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Title: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: franksolich on January 29, 2011, 07:16:50 PM
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no_hypocrisy  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-29-11 10:27 AM
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Frozen rain gutters

I'm in New Jersey. We've had seven snow storms in one month.

Our house is three stories if you count the attic. The rain gutters are clogged and covered with between 1 and 1-1/2 inches of solid ice.

I'm concerned about how much weight the roof can hold and with the ice-on-the-gutters/roof's edges, the snow has nowhere to go even if the temperature goes above freezing. And the roof is original, meaning the one the house was built with in the Forties.

Is it a good idea to hire someone to get rid of the ice?

Yeah, it probably would be a good idea to hire someone to get rid of the ice.

But since you're a primitive sympathetic to the travails of the blue-collar working man, be sure he's a union-card-carrying professional, not one of these cash-under-the-table guys.

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Wash. state Desk Jet  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-29-11 12:12 PM
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1. Check with your home insurance agent about your concern.

That is always a good idea when you can get to it easy enough but yer talking 20-25 maybe 30 feet high.
This time of year you are talking a major expense . Any other problems like that in your neighborhood ?

And have you noticed any water damage walls and windows or apparent sagging ceilings?

Talk to your insurance agent ,if you are terribly worried have a roofer look it over on a advisement estimate.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: Chris_ on January 29, 2011, 07:22:54 PM
I recommend a blowtorch. :whistling:
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: dandi on January 29, 2011, 07:29:49 PM
Ask HAARP if they'll microwave it for you. They're always looking to fine tune their targeting systems.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: longview on January 29, 2011, 07:45:28 PM
I've never had snow and ice build up unless there was debris in the gutters.  Never had debris in the gutters unless it was on a house that I moved into during winter.

Will snow just build up and stay in NJ?

I'm renting a house in town right now to be close to a job.  I spoke to the landlord about the twigs and leaves in the gutters in the late fall.  She thanked me and said she'd get them cleaned.  After a couple snows, I offered to clean them if she would supply an extension ladder.  She thanked me and said one would be dropped off.  Nada.

Irritates me when people don't maintain their things.  We are so fortunate and have so much.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: Vagabond on January 29, 2011, 07:57:15 PM
My neighbor's gutter tore the entire fascia and eve of the house below the roof off last winter here in Maryland.   They aren't exactly outdoorsy sorts, and their gutters were clogged. 

It's been a year now and they have made no attempt at repairs.  I expect the damage to be catastrophic to their roof some time this summer.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 29, 2011, 08:33:25 PM
It's a wonder the DUmmie hasn't torn them off and sold them for scrap metal.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 29, 2011, 08:53:13 PM
I recommend a blowtorch.
Never use a blowtorch unless it's a tile or slate roof. Otherwise, the DUmmy should carefully pour gasoline over the ice, and light it. A slower, more exact method would be to break the ice with a 16-pound sledgehammer.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: Doc Savage on January 29, 2011, 08:56:25 PM
When I was a kid in NH, we had to clean  the gutters every fall.  Even that was not enough to stop ice dams forcing water up under the shingles and thru the roof.  My dad had copper sheeting, about 3 feet of it running from the edge of the roof back.  Solved the problem.  Dad was up chopping ice one winter with a hatchet when he fell and broke his heel.  THen came the copper.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: IassaFTots on January 29, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
I don't have gutters.  One less thing to maintain. 
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: PatriotGame on January 29, 2011, 11:09:34 PM
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no_hypocrisy  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jan-29-11 10:27 AM
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Frozen rain gutters

I'm in New Jersey. We've had seven snow storms in one month.

Our house is three stories if you count the attic. The rain gutters are clogged and covered with between 1 and 1-1/2 inches of solid ice.

I'm concerned about how much weight the roof can hold and with the ice-on-the-gutters/roof's edges, the snow has nowhere to go even if the temperature goes above freezing. And the roof is original, meaning the one the house was built with in the Forties.

Is it a good idea to hire someone to get rid of the ice?

Just use a little extra heat:


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Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: PatriotGame on January 29, 2011, 11:10:56 PM
Ask HAARP if they'll microwave it for you. They're always looking to fine tune their targeting systems.

Must re-fund VRWC Black-Ops chem trail de-icing program...
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: PatriotGame on January 29, 2011, 11:12:13 PM
It's a wonder the DUmmie hasn't torn them off and sold them for scrap metal.

Hmmm...gutter bongs...
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 30, 2011, 05:13:54 AM
Never use a blowtorch unless it's a tile or slate roof. Otherwise, the DUmmy should carefully pour gasoline over the ice, and light it. A slower, more exact method would be to break the ice with a 16-pound sledgehammer.

'Course, he could get a bunch of Ivory Snow to mix with that gasoline first.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: NHSparky on January 30, 2011, 05:47:35 AM
When I was a kid in NH, we had to clean  the gutters every fall.  Even that was not enough to stop ice dams forcing water up under the shingles and thru the roof.  My dad had copper sheeting, about 3 feet of it running from the edge of the roof back.  Solved the problem.  Dad was up chopping ice one winter with a hatchet when he fell and broke his heel.  THen came the copper.

No gutters here either.  I've been checking the attic regularly for ice damming.

Even then I'm still raking the roof.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 30, 2011, 08:28:38 AM
I don't have gutters.  One less thing to maintain. 

From my own experiences in houses with and without them, I personally don't think they accomplish anything much.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: NHSparky on January 30, 2011, 08:30:39 AM
From my own experiences in houses with and without them, I personally don't think they accomplish anything much.

The only thing they'd accomplish is either flooding my basement or coating my driveway in a nice sheet of ice.
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 30, 2011, 09:59:53 AM
The only thing they'd accomplish is either flooding my basement or coating my driveway in a nice sheet of ice.

Where's your sense of adventure? :???: :tongue:
Title: Re: primitive has frozen rain gutters
Post by: AllosaursRus on January 30, 2011, 01:06:36 PM
No gutters here either.  I've been checking the attic regularly for ice damming.

Even then I'm still raking the roof.

No gutters here either. I installed some at the front door to keep "Toots" happy the first year I was here. Snow took 'em off the first winter. They're still layin' in one of my junk piles with all that stuff that "I'm sure I'm goin' to use someday"! hehe!