't mean it can't turn out a crowd. The I Stand With Scott Walker Rally is scheduled for noon tomorrow at the South Steps of the Wisconsin State Capitol:
NOW Featuring Andrew Breitbart of Breitbart.com and Jim Hoff of Gateway Pundit. More Speakers TBA.
As the week has progressed, Wisconsin and the Nation have watched schools across Wisconsin close due to teachers participating in a "sick out", the unions bussing people in from other states to inflate their rally numbers in Madison and legislators fleeing the state to avoid the vote on the budget repair bill.
It's time the voices of the Wisconsin people are heard.
As JSOnline points out, "Tea Party groups have held several well-attended rallies in the past in Madison." This one looks like another big success. Wisconsin readers would be hard pressed to find a better way to spend a Saturday afternoon.
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Well, that was fast:
Arizona's open for business and Intel is paying attention! Just yesterday, I signed into law one of the most significant pieces of economic legislation in Arizona state history - legislation to reduce taxes and spur capital investments in Arizona. Today Intel just announced that it will invest more than $5 billion to build a new chip manufacturing facility in our state, which will create thousands of news jobs!
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Well, that was fast:
Arizona's open for business and Intel is paying attention! Just yesterday, I signed into law one of the most significant pieces of economic legislation in Arizona state history - legislation to reduce taxes and spur capital investments in Arizona. Today Intel just announced that it will invest more than $5 billion to build a new chip manufacturing facility in our state, which will create thousands of news jobs!
"Conservatism works every time it's tried."
-- Rush Limbaugh
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I'm not sure if anyone posted this: The teachers' unions, by putting their dollar$ into the fights for their bloated $chool budget$, won't have that much for the Obamessiah in 2012 . . .
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You totally nailed it SSB. H5.
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I'm not sure if anyone posted this: The teachers' unions, by putting their dollar$ into the fights for their bloated $chool budget$, won't have that much for the Obamessiah in 2012 . . .
SSB stated just that when he said that the Democrats are blowing their capital in WI and will have nothing left. They are counting on a win through intimidation, but Walker has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Walker truly represents the people. He will win this one.
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Arizona's open for business and Spain’s Gestamp Solar Steel is paying attention! Last week, I signed into law one of the most significant pieces of economic legislation in Arizona state history - legislation to reduce taxes and spur capital investments in Arizona. Today Gestamp Solar Steel announced that it will locate its U.S. headquarters in Arizona creating hundreds of new jobs! Welcome to Arizona!
Tax breaks continue to work
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I echo most comments here - great review, Snugs.
A couple of small points, if I may:
First, while it's pretty clear that Zero is intending to have history repeat itself with government gridlock returning again (shades of late 1995 and early 1996), he figures he'll wind up with the clean end of the stick and Boehner will be holding the shit end. It's a calculated risk, but since he's such a skilled orator ( :whatever: ) he quite arrogantly assumes that the American people will side with him when the SHTF.
I wish I were a little more confident in the American people holding that smug, self-righteous, former smoker ( :whatever: ) in the White Mosque accountable for his actions. So far, apart from a room-temperature rating from time to time which rises to a toasty level when TOTUS works properly, Zero has largely stayed under the radar screen. All eyes are on the Republican House at the moment - and whether or not Boehner will actually execute what he's threatened to do.
In short, I'm not so sure the MSM will pull this one right out of Zero's ass. Again. The asshat leads a charmed life and I'm just not convinced all 9 lives have been used up.
Regarding unions, I grew up with unions and watched them just about single-handedly destroy a once-flourishing industry in this country - automaking. 'Nuff said about that, except to say that when my cousin bragged that when he made just as much money taking a voluntary layoff than he did when he worked (and didn't have to endure a 100-mile round-trip commute in the process), I knew then that unions had ****ed over the Big Three to levels never before seen by mankind.