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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Revolution on February 07, 2011, 10:50:32 PM
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-07-11 08:00 PM
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Dear Glenn Beck, you ignorant, fear-mongering, douchebag, unbalanced, piece of shit mother-****er:
I heard you took some of the Green Bay Packers and Pittsburgh Steelers to task today. Apparently they weren't American enough for you at the Super Bowl. Well guess what, Beck? I have been wounded twice in defense of my country, and just like some of the Packers and Steelers whom you accused of being unpatriotic, I did not place my hand over my heart during the playing of the National Anthem. However, this will clearly serve, at least for today, as your outrage of the moment.
Beck, your brand of faux patriotism is contemptible. Putting your hand a few centimeters above your gut doesn't make you a patriot, dipshit. You have made an obscene amount of money telling approximately half of this country that they are un-American, while telling the other half to be scared shitless. What have you given back, and how has the nation benefited from that? You have also attempted to co-opt "support the troops" in a effort to prove your love of country (and make a few more bucks). Well, I've said it before, asswipe, and now I'll say it again ... the only kind of support that mattered to us was fire support; it was true 40 years ago, and it's true today, so either pick up a weapon or shut your ****ing mouth about "the troops".
You make me sick.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x369975
First of all, thank you for your service. Secondly, putting your hand over your heart may not make you patriotic, but it DOES make you respectful, and respectable. I am very happy that you defended civilians such as myself in the past. However, what you have become now saddens me...to no end, in fact. I really have nothing else to say to you, Bravo, so good day.
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No hatred in that post. :whistling:
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Kind of ironical, ain't it?
Then again, most posts at the DUmp are.
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Actually, it seems to me that placing your hand over your heart for the anthem is a relatively recent deal. Every decent person always removed his hat, and only drunken louts yell "Play Ball" or cheer halfway through the last stanza, but until the past few years it was a minority of people who put their hand over their heart. It's become more of a custom lately. Everyone should have their hand over their heart for the Pledge, but I don't see it as disrespectful for the anthem, as long as it's not one of the jerks who keeps his hat on. A lot of decent and civilized people have no idea they are offending anyone if they stand with their hands at their sides.
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Actually, it seems to me that placing your hand over your heart for the anthem is a relatively recent deal. Every decent person always removed his hat, and only drunken louts yell "Play Ball" or cheer halfway through the last stanza, but until the past few years it was a minority of people who put their hand over their heart. It's become more of a custom lately. Everyone should have their hand over their heart for the Pledge, but I don't see it as disrespectful for the anthem, as long as it's not one of the jerks who keeps his hat on. A lot of decent and civilized people have no idea they are offending anyone if they stand with their hands at their sides.
Way back as far as I can recall, they always played the National Anthem before high school games. Everyone stood with their hand over their hearts and face the flag. If wearing a hat, you took it off , held it in the left while putting your right over your heart. That goes back at least to the early 70's.
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THE UNITED STATES CODE
title 36
subtitle I
part A
chapter 3
§ (subsection ?) 301
§ 301. National anthem
(a) Designation.- The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing.- During a rendition of the national anthem-
(1) when the flag is displayed-
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
One especially unusual performance of the song took place on September 12, 2001, after the United States had been attacked by terrorists the day before: it was played by the Band of the Coldstream Guards at Buckingham Palace in London at the ceremonial Changing of the Guard as a gesture of support for Britain's ally.
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Dear Glenn Beck,
You have a hangnail. I'm offended and will be posting this at an obscure liberal website that attracts only the finest stupid, deranged idiots on the Internets. I noticed said hangnail when you put your hand over your heart in a fake attempt at patriotism while Christina Aguilera was delighting the crowd with an updated version of the National (warmongering) Anthem. It was unsightly and mean-spirited to those of us trying to give the appearance of proper nail care. While you mention the "support the troops" meme very seldom it's one of those things that will always get a rise out of my fellow moonba...idio...uh...patriots at the DUmp. I will instantly be praised for my insight and speaking "truth to power" even though no person in power will ever hear my insane rantings. However, I haven't had a bouncy in quite some time. I'd appreciate it if you could find a cop to jump out of the bushes and a right wing loon to stand next to me at the grocery store or sit at a table near me at McDonald's (where I will only be eating a salad) the next time you try to offend us with your lack of proper nail care so that I can show my fellow DUmmies how enlightened I am and how I constantly sacrifice to show those on the right the error of their ways. Also, I'd appreciate the name of the right wing, greedy corporate assholes who manufacture your nail care products. There are about 5 of us who would like to pretend we've initiated a nationwide boycott.
I'd say "sincerely yours" but I'd lose points with those I'm trying rather desperately to impress so I'll just say...signed,
11 Bravo...extreme patriot since Obama was elected and has been working tirelessly to take America down a peg and make us more like the free societies of China, Venezuela, and Cuba.
Cindie
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I think DUmmie 11 Bravo left a word off of his name.
Shouldn't it be 11 Bravo Sierra? It seems more fitting.
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Dear Glenn Beck,
You have a hangnail. I'm offended and will be posting this at an obscure liberal website that attracts only the finest stupid, deranged idiots on the Internets. I noticed said hangnail when you put your hand over your heart in a fake attempt at patriotism while Christina Aguilera was delighting the crowd with an updated version of the National (warmongering) Anthem. It was unsightly and mean-spirited to those of us trying to give the appearance of proper nail care. While you mention the "support the troops" meme very seldom it's one of those things that will always get a rise out of my fellow moonba...idio...uh...patriots at the DUmp. I will instantly be praised for my insight and speaking "truth to power" even though no person in power will ever hear my insane rantings. However, I haven't had a bouncy in quite some time. I'd appreciate it if you could find a cop to jump out of the bushes and a right wing loon to stand next to me at the grocery store or sit at a table near me at McDonald's (where I will only be eating a salad) the next time you try to offend us with your lack of proper nail care so that I can show my fellow DUmmies how enlightened I am and how I constantly sacrifice to show those on the right the error of their ways. Also, I'd appreciate the name of the right wing, greedy corporate assholes who manufacture your nail care products. There are about 5 of us who would like to pretend we've initiated a nationwide boycott.
I'd say "sincerely yours" but I'd lose points with those I'm trying rather desperately to impress so I'll just say...signed,
11 Bravo...extreme patriot since Obama was elected and has been working tirelessly to take America down a peg and make us more like the free societies of China, Venezuela, and Cuba.
Cindie
There's always rent-A-cop.
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THE UNITED STATES CODE
title 36
subtitle I
part A
chapter 3
§ (subsection ?) 301
§ 301. National anthem
(a) Designation.- The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing.- During a rendition of the national anthem-
(1) when the flag is displayed-
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
One especially unusual performance of the song took place on September 12, 2001, after the United States had been attacked by terrorists the day before: it was played by the Band of the Coldstream Guards at Buckingham Palace in London at the ceremonial Changing of the Guard as a gesture of support for Britain's ally.
To add to your quote, the Department of Veteran Affairs, shortly before President Bush left office, changed the regulation to state that veterans were allowed to render a military salute to the flag at their discretion.
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-07-11 08:00 PM
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Well guess what, Beck? I have been wounded twice in defense of my country
No, you haven't, you ****ing poser.
Putting your hand a few centimeters above your gut doesn't make you a patriot, dipshit.
No, but it does make you respectful. As in respect for your country. As in something you haven't had for, oh, say ever, DUmmie mouth-breather.
What have you given back, and how has the nation benefited from that?
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/44980/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131046118
You have also attempted to co-opt "support the troops" in a effort to prove your love of country (and make a few more bucks).
Beats the hell out of what you dregs call "support".
Well, I've said it before, asswipe, and now I'll say it again ... the only kind of support that mattered to us was fire support; it was true 40 years ago, and it's true today, so either pick up a weapon or shut your ****ing mouth about "the troops".
That's pretty funny right there, I don't care who you are. A poser running his hole as if he knows something...
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Tell you what, "asswipe", why don't you do something useful like turn around tell that bunch of howler monkeys you associate with at the DUmp the same thing. Quite frankly, those of us who have defended your right to wave your e-penis around the internet are sick and tired of you twats telling us how you're supporting us by supporting our enemies.
You make me sick.
Ditto, "asswipe".
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-07-11 08:00 PM
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Well guess what, Beck? I have been wounded twice in defense of my country
Well, John F'in' Kerry has you all beat to Hell on that one, and none of his even required hospitalization. You're a total ***** compared to him, aren'tcha?
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Who is this twit? I don't believe a ****in' word he says. No vet would be this disrespectful to our country and flag, unless of course he was one of those VietNam era hippies who we had to drag kickin' and screamin' before the draft board because he couldn't hitch hike to Canada quick enough.
****in' puke!
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Well, John F'in' Kerry has you all beat to Hell on that one, and none of his even required hospitalization. You're a total ***** compared to him, aren'tcha?
Best John F'n quote of all time: "Can I buy me a huntin' license?" That line is seared into my memory.
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The closest 11 Bravo Sierra got to combat was watching reruns of McHales Navy.
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Well because of my good nature, I just wanted to give the benefit of the doubt. I don't always know who has served, and who hasn't. Only if they're in uniform on leave or something IRL do I know for sure. Especially difficult for me to tell online. I by no means meant to respect a DUmor who has not in fact served, but still claims to have.
In fact, that gets a fair bit more venom, and hatred from Revolution. **** you, Bravo!!
Tell you what, "asswipe", why don't you do something useful like turn around tell that bunch of howler monkeys you associate with at the DUmp the same thing. Quite frankly, those of us who have defended your right to wave your e-penis around the internet are sick and tired of you twats telling us how you're supporting us by supporting our enemies.
Love this comment. :yahoo:
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When 11BB first came to my attention he bragged about being in the A Shau Valley. Inthe 1970's when in fact the battle took place in 1969. My old Battalion at Ft.Campbell was involved in that action at that time and they lost half of the unit. 11BB couldn't even bother himself to at least Google the facts before he let loose with his E-penis
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Love this comment. :yahoo:
:-)
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When 11BB first came to my attention he bragged about being in the A Shau Valley. Inthe 1970's when in fact the battle took place in 1969. My old Battalion at Ft.Campbell was involved in that action at that time and they lost half of the unit. 11BB couldn't even bother himself to at least Google the facts before he let loose with his E-penis
Shoulda known! There's so many wanna bees over there, it's impossible to tell who actually had their feet in blood and guts! I'll lay odds I've seen more combat in the inner city of Seattle than this dipshit has seen in VietNam!
Lord, how I detest these counterfeit heroes!! That's just somethin' ya don't brag about! Even if ya went thru it! Never met a man who has, and I lost a step brother and several of my high school buds over there!
How low can ya get????????????
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And many of my uncles, and even aunts were combat troops, medics, etc, so it makes it even worse when they pretend that they have been Brothers in Arms. Bastards...
Oh, and another thing I hear you don't do: Brag about being a Hell's Angel if you never were. Not comparing the two in the least, but I heard that kinda thing can get you killed.
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And many of my uncles, and even aunts were combat troops, medics, etc, so it makes it even worse when they pretend that they have been Brothers in Arms. Bastards...
Oh, and another thing I hear you don't do: Brag about being a Hell's Angel if you never were. Not comparing the two in the least, but I heard that kinda thing can get you killed.
Heh! I can vouch for that bein' the truth! I hung around the "Gallopin' Goose" in my younger days, and playin' wanna be with the Angels was a death sentence! I figured it wasn't for me when we played "King of the Hill" on a three story barn!!!!
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And many of my uncles, and even aunts were combat troops, medics, etc, so it makes it even worse when they pretend that they have been Brothers in Arms. Bastards...
Oh, and another thing I hear you don't do: Brag about being a Hell's Angel if you never were. Not comparing the two in the least, but I heard that kinda thing can get you killed.
Yes it can. Lying about being a Ranger, SEAL, Pararescue, MoH winner, or the like will mostly only get you shunned and humiliated, or perhaps slightly mangled if it's really your unlucky day.
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Yes it can. Lying about being a Ranger, SEAL, Pararescue, MoH winner, or the like will mostly only get you shunned and humiliated, or perhaps slightly mangled if it's really your unlucky day.
Oh, I don't know. It won DUmp stardom for TomInTib, though I think he fell inches short of claiming the Medal of Honor.
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Yes it can. Lying about being a Ranger, SEAL, Pararescue, MoH winner, or the like will mostly only get you shunned and humiliated, or perhaps slightly mangled if it's really your unlucky day.
Among other things. On my first boat, we had a real shitbag junior yeoman who liked to hit up the Japanese tourists and impress them. One time he told some bimbo he was a Reactor Operator (I was one.) I heard about it and told him on the mess decks to be on the boat at 0200 for a short-form precrit and standing RO (under instruction) for a 0300 startup.
Needless to say he didn't pull that one again as far as I heard. But he ended up going UA a couple of times and got shitcanned after I left.
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Oh, I don't know. It won DUmp stardom for TomInTib, though I think he fell inches short of claiming the Medal of Honor.
Well, he DID claim to be some kind of hybrid SEAL/Ranger in VN, but his award claims were 'limited' (Cough) to the Navy Cross, which he used for an avatar for awhile. I believe he also claimed to be only the second Navy enlisted man to get one, and therefore the second-most decorated enlisted sailor ever, despite the fact that with even a modest search effort, the internet will quicky yield up stories of sailors awarded the MoH and much more than just one other Navy Cross.
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Well, he DID claim to be some kind of hybrid SEAL/Ranger in VN, but his award claims were 'limited' (Cough) to the Navy Cross, which he used for an avatar for awhile. I believe he also claimed to be only the second Navy enlisted man to get one, and therefore the second-most decorated enlisted sailor ever, despite the fact that with even a modest search effort, the internet will quicky yield up stories of sailors awarded the MoH and much more than just one other Navy Cross.
You may also recall that once, during a lull between battles, TiT was helicoptered out to a ship offshore, and assigned to be an armed guard over some nuclear weapons that were onboard, with orders to shoot to kill. But overseeing nukes was just a part time job for TiT.
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I don't remember the nukes (or was that the time he was joking with the VIP's PSD about how he was going to blow away - Warner, was it? - with his shotgun?), but I will always get a laugh out of his horde of illegal NFA weapons stashed with a wink and a nod from his pal, the local Chief of Police, in good ol' gun-freindly coastal Californistan.
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I don't remember the nukes (or was that the time he was joking with the VIP's PSD about how he was going to blow away - Warner, was it? - with his shotgun?), but I will always get a laugh out of his horde of illegal NFA weapons stashed with a wink and a nod from his pal, the local Chief of Police, in good ol' gun-freindly coastal Californistan.
Heh! Then when one of us contacted the COP, he came back and told everyone it did no good to call the COP as the weapons were in his girlfriends name or some shit, didn't he? That and according to the COP he had no idea who the hell TitBoy was!
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Every 6 months at work some of us attended first aid classes to renew our knowledge of CPR and all the things that go with it.
The two Registered Nurses that held the classes were well into their 60's and sharp as a tack.
For over 20 years we saw these woman twice a year took the classes but knew nothing about these woman except they were no nonsense woman with little sense of humor.
The last class I took with them kind of amazed me, we were discussing the fact that using a tourniquet on a limb most likely mean the patient would loose that limb. Some of us knew this but the new class mates did not know this.
One of the Nurses went wookie at that, she turned to the other Nurse looking off into space somewhere and said, " You remember the time we had to get that young kid off the chopper and use pressure on his arm and run with the gurney to triage, our hands were numb for hours from the pressure."
I believe I was the only one old enough to realise these woman had been Army Nurses in Nam,. Just middle aged woman that saw and worked with the results of war. Without the nurse suits, say in jeans and sweat shirts, these woman could walk about unnoticed in public, real HEROS and no one knew.
One office worker has Tet-68 on his license plate, I know what that means but do people under 40 know.??
Every day we walk with Hero's, the last people anyone would think of helping us helping us remain free. Any day we walk past people in their 70's that fought in Korea, street people that are in their 60's that fought in Nam, may have saved the life of one of the people in our family.
Everywhere we go we walk among Hero's and are blind to them. That cranky old man that lives next door to you may have seen blood shed we cannot imagine. That confused old lady that bothers everyone just may have kept your father alive in a hospital after being wounded in some war.
When we are in a crowd and the Flag goes by in a Parade, the people that give respect to the flag just may be a HERO, age goes from the young kids of today in the Middle East to the few left from WW2 in Wheel chairs. We walk everyday with true Hero's.
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Your tourniquet info is a little out of date, vesta; there's a strap tourniquet in the first-aid battle pack these days, due to the heavy prevalence of IED injuries over small arms wounds, and the increased evac speed, they are used a lot more now than in Nam. Too bad Kerry didn't get a scrape on his noggin and have to use one then...
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Your tourniquet info is a little out of date, vesta; there's a strap tourniquet in the first-aid battle pack these days, due to the heavy prevalence of IED injuries over small arms wounds, and the increased evac speed, they are used a lot more now than in Nam. Too bad Kerry didn't get a scrape on his noggin and have to use one then...
You can also apply tourniquets in an on for a while off for a while repetition. Learned that years ago farmin'!