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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mr Mannn on February 07, 2011, 06:37:39 AM
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The world is just a big communist family out there. The peoples of the world YEARN for the chains of communism. Why in fact the Egyptians are all about to become atheist commies-just like us! really...
Better Believe It (1000+ posts)
The Egyptian Uprising Is a Direct Response to Ruthless Global Capitalism
The Egyptian Uprising Is a Direct Response to Ruthless Global Capitalism
Economic decline at the hands of 'hot' money has driven Egyptians' discontent
By Nomi Prins
February 4, 2011
The revolution in Egypt is as much a rebellion against the painful deterioration of economic conditions as it is about opposing a dictator, though they are linked. That's why President Hosni Mubarak's announcement that he intends to stick around until September was met with an outpouring of rage.
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[I'm cutting out several paragraphs of socialist projection]
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Citizens protesting in the streets from Greece to England, and more demonstrably, from Tunisia to Egypt, may be revolting for national reasons and against individual governments, but they share a common bond. They are revolting against a world that lines the pockets of rich deal-makers while sticking the tab to ordinary people. That bond is global. Related protests could reach Colombia and Ghana -- and maybe someday, the United States.
Read the full article at:
http://www.alternet.org/world/149793/the_egyptian_upris...
Whats amazing is none of the signs or interviews with Egyptians say anything like this. These people want freedom, but are going to get a brutal theocracy instead. You and I can see this, but it will be a total surprise for the Primitives.
Link to all the silliness
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=358052&mesg_id=358052
socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-06-11 09:29 AM
Response to Reply #4
13. "Capitalism is an evil." And Sabrina's comment about........
capitalism being an "...evil system." I AGREE with you both. The only difference is that I would capitalize the "e". It's an Evil system. I even think that it's Satanic.
Kick for awareness.
There a few voices of reason on the thread but they are brutally shouted down.
social_critic (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-06-11 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. Capitalism isn't evil at all
I wonder where you get these ideas. And what would you propose as an alternative? I see a lot of anti capitalist posts here, but I don't see any alternatives being discussed in detail.
socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts)
19. So you want me to set up a radical socialist .........
governmental structure in an internet post? Don't think so. I WILL say that MY personal vision would be based largely on an economic model of owner operated small businesses and worker co-ops for larger concerns. The national government would have control of all of the "general welfare" types of businesses/industries AND tight control over interstate businesses. IF a business got to a certain size, the government would step in an run it for the "general welfare". The closest I could come in a nutshell would be that the dog (government) would wag the tail (business) and NOT vice versa.
And of course it's Evil. It's a TOTALLY amoral system that glorifies making the most money possible. Ethics and morality doesn't enter the equation at ALL. How could that NOT be Evil?
Countdown_3_2_1 (378 posts)
10. Bingo.
Bottom line: all politics are local.
Whats happening in Egypt is the natural outcome of a dictator's brutal repression.
It has nothing to do with global economies.
People in Egypt yearn to be free. They are not making an economic statement.
bread_and_roses (1000+ posts)
25. "nothing to do with global economies."
[Laughing smiley]
defendandprotect (1000+ posts)
47. Of course it has to do with "global economies" ... US taxpayer has paid for this dictatorship ....
US has supplied the arms/weapons -- American taxpayers paid for it all !!
American taxpayers are slaves to our MIC and our weapons manufacturing -- !!
That's pretty much our entire economy!!
And we're exporting this idea in arming Mubarak and his military force which he
is likely to use now to destroy these citizens of Egypt.
Of course they are making an "economic statement" -- 50% of Egyptians are living
in poverty. An economic system which has provided billions for Mubarak --
$40 BILLION DOLLARS KEEP OUT OF THE COUNTRY -- AND PERHAPS AS MUCH AS $70 billion -- !!
Globalization is only possible under capitalism -- and corporate rule!
Capitalism is an evil and you cannot regulate evil. You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is called democracy. Michael Moore in "Capitalism: A Love Story" (Technically, democracy is not an economic system, but obviously unless you have economic democracy you don't have democracy.)
girl gone mad (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #10
49. Bullsh-t.
This event is directly tied to destructive neoliberal global economic policies.
The CIA apparently didn't see it coming, but those who have been watching what's been happening to world economies certainly did. You can only push people so far. They're not going to work like slaves for crumbs when they can see the people at the top are being rewarded handsomely for screwing them over.
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IF I CAN'T BE RICH FROM NO WORK, AIN'T NOBODY GONNA GET RICH BY WORKING. [DUmmie/mode]
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Ethics and morality doesn't enter the equation at ALL.
Wrong, TN Socialist. Under a free market economy, if people perceive a company to be run by assholes with unethical policies and unfair practices and so forth, we vote with our dollars and not do business with them. There is also legal framework to guard against out and out ripoffs.
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Funny, they act like experts on Egypt but the word never crossed their lips (fingers) until the protests started.
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Funny, they act like experts on Egypt but the word never crossed their lips (fingers) until the protests started.
That and for all the condemantion of Mubarak they mostly love Chavez.
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The national government would have control of all of the "general welfare" types of businesses/industries AND tight control over interstate businesses. IF a business got to a certain size, the government would step in an run it for the "general welfare". The closest I could come in a nutshell would be that the dog (government) would wag the tail (business) and NOT vice versa.
Oh my! So let me get this straight, if ya make cheap ass ear rings the government leaves ya alone, but if you employ say 50 people or more, they fire you so you can go back to the welfare line! What a great ****in' idea!
Someone needs to slap the shit out of you!
You bet yer ass there DUmbass! The gubmint does such a fine job of runnin' everything they touch, right? How deep do you have to have your head up that massive cavern you call an ass to not know the gubmint wastes at least half of everything they take in? They are right now printin' money they don't have, to keep the freebees goin' they promised you useless worms, in order make sure you don't pull your heads out into daylight!
You clowns keep tellin' us SS is solvent, yet your buddies in DC have stole the damn fund for years! Why don't ya run out and find a Bookie and tell him your IOU is the same as cash, ya moron! Wanna know how quick you could get your legs broke spewin' such nonsense, idiot?
And of course it's Evil. It's a TOTALLY amoral system that glorifies making the most money possible. Ethics and morality doesn't enter the equation at ALL. How could that NOT be Evil?
I'm sure Bill Gates and Warren Buffet will be surprised to hear this. How much money are they giving to charity these days?
I won't even comment on that strict control of interstate commerce BullShit, it's too stupid to even contemplate as you morons can't even figure out the deregulation from state to state over medical insurance could make healthcare more competitive, thus reducing the cost without an unconstitutional 2800 page law full government waste.
defendandprotect (1000+ posts)
47. Of course it has to do with "global economies" ... US taxpayer has paid for this dictatorship ....
US has supplied the arms/weapons -- American taxpayers paid for it all !!
American taxpayers are slaves to our MIC and our weapons manufacturing -- !!
That's pretty much our entire economy!!
And we're exporting this idea in arming Mubarak and his military force which he
is likely to use now to destroy these citizens of Egypt.
Another Einstein Jr, I see! I guess all that military hardware will be just fine if the Muslim Brotherhood uses it to wipe Israel off the map, huh?
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Funny, they act like experts on Egypt but the word never crossed their lips (fingers) until the protests started.
What? You don't think know-it-all nadinbrzhzhzhzhzhski was tossing off references to "policies of the NDP" before this started?
You don't believe these DUmmies already had strong opinions about this ElBaradei character?