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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: yesyesyesno on January 29, 2011, 09:32:00 PM
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This is what Obama has spent almost $2M (so far) to hide.
(http://i.imgur.com/KAE8l.jpg)
Here's a close-up of the top of the document where you can plainly read his name and his parent's names, etc....
(http://i.imgur.com/JWbk6.jpg)
A British history buff was asked if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961.
After only a few minutes of research, he called back and said "Sir Edward F. Lavender†Note the same name near the bottom of the photo above.
Source(s): “ Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library."
And here’s a close-up of the bottom of the document where you can read "Coast Providence of Kenya " and the
official signature of the Deputy Registrar.....
(http://i.imgur.com/LcRn4.jpg)
The above document is a "Certified Copy of Registration of Birth", but below is a copy of the actual Certificate of Birth...
the real-deal legal kind of certificate.
The Mombasa Registrar of Births has testified that Obama's birth certificate from Coast Province General Hospital in
Mombasa is genuine. This copy was obtained by Lucas Smith through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who recently got it
directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa , Kenya . Here it is.....
(http://i.imgur.com/NRNsW.jpg)
Note the footprint!!
The local Muslim Imam in Mombasa named Barack with his Muslim middle name Hussein so his official name on this certificate is Barack Hussein Obama II.
The grandmother of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. reveals the story of his birth in Mombasa , Kenya , a seaport, after his mother suffered labor pains while swimming at ocean beach in Mombasa
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"On August 4, 1961 Obama's mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa , Kenya .
Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy. It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obama’s went to the beach to cool off. While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial
General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA!). Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth."
Letter from Kitau in Mombasa , Kenya ......
"I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya . I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put out by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the "copy" of the original was ordered. I stress the word "copy". My copy also has republic of Kenya . So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic at the time of Obama's
birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.
The birth certificate is genuine. I assure you it will be authenticated by a forensic auditor. We are very proud Obama was born here. We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother. They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets.
Fortunately they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at the Mombasa hospital with the hospital in the back ground.
It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.
I encourage anyone to come here and visit. I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as well as
my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted. God Bless. Kitau"
Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro.
(http://i.imgur.com/1eGX5.jpg)
This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi
school inJakarta, Indonesia , shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name
Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.
Name: Barry Soetoro
Religion: Islam
Nationality: Indonesian
(http://i.imgur.com/tVJJK.jpg)
PART 2:
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the
group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's
college transcripts from Occidental College ...
The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a
foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released
by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the
Superior Court of California . The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial
aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program.
To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
*(Do not bother with Snopes it's funded by George Soros.)*
Here are the qualifications:
*The Fulbright Foreign Student Program enables graduate students, young professionals, and artists from abroad to research and study in the United States for one year or longer.
*The Fulbright U.S. Student Program offers fellowships for U.S. graduating college seniors, graduate students, young professionals and artists to study or conduct research abroad for one academic year.
http://fulbright.state.gov/grants/student-program/non-us-citizen.html
Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya , here we see that there is
no record of him ever applying for US citizenship..
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation
of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000
in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block
disclosure of any of his personal records.
Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided
to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.
yyyn.
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Modified at poster's request. - Mrs E.
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I honestly don't know what to think BUT I find it hard to believe no 1 knows the truth, and why aren't they speaking out?
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I typically don't bother with Snopes, but where is the evidence that its Soros controlled?
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Snopes receives funding from an undisclosed source. The source is undisclosed because Snopes refuses to disclose that source.
The Democratic Alliance, a funding channel for uber-Leftist (Marxist) Billionaires (George Soros etc.), direct funds to an “Internet Propaganda Arm†pushing these views. The Democratic Alliance has been reported to instruct Fundees to not disclose their funding source.
I'll replace the word owned with heavily funded. For some reason the modify button is missing on the original post!
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Despite all the "evidence" presented here, the Supreme Court's decision not to pursue this matter in December 08 and January 09 basically left this "issue" a moot point.
Obama is president. He is in the White House. That will not change.
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What's going to happen next year when states have laws in place that prevent a candidate from appearing on a ballot unless they are able to present a long-form birth certificate? Several states, including Texas, are working in that direction. It won't matter much in Texas where all the EC points go to the winning candidate, but what about where they may split?
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You realize that any "evidence" Oily Taint and the rest of the "nirther" crowd brings forth is at best highly suspect, do you not?
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I'm not a birther, but you'd think that presenting a long-form birth certificate would be required to become President. A few years ago my son needed a birth certificate to play little league soccer. I went to the registrar's office and got a short form certificate since it was cheaper. The soccer league wouldn't accept it. They said it had to be the long form.
So, in essence, you only need a short form birth certificate to be President of the United States, but by God, you'd better have a long form if you want to play soccer.
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To play soccer? That's nuts.
And there's this ridiculous proposal...
Hawaii Bill To Charge $100 For Obama Birth Records (http://news.mwza.com/politics/hawaii-bill-to-charge-100-for-obama-birth-records/1130/)
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What's going to happen next year when states have laws in place that prevent a candidate from appearing on a ballot unless they are able to present a long-form birth certificate? Several states, including Texas, are working in that direction. It won't matter much in Texas where all the EC points go to the winning candidate, but what about where they may split?
I think are 10 or so states that are considering similar bills.
There are 4 reasons why I think Obama has kept his birth records hidden.
1. He isn't a US citizen.
2. He isn't listed as black.
3. His handlers hope that the right will continue to make an issue of it in 2012.
4. All of the above.
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Well, it would be good for the right to continue to attack this issue next year since a poll last year showed only 42% believe he is even a US citizen. I'm not saying use it as a primary wedge issue, but keep that 58% going and you stand a pretty good shot at making them think when they go to the polls.
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I don't know about "good" but some of us would like an honest answer without the theatrics from both sides.
Raise your hand if you know what a Kenyan birth certificate from 1961 is actually supposed to look like.
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I don't know about "good" but some of us would like an honest answer without the theatrics from both sides.
Raise your hand if you know what a Kenyan birth certificate from 1961 is actually supposed to look like.
(http://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/obama-raises-hand.jpg)
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:rimshot:
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Zombo.com ... hehe ... how 'bout 0dumbo.com?
0dumbo.com Welcome, to 0dumbo.com
You can do anything at 0dumbo.com ... anything at all.
With or without a birth certificate ...
at 0dumbo.com
Welcome! ...
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(http://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/obama-raises-hand.jpg)
:lol: Gee, thanks, you just made me spit beer out of my nose and all over my squad car!
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Why spend 2 million dollars to not produce a long-form birth certificate?
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Why spend 2 million dollars to not produce a long-form birth certificate?
Only one reason I can think of....
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Only one reason I can think of....
And that's why I'm on the fence about this issue and refuse to call the birthers kooks.
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Several issues have made me wonder IF 0bamao is truly a US citizen.
1.) The actual Hawaiian birth certificate;
2.) The fact that he attended grade school in Jakarta, where he would have been REQUIRED to be a citizen thereof (essentially voiding his US Citizenship if he really ever was);
3.) his college transcripts and what they may state;
4.) the massive amounts of money he's used to keep all of them secret;
5.) The executive order he signed keeping them classified.
With all of those in mind, I'm just not sure that he's entitled to be our President. Too much stuff being tucked away and hidden. Now, had he been more forthcoming, these issues would have never arisen.
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Several issues have made me wonder IF 0bamao is truly a US citizen.
1.) The actual Hawaiian birth certificate;
2.) The fact that he attended grade school in Jakarta, where he would have been REQUIRED to be a citizen thereof (essentially voiding his US Citizenship if he really ever was);
3.) his college transcripts and what they may state;
4.) the massive amounts of money he's used to keep all of them secret;
5.) The executive order he signed keeping them classified.
With all of those in mind, I'm just not sure that he's entitled to be our President. Too much stuff being tucked away and hidden. Now, had he been more forthcoming, these issues would have never arisen.
no shit.
You try to hide something that hard and there must be something to hide.
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Several issues have made me wonder IF 0bamao is truly a US citizen.
1.) The actual Hawaiian birth certificate;
2.) The fact that he attended grade school in Jakarta, where he would have been REQUIRED to be a citizen thereof (essentially voiding his US Citizenship if he really ever was);
3.) his college transcripts and what they may state;
4.) the massive amounts of money he's used to keep all of them secret;
5.) The executive order he signed keeping them classified.
With all of those in mind, I'm just not sure that he's entitled to be our President. Too much stuff being tucked away and hidden. Now, had he been more forthcoming, these issues would have never arisen.
Why isn't any of that info you stated above part of the public record? we're talking President here and their background should be made public.
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Why isn't any of that info you stated above part of the public record? we're talking President here and their background should be made public.
Yeah, like me when I enlisted as a f'n E-1 private slick-sleeve in the US Army. I had to produce EVERYTHING. He's the CinC, but he's immune? BULLSHIT!
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Yeah, like me when I enlisted as a f'n E-1 private slick-sleeve in the US Army. I had to produce EVERYTHING. He's the CinC, but he's immune? BULLSHIT!
I know, the highest job in the US Government.
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:lol: Gee, thanks, you just made me spit beer out of my nose and all over my squad car!
^5 for at least being an honest cop...lol.
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^5 for at least being an honest cop...lol.
I'm still trying to get around the whole beer with donuts thing. :-)
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I'm still trying to get around the whole beer with donuts thing. :-)
Hey, I've been to college, I can handle it. And they're both made with yeast, anyway.
But seriously, if all these state election officials can agree he's legit, well...but let's get right down to it. I don't have an issue with Obama so much as I do with the POLICIES he puts forth, and don't kid yourself--if he was out of office tomorrow, Biden and the Democrats would still be trying to push the same bullshit.
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Why isn't any of that info you stated above part of the public record? we're talking President here and their background should be made public.
My question and my sentiment exactly!! GWBs & J F'n Kerry's college transcripts were in the light of day....
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I'm not entirely sure the way things work - but as I understand it , once a person is elected to POTUS - there's no way to remove them short of them committing a crime while in office. Thus it's pretty much a moot point. Not to diminish the seriousness of a non-natural born citizen assuming office but there's not a great deal that can be done even if this if found to be true at this stage.
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I'm not entirely sure the way things work - but as I understand it , once a person is elected to POTUS - there's no way to remove them short of them committing a crime while in office. Thus it's pretty much a moot point. Not to diminish the seriousness of a non-natural born citizen assuming office but there's not a great deal that can be done even if this if found to be true at this stage.
Yup. History will show that he was the 44th President, that he served one (God, I hope ONLY one) term, and, of course, that he was a socialist intent on centralizing virtually all power within the federal government. The fact that he's half-black, etc, etc, is all incidental. His policies suck, he's lazy, and he's a liar.
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He may have been born in Hawaii, but I refuse to call him an American since he doesn't like anything about America.
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I think he is hiding something BIG but one thing that libs have always brought up and makes me really wonder; Wouldn't Hillary have found out the truth when trying to get the dem nom and used it against him? What are our thoughts on that?
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OK, now does anyone think the CIA and or FBI knows the truth? and if so why not release any info about it?
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OK, now does anyone think the CIA and or FBI knows the truth? and if so why not release any info about it?
I dunno I honestly would think if there was anything to this, Hillary would have dug it up and drummed him out of the primaries.
I could be wrong but, I just don't buy into a conspiracy over this.
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I dunno I honestly would think if there was anything to this, Hillary would have dug it up and drummed him out of the primaries.
I could be wrong but, I just don't buy into a conspiracy over this.
Like I said I'm on the fence, why spend 2 million to not produce your long form birth certificate? but then like you said why wouldn't Hillary or anyone in Government go after him on this issue if they had evidence?
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Like I said I'm on the fence, why spend 2 million to not produce your long form birth certificate? but then like you said why wouldn't Hillary or anyone in Government go after him on this issue if they had evidence?
unlesssssssssssss there was some shit on Bill/Hillary that would have really embarrassed them.......something like Foster or whoever it was that was found dead :fuelfire:
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Its not just the Birth Certificate. What about the college records? What about the bio? What else is he hiding?
As if that wasnt enough ... !?
Who the hell is this marxist community organizer and where did he come from ??
Anybody remember the millions in foreign donations? And the campaign promises to deconstruct this country?
I am nobody ... do you hear me? But how the hell does nobody piece this together and say ... wait a minute ...
this puzzle ... this thing does not look good, let alone look to be "presidential" material.
C'mon folks ... please. Dont tell me that me, and millions like me are weird to conclude that something doesnt smell right in Denmark ...
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Well even if something did come up and prove some of these theories, it would be deemed racism by the libs and he would get away with it ::)
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Well even if something did come up and prove some of these theories, it would be deemed racism by the libs and he would get away with it ::)
Thats prob why the Hildebeast steered clear of it ...
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Thats prob why the Hildebeast steered clear of it ...
I think she was made an "offer she couldn't refuse".
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maybe this is why Obama wants a killswitch :naughty:
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Well, if there's ANY credence whatsoever to that off the wall article I posted a few days back, that MIGHT be a start at explaining it. But, as a few others, I sit on the fence. I'm not a hard core "Birther", but there are too many unanswered questions]
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Well, if there's ANY credence whatsoever to that off the wall article I posted a few days back, that MIGHT be a start at explaining it. But, as a few others, I sit on the fence. I'm not a hard core "Birther", but there are too many unanswered questions]
Thor, where's the article you posted the other day? I must've missed it.
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To me, his actions alone have demonstrate that he is what I thought he was all along, a communist Muslim. His actions he can't hide but enough money and lawyers can keep the paperwork hidden.... at least until the damage he's planned for America is done.
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And as I understand it, both of them have had their law licenses revoked.
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Like I said I'm on the fence, why spend 2 million to not produce your long form birth certificate?
Because you have something to hide; something quite damning to justify such an expense.
Certainly there are those who know the truth, but why they aren't talking is anybodys guess. Maybe in a few decades the truth will out.
For me, The 1 demonstrates he isn't an American on a regular basis.