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Title: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: thundley4 on February 02, 2011, 12:16:40 PM
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MilesColtrane   (1000+ posts)             Wed Feb-02-11 12:46 PM
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I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blackouts today.
   
16 degrees here and Texas power companies have been ordered to begin rotating power outages.

http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/02/01/2815725/dfw-sto...

That utility deregulation is really working out for us all, isn't it?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x330929

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onehandle   (1000+ posts)           Wed Feb-02-11 12:49 PM
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1. Centralized power is Socialism. Build your own power plant, hippie! nt

Government still regulates the electric industries and prevents new plants from being built.

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KamaAina   (1000+ posts)             Wed Feb-02-11 01:12 PM
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14. Same reason California had them under Ahh-nuld
   
naked corporate greed. 

Wasn't the Dem Governor before Arnold recalled because of rolling blackouts?
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on February 02, 2011, 12:20:17 PM
Wasn't the Dem Governor before Arnold recalled because of rolling blackouts?
He was and California's utility industry WAS heavily regulated for everything EXCEPT producing power.

So apart for whining about unusual steps in unusual times (while they produced abject failure in the best of times) I'm not sure what it is the DUmbasses are bemoaning.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: Traveshamockery on February 02, 2011, 12:20:54 PM
The rolling blackouts in Texas aren't that bad.  My power has gone out three times this morning for 15 minutes each time.  I guess the DUmmies would rather just have the electric grid fail altogether so they could blame that on Rick Perry, too.  
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: Carl on February 02, 2011, 12:25:29 PM
WTF are they talking about...the reason for them is because everyone turned up the electric heat in their houses and drew more energy then what was being produced.

http://www.kens5.com/news/CPS-Not-enough-power-in-Texas-for-widespread-frigid-temperatures-115110529.html

Maybe if the libs haven`t prevented us from having nuclear power generation they wouldn`t be having this issue.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: CC27 on February 02, 2011, 12:26:39 PM
I had no idea Perry had that kind of power to control electric? Sick how DUmmies look to elected officials as God's. since they hate any kind of Church.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 02, 2011, 12:29:27 PM
If you haven't slapped the DUmmie a few times that you're trying to explain this to,you not going to have any luck....slapping does no good but at least you have their attention for a few seconds.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: thundley4 on February 02, 2011, 12:36:39 PM
If you haven't slapped the DUmmie a few times that you're trying to explain this to,you not going to have any luck....slapping does no good but at least you have their attention for a few seconds.

Don't forget slapping them is fun, too.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 02, 2011, 12:45:31 PM
Don't forget slapping them is fun, too.

...and a great stress reliever. Just doesn't last long enough.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: Randy on February 02, 2011, 12:50:27 PM
Don't forget slapping them is fun, too.

This is true, they won't understand any more but you'll feel much much better. :-)
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 02, 2011, 12:58:21 PM
...and a great stress reliever. Just doesn't last long enough.

That's why you've got to keep doing it!
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 02, 2011, 01:00:36 PM
That's why you've got to keep doing it!

It's like a drug, isn't it...but then the DUmmies alway say, "If it feels good, do it."
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: DefiantSix on February 02, 2011, 01:01:13 PM
...and a great stress reliever. Just doesn't last long enough.

Pushing 'em down flights of stairs/off of cliffs/into mass graves is even an even better stress reliever.

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Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: jukin on February 02, 2011, 01:01:21 PM
Thank the Churc...er Cult of AlGore and the Obama EPA for not building power plants to keep up with population and the growing needs.

In fact, this rolling blackout will help Perry as he is fighting new CO2 poisonous gas regulations that the Obama Regime EPA is forcing on Texas.

1. Extremely cold weather---due to the Communist Democrat party lies of AGW.
2. No new power plants built---due to the Communist Democrat party lies of AGW.
3. Extremely high energy prices---due to the Communist Democrat party lies of AGW.
4. Rolling black outs---due to the Communist Democrat party lies of AGW.

Looks like Perry is in a real pickle here.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: micmac on February 02, 2011, 01:54:44 PM
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19. What does Rick Perry have to do with this? You want to help stop it? Turn off your electric heat.
   
That's what's causing this.

Whose mole is this?  By the way, I'm in North Texas and we have not had any blackouts in my neck of the woods.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: Carl on February 02, 2011, 02:12:13 PM
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Capnjack (2 posts)      Wed Feb-02-11 02:55 PM
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27. EPA Standards
 Actually, its due to EPA standards on air quality that don't allow extra generators to be run.
Has nothing to due with deregulation.
 

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MilesColtrane  (1000+ posts)        Wed Feb-02-11 03:03 PM
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29. TXU just assumed that it could continue to build coal power plants and had no plan...
 Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 03:08 PM by MilesColtrane
to replace them when they were shot down.

Real regulation and planning by the PUC could have averted the obvious coming showdown between power generating companies and people who want to breathe clean air.

Instead, Rick Perry got personally involved in ram-rodding those dirty coal plants, fast-tracking the permits and declaring "we're not going to let these bureaucrats jerk us around."
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: Airwolf on February 02, 2011, 02:17:53 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x330929

Government still regulates the electric industries and prevents new plants from being built.

Wasn't the Dem Governor before Arnold recalled because of rolling blackouts?

Shhh you're confusing them with facts.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: IassaFTots on February 02, 2011, 02:37:08 PM
I am in North Texas, lost power between 11:30 and 12:30.  Friends have had on and off 15 minute intervals, in Rowlett, Arlington, Carrollton and Lewisville.  My boss in Grand Prairie has not.  My work did, twice for 30 minutes. 

With the super cold and everyone home, more power is being used than normal, and it doesn't help that venues hosting SuperBowl events are exempt either.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: Mike220 on February 02, 2011, 02:53:35 PM
Here in Denton, a few of my friends have had their power go out off and on, but either I've been really lucky, or they rolled the blackout through my neighborhood while I was asleep.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: Alpha Mare on February 02, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
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MilesColtrane  (1000+ posts)        Wed Feb-02-11 03:03 PM
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29. TXU just assumed that it could continue to build coal power plants and had no plan...
 Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 03:08 PM by MilesColtrane
to replace them when they were shot down.

Real regulation and planning by the PUC could have averted the obvious coming showdown between power generating companies and people who want to breathe clean air.

Instead, Rick Perry got personally involved in ram-rodding those dirty coal plants, fast-tracking the permits and declaring "we're not going to let these bureaucrats jerk us around."

It's about control, you blithering twit.

Texas has achieved a 22% reduction in ozone and a 46% reduction in nitrous oxide emissions, compared to only 27% (NOx) for the rest of the country. There are no grandfathered facilities, even though the CAA allows them. 

Al Armendariz, the regional EPA director, won't say the air would be cleaner under his preferred regulations. He does however admit that he doesn't understand the system and it's too hard for him to police.

The EPA never had a problem with Texas' system- until 2010. 

We have 200 of these nearby, enough energy for 54,000 homes. But all of it goes to San Antonio.
(http://www.kristv.com/images/thumbnails/8DB26A6C934CEAF1C5D00B6DDF415900_250_250.jpg)
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: Wineslob on February 02, 2011, 04:10:57 PM
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Wasn't the Dem Governor before Arnold recalled because of rolling blackouts?

Partially. The other half of the equation was the fact that he took a 13 BILLION dollar surplus and spent it on "transmission lines" as a bailout for PG&E. I have yet to figure out if the State has made any money by owning the transmission lines. That was supposed to be the idea.
When asked if he should have returned the surplus to the taxpayers, after all it was our money, he said (paraphrasing) "It's the Governments money now"
At the same time he made himself quite the millionare.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: jukin on February 02, 2011, 04:16:27 PM
It's about control, you blithering twit.

Texas has achieved a 22% reduction in ozone and a 46% reduction in nitrous oxide emissions, compared to only 27% (NOx) for the rest of the country. There are no grandfathered facilities, even though the CAA allows them. 

Al Armendariz, the regional EPA director, won't say the air would be cleaner under his preferred regulations. He does however admit that he doesn't understand the system and it's too hard for him to police.

The EPA never had a problem with Texas' system- until 2010. 

We have 200 of these nearby, enough energy for 54,000 homes. But all of it goes to San Antonio.
(http://www.kristv.com/images/thumbnails/8DB26A6C934CEAF1C5D00B6DDF415900_250_250.jpg)

So that works out to 270 homes for each windmill. That means that we only need 560,000 of them to assure unreliability for all of Americas homes.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 02, 2011, 04:25:52 PM
So that works out to 270 homes for each windmill. That means that we only need 560,000 of them to assure unreliability for all of Americas homes.

You can make that 490,000 needed...heard on the radio yesterday that 11% of American homes are empty.

Ain't no frigging way you're going to convince me that one of those things will supply all the electricity needs for 270 fully electric homes....even on a good day.
Title: Re: I just want to thank Rick Perry and all Texas Republicans for the rolling blacko
Post by: GOBUCKS on February 02, 2011, 05:20:42 PM
So that works out to 270 homes for each windmill. That means that we only need 560,000 of them to assure unreliability for all of Americas homes.
270 homes per windmill, when the wind is blowing, and when the windmill isn't shut down, at several times the cost of normally generated power.
Whenever I go by one of those silly windmill farms, while the wind is blowing, it always seems half of them aren't turning. And don't place any of them where a moonbat can see them.