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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on January 30, 2011, 05:15:01 PM
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In this thread the DUmbasses discuss a sheriff's department requiring professional appearance in their officers. For a big segment of the DUmp, "professional appearance" is fighting words. They hate being forced to wear those paper caps at Burger King.
The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 02:37 PM
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Sheriff bans officers from having tattoos and gold teeth
Officers at a Florida police force have been told that they are not permitted to have visible tattoos or gold teeth.
The new policy at Broward Sheriff's Office also forbids piercings and 'body mutilation'.
It is believed that deputies at the Fort Lauderdale force with a gold-toothed grin will now have to pay to have the expensive dentistry removed if they are to keep their job.
Gold or platinum veneers for decorative reasons are strictly not allowed under the new rules, but officers who can prove they have caps or fillings for dental purposes will be permitted to keep them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x309035
Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 03:01 PM
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4. Is it okay to have diamonds in your teeth??
No. But you can have diamonds on the soles of your shoes.
onethatcares (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 03:21 PM
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5. You can bet this is gonna go over real good with the force
yep, instead of worrying about how clean the guns are, they're gonna be wearing long sleeves in July/August/September, you know, the coolest months of the year in sweaty Floriduh.
chowhound (36 posts) Sun Jan-30-11 05:14 PM
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29. i don't get that attitude of
i don't get to have it therefore i don't care that you lost it. ie:
so, i dont get to wear piercings therefore i dont care that you dont
so, i dont get vacations therefore i dont care that you lost yours
so, i dont get health care therefore i dont care that you lost yours
so, i dont get a raise therefore how dare you go on strike to get one
it's this defining what others should be allowed to have based on what you settled for. it's an attitude that i hear allot of that i dont get.
it's more of that saying 1st they came for..... etc. no offense to anyone but i think we need to stop responding that way. it fuels the race to the bottom.
what you say your boss just dropped your salary to 1$ a day? so, that's all I get.. such is life.
Confusious (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #29
35. Really. Tattoos are the equal of vacation, retirement and pay
OK.
Edweird (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #29
38. No, that's not really the point.
I don't believe it's unreasonable to expect professionals to maintain a professional appearance. Do you? I brought up the fact that I have to wear what I wear in response to the 'oh they'll be HOT in the summer' statement. M<y response is
that they will learn to cope with it just like I have.
Not being allowed to have visible tattoos or piercings is the least of the restrictions on a police officer's life. There are all sorts of restrictions on what you are allowed to do and who you are allowed to associate with. In other words, they even dictate who they can and cannot be friends with. That's part of being in law enforcement.
Xicano (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 03:58 PM
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8. Nothing spells freedom better than non autonomy over one's own body.
"Land of the Free!"
Vickers (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 04:15 PM
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12. They can still do it.
They just won't have a job with the sheriff's office. I live down here and have never seen a cop with gold teeth.
Xicano (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Telling someone they will lose their job if they use gold on their teeth or tattoo their skin
Is no different in principle than telling a woman she will lose her job if she gets pregnant.
In both cases the employer is restricting the right of autonomy over one's own body as a condition of employment.
Both are totally repugnant to the principle of "Land of the Free"
Vickers (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. So you STILL equate pregnancy with tattoos and gold teeth?
cynatnite (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 04:48 PM
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17. No where near the same thing at all...
Besides, they have had the same requirements for the military for years. This is not a big deal at all.
Xicano (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 04:48 PM
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18. "Restricting autonomy over one's own body as a condition of employment"
What part of that do you not understand?
Well, DUmmy Xicano, for many years I've felt that any good employee has the attitude that the company sort of owns his ass. I guess you'd call that restricting his autonomy over his body.
Taitertots (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 05:19 PM
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30. This is all about limiting certain groups presence in the police department. This is all about blocking anyone who is remotely counter culture from being able to be represented in the police force. This is all about creating an ideological purity in the police force.
Uh...DUmmy..a "counter culture" police force sort of defeats the purpose of having a police force, doesn't it?
Taitertots (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 05:47 PM
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37. One man (or women)'s opinion
It is certainly about limiting a certain group of people from being represented in the police force. Whether or not it is counter culture (My opinion) or just a different culture (your opinion) doesn't really matter.
Uh...DUmmy Taitertots..there are lots of groups who shouldn't be represented on the police force. How about drug users? How about nitwits with gold grillz on their teeth? Should cops wear saggy uniform pants?
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onethatcares (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 03:21 PM
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5. You can bet this is gonna go over real good with the force military
yep, instead of worrying about how clean the guns are, they're gonna be wearing long sleeves in July/August/September, you know, the coolest months of the year in sweaty Floriduh. butt plugs in the shower
Wait... what are we talking about?
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Most jobs, including office jobs, don't want to see your tattoos. It looks kind of trashy having all of your tattoos hanging out when you're in a professional setting. Just sayin'....
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Even the military has cracked down on visible tattoos. Decorative veneers aren't allowed either, along with piercings. I remember back in the mid 80s a lot of Sailors were piercing their left ear. Most of the commands were coming down on them pretty hard.
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You have the right to remain silent...
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You have the right to remain silent...
silent and blinded.
I added Bawney Fwank to my previous post. They both would make upstanding cops, don't you think?
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silent and blinded.
I added Bawney Fwank to my previous post. They both would make upstanding cops, don't you think?
Anything you say can and will be used.....
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The one primitive is right. The military does not want visible tattoos and the ones who already have them have been grandfathered. As far as the piercings the jewelery is the problem as it presents a safety hazard.
And I just find the gold teeth gross.
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Most jobs, including office jobs, don't want to see your tattoos. It looks kind of trashy having all of your tattoos hanging out when you're in a professional setting. Just sayin'....
Not to mention being able to communicate in a professional manner. I was in on a phone interview the other day. We called the guy, whose resume was fairly impressive, at 10am EST. The guy knew he was going to get the call at 10am. (we went thru an employment agency)
He answered the phone "What up?".
I asked if I was speaking to xyz and he confirmed that he was xyz. I identified myself and told him thank you for the interest in the position, but someone that answers a phone interview call with "What up?" is not the kind of person we wish to hire and hung up.
And these people wonder why they can't get a job.
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it's more of that saying 1st they came for..... etc. no offense to anyone but i think we need to stop responding that way. it fuels the race to the bottom.
Too late moran, y'all are lower than earth worms already!
onethatcares (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 03:21 PM
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5. You can bet this is gonna go over real good with the force
yep, instead of worrying about how clean the guns are, they're gonna be wearing long sleeves in July/August/September, you know, the coolest months of the year in sweaty Floriduh.
Yep! Their gonna worry more about their shirt than they are about whether their gun jams when they're lookin' down the barrel of a gun totin' criminal!
Gimme a break! Seems to me, our Military personnel are doin' it in the ****in' desert, I think our cops can manage in it Florida, the most even day to day climate in America! I know cops that would give their left nut to work there, even if they had to wear a ****in' parka!
Not being allowed to have visible tattoos or piercings is the least of the restrictions on a police officer's life. There are all sorts of restrictions on what you are allowed to do and who you are allowed to associate with. In other words, they even dictate who they can and cannot be friends with. That's part of being in law enforcement.
Really? First I've heard of this! Wonder how I seem to know so many Deputies, cause I'm not exactly considered on the A-list with the city council?
Xicano (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 04:34 PM
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14. Telling someone they will lose their job if they use gold on their teeth or tattoo their skin
Is no different in principle than telling a woman she will lose her job if she gets pregnant.
Uh, ya can't work at Home Depot sportin' that shit either, there DUmbNutz! I guess they're against freedom, too! I got news for ya sport, there's more than just a couple businesses who really frown on ya comin' to work lookin' like a circus freak! Equatin' the beauty of life in the incubator with gold teeth and Tats is a stretch even for a DUmmie, isn't it? Oh, I forgot, y'all think pregnancy is the nastiest thing on earth! So nasty, ya kill as many kids as ya can every year and call it "birth" control! My Bad!!!!
Taitertots (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 05:19 PM
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30. This is all about limiting certain groups presence in the police department. This is all about blocking anyone who is remotely counter culture from being able to be represented in the police force. This is all about creating an ideological purity in the police force.
Hmmmmm, not allowin' criminals or those that look like 'em to control the population who needs to respect them is some how Racist, right? Gotcha! I know some tattoo wearin', gold toothed grinnin', mangy mother****er tellin' me what to do will go over just fine! After all, he'd just be representin' the "counter culture"! I have no idea what the **** that is, but hey, you must be right, you post at the mostest, smartest, place on the internet!
Ya know, it could be about wantin' the police force to be held to just a little higher standard than the local crack addicted gangsta, ya think? Naw, that couldn't be it!
And y'all wonder why you're made fun of 24/7/365! Keep up the good work! I'm sure there's gotta be somethin' lower than earth worms! I have faith in ya, you'll find it eventually!
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The DUmmies have no concept of a professional appearance.
They think you should be able to cover yourself with tats, have hair down to your ass, and sport tie dyed t-shirts everywhere you go.
:whatever:
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I still can't get past Taitortots. The police force must exactly reflect all the demographics, oddities, weirdness, and quirks of the town and city? So in his mind, the police force must have representative serial killers, drug addicts, drunk drivers, petty thiefs, grand larceny thiefs, check bouncers and wife beaters?
God, the DUmmies are dumb.
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The DUmmies have no concept of a professional appearance.
They think you should be able to cover yourself with tats, have hair down to your ass, and sport tie dyed t-shirts everywhere you go.
:whatever:
Don't forget the 15 rings pierced thru your lower lip, nose, eyebrow, ear, I can't go on without gettin' downright gross!!!!
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I still can't get past Taitortots. The police force must exactly reflect all the demographics, oddities, weirdness, and quirks of the town and city? So in his mind, the police force must have representative serial killers, drug addicts, drunk drivers, petty thiefs, grand larceny thiefs, check bouncers and wife beaters?
God, the DUmmies are dumb.
In the DUmp, that sentiment probably goes back to BJ Clinton saying he wanted his Cabinet to "look like America". Affirmative action is more important than competence. I never did understand what part of America resembles Janet Reno.
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In the DUmp, that sentiment probably goes back to BJ Clinton saying he wanted his Cabinet to "look like America". Affirmative action is more important than competence. I never did understand what part of America resembles Janet Reno.
There is talk about suing Governor Kasich in Ohio because he didn't include any people of color in his administration.
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Yes, because it gives the public a sense of security and respect when Officer Friendly looks like THIS:
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Okay, maybe in San Freaksicko this might go over, but that's about it.
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I never did understand what part of America resembles Janet Reno.
The Castro District of San Francisco?
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Yes, because it gives the public a sense of security and respect when Officer Friendly looks like THIS:
(http://cdn.epicski.com/0/05/057b34a6_joker-face-tattoo1.jpg)
Okay, maybe in San Freaksicko this might go over, but that's about it.
Hope that's a chick. That face would be tough to shave.
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Hope that's a chick. That face would be tough to shave.
That's it! I'm not comin' back to this thread!!!!!
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Hope that's a chick. That face would be tough to shave.
Kinda looks like Alfred E. Newman during a gay-pride bacchanalia.
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 05:19 PM
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30. This is all about limiting certain groups presence in the police department. This is all about blocking anyone who is remotely counter culture from being able to be represented in the police force. This is all about creating an ideological purity in the police force.
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-30-11 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #34
37. One man (or women)'s opinion
It is certainly about limiting a certain group of people from being represented in the police force. Whether or not it is counter culture (My opinion) or just a different culture (your opinion) doesn't really matter.
:lmao:
Taitertots is trying to say it's racist but if he does ..... then HE is the racist!! That is too damn funny watching a DUmmy try to tip toe around something and get someone else to say what he's thinking.
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KC