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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on February 07, 2011, 11:22:28 AM
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-05-11 05:41 PM
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Reagan Secret Service Agent Shoots Self in Hip
Source: KTLA
CAMARILLO (KTLA) -- One of Nancy Reagan's Secret Service agents accidentally shot himself in the hip on the eve of a weekend filled with celebrations for the anniversary of Ronald Reagan's birth.
The shooting occurred around 10 a.m. Friday morning at the Ventura County Sheriff's Department shooting range in Camarillo. According to sheriffs, the agent was putting his gun back in its holster when it accidentally fired. He was transported to a local hospital with a non-life threatening injury to his hip.
The agent, whose identity was not revealed, is part of the division that handles security for Nancy Reagan. The division had rented a portion of the shooting range Friday morning for regular training.
Read more: http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-camarillo-secret-...
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To be the "non-violent" ones, they sure seem to enjoy seeing other people hurt.
The abyss (862 posts) Sat Feb-05-11 06:07 PM
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3. ROFLOL
Edited on Sat Feb-05-11 06:08 PM by The abyss
I love it when these insecurity agents pull stupid stunts!
Can I hope for a youtube posting anytime soon?
Can't stop laughing.....
edit for recommend.
The abyss (862 posts) Sat Feb-05-11 06:19 PM
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8. They get what they pay for
Many, in that line of work, can't get a job burning frys with a well known burger chain.
I can't figure out why people are down-grading this story! I'm still laughing.
The abyss (862 posts) Sat Feb-05-11 06:54 PM
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13. I really don't care what his GPA is or was.
What I like is nit-wits with invested authority showing just how down right stupid they are.
Youtube, anytime soon?
Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-05-11 11:21 PM
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30. *Know how to not accidentally shoot yourself in the hip
The abyss (862 posts) Sun Feb-06-11 01:01 AM
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35. I have fired more live ammo on more platforms than most people have seen blanks popped in movies.
I am not arrogant.
I simplely hate the ****ing system. And I love it when some insecurity nit-wit shoots them-self in the ass!
tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-05-11 06:13 PM
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5. insert 'shooting from the hip' comment here
I guess renting that shooting range Friday a bit of a loss
Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-05-11 06:19 PM
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7. Bernard P. Fife is his name
Andy is going to take his bullet away from him for this.
greiner3 (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-05-11 06:35 PM
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12. And where was Cheney?
That would be just like Nancy to cover up for him and say he was not there. Who would believe a Secret Service guy after that?
Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-05-11 06:54 PM
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14. Quick someone write a screen treatment for Guarding Tess II
The abyss (862 posts) Sat Feb-05-11 07:28 PM
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18. I just thought of something...
How long do the US taxpayers keep a Praetorian Guard around these people?
Bridges falling down, roads with pot-holes the size of a meteor impact.... etc.
Do the US citizens fund a Praetorian Guard for every congress critter and their extended family forever?
Bombero1956 (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-05-11 10:25 PM
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26. bullshit
It was Cheney mistaking him for a rabbit.
Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-05-11 11:48 PM
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31. Was it Barney Fife?
icnorth (810 posts) Sun Feb-06-11 04:24 PM
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44. Barney was just the instructor...
It was the guy wearing badge #3...
Ian David (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-06-11 08:25 AM
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39. That makes two "accidental discharges" in the Bush White House, 1 hunting accident and now this. n/t
Javaman (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-07-11 09:43 AM
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53. Maybe he was just trying to get out of working. LOL nt
Plus, DU's resident weapons experts come out to tell the agent what he did wrong. :whatever:
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:wtf2: :wtf3:
BDS makes a really stooopid appearance.
Ian David (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-06-11 08:25 AM
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39. That makes two "accidental discharges" in the Bush White House, 1 hunting accident and now this. n/t
What a DUchebag. He was on former First Lady Nancy Reagan's security detail, not the GWB security detail. What a ****ing idiot.
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:wtf2: :wtf3:
BDS makes a really stooopid appearance.
What a DUchebag. He was on former First Lady Nancy Reagan's security detail, not the GWB security detail. What a ****ing idiot.
I was thinking the same thing...what does this incident have to do with President Bush???
And had this happened to Mrs. 0bama's secret service agent, I'm sure the DUmmies would be blaming the BFEE and talking about how brave this agent was.
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I was thinking the same thing...what does this incident have to do with President Bush???
And had this happened to Mrs. 0bama's secret service agent, I'm sure the DUmmies would be blaming the BFEE and talking about how brave this agent was.
Everything is President Bush's fault.
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I was thinking the same thing...what does this incident have to do with President Bush???
And had this happened to Mrs. 0bama's secret service agent, I'm sure the DUmmies would be blaming the BFEE and talking about how brave this agent was.
I just took a look at the calendar and it says this is 2011. Is Bush still in charge of the Secret Service?
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The abyss (862 posts) Sat Feb-05-11 07:28 PM
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18. I just thought of something...
How long do the US taxpayers keep a Praetorian Guard around these people?
Bridges falling down, roads with pot-holes the size of a meteor impact.... etc.
Do the US citizens fund a Praetorian Guard for every congress critter and their extended family forever?
For about as long as we taxpayers keep paying citizens to lay on their asses, mouth-breather.
One group has an actual usable function, the other just lives to steal from the productive. I'll let those among us who have more than 2 braincells to rub together to figure that out.
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Can't stop laughing.....
I wasn't the least bit amused by it. What sort of person laughs at a gunshot wound, and then can't stop laughing? I don't get it.
Ginabug's welcome thread....now that was one where I couldn't stop laughing.
BTW, who gave me a bitchslap during lunch today?
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I've had a lot of respect for Secret Service agents since seeing the agent jump between President Reagan and that Hinckley nut. He allowed himself to be gutshot in order to protect the President. That's what you call a hero.
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I'd be willing to venture a bet that the SS agent was carrying a Glock.....
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I'd be willing to venture a bet that the SS agent was carrying a Glock.....
Uh huh I'd bet the farm on it. O-)
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Uh huh I'd bet the farm on it. O-)
In .357 SIG, IIRC.
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I wasn't the least bit amused by it. What sort of person laughs at a gunshot wound, and then can't stop laughing? I don't get it.
Ginabug's welcome thread....now that was one where I couldn't stop laughing.
BTW, who gave me a bitchslap during lunch today?
Wasn't me, but I and a few others use "prolly" when we speak of, or to, DUmmies. It's easier for them to understand.
Just sayin'.............
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Poor range safety. I'm no SS agent but my weapon is always clear before it ever stops pointing down range.
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeGD7r6s-zU[/youtube]
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Poor range safety. I'm no SS agent but my weapon is always clear before it ever stops pointing down range.
Not me. I ride hot with one in the tube and safety off at all times on my H&K USP .45. Have carried like this my entire career. Seconds count when a bad guy has the drop on you.
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A good friend of mine was a SS agent. He was assigned to Alexander Haig. I bought a 71 Combat Commander from him in 73. He needed money to get his family to Virginia. I still have it.
Anyway. The DUmmies are laughing at the same group of people who are responsible for protecting their fearless leader.
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Not me. I ride hot with one in the tube and safety off at all times on my H&K USP .45. Have carried like this my entire career. Seconds count when a bad guy has the drop on you.
That's how I carry my .45 ACP! The most dangerous and worthless thing in the world is an unloaded weapon! It is what I have taught my kids and my grandkids for 40 years! A weapon is ready to fire every time! How many "accidents" are caused by "unloaded" weapons???????????
Number 1, you have much more respect for the weapon and treat it as such!
Number 2, I've seen and heard too many pawn shop owners, Convenience Store clerks, and Jewelry Store owners hit the trigger and find out durin' duress, they had the Damn safety on, nuthin' in the chamber, and end up pushin' up daisies or mortally wounded because they carry their weapon around as if they are afraid to hurt someone!!! Not a scenario I want to have to deal with, "after the fact"!
**** that!!! If I'm not around, I want "Toots" to know if she as to pull a trigger, it's goin' to kill the bastard threatenin' her the first time she pulls down!
I could never forgive myself if somethin' happened and my house gun, the .44 just went "click" the first time she needed it for self defense!!!!!!
ETA:
Same goes for my 1909 Double Barrel Parker Bros 12 gauge! It's loaded with double 00 buck, and ready at all times! It's definitely put up where ya have to reach to get it, but when you pull either trigger, by g*d it's gonna cut ya in half if you're in front of it!
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Not me. I ride hot with one in the tube and safety off at all times on my H&K USP .
45. Have carried like this my entire career. Seconds count when a bad guy has the drop on you.
One in the chamber here too.
Never had an issue.
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One in the chamber okay. Chambered with safety off is what got Plaxico. To each his own, but I'm real uncomfortable with the safety off if the gun isn't in my hand. I don't see how you lose time, since it's so easy to move the safety off when you grip and raise the weapon.
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One in the chamber okay. Chambered with safety off is what got Plaxico. To each his own, but I'm real uncomfortable with the safety off if the gun isn't in my hand. I don't see how you lose time, since it's so easy to move the safety off when you grip and raise the weapon.
I have a huge paranoia of being attacked while carrying my daughter or something else, like shopping bags. If I only have one free hand, I don't think I'd be able to successfully take the gun off of safety, slide the rack and then shoot. I like the convenience of taking the gun out of the holster, pointing, and shooting. My gun is still on safety, but there is one in the chamber at all times.
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My Dad is a NRA certified range Nazi. It doesn't matter how many times anyone has been on his range, the first thing he requires is a demonstration on rapidly drawing the weapon and re-holstering the weapon before he will allow the weapon to be loaded. A finger inside the trigger guard during the draw or the re-holstering is an automatic failure and a send back to re-training. He is proud of the fact that in twenty years of doing this he has not had one injury due to accidental discharge of a weapon.
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One in the chamber okay. Chambered with safety off is what got Plaxico. To each his own, but I'm real uncomfortable with the safety off if the gun isn't in my hand. I don't see how you lose time, since it's so easy to move the safety off when you grip and raise the weapon.
Plaxice was carrying a Glock that didn't have a manual safety. He was was that when the gun slid down his pants, he tried to grab it instead of letting it hit the floor. When he tried to grab the gun, he grabbed the trigger and it went bang. I teach everyone to just let it hit the floor. Plaxico's first mistake was that he was Mexican carrying the Glock. No holster, just stuck in his waistband.
I carry a firearm whenever I leave the house. 90% of the time it's a 1911. I carry it condition 1. One up the pipe, hammer cocked and slide safety locked. The other 10% of the time, I carry various bottom feeders. My Kahr's are double action only and have no external safety. My Sig 239 is a double/single action. It doesn't have an external safety but has a decocker. Action is similar to the Barretta 92/M9. While carrying a 1911 platform pistol, I wouldn't worry if the slide safety was clicked off as the grip safety has to be depressed in order to discharge. I could never carry my competition 1911's as the grip safety's has been disengaged and they average a 2# trigger pull.
I recently read a article by Mas Ayoob on the difference of carrying a handgun and getting it into action with the safety on or off. The difference is less than a second. I agree with you on taking the safety off as you bring the gun into action.