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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on January 28, 2011, 04:05:06 PM
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-28-11 05:02 PM
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OMFG - Tweety just condemned Bushco
and said these are US backed dictators who are falling and these events prove the Iraq war was not necessary.
OMFG, i have no idea what the DUmmie is talking about. :mental:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x295704
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OMFG, i have no idea what the DUmmie is talking about. :mental:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x295704
Nor do I.
There was no assurance democracy, or at least semi-democracy, was ever going to come to Iraq through the actions of the Iraqi people.
It took outsiders, led by George Bush, to do that.
Just as it took outsiders to liberate the slaves in the 1860s.
Or just as it took outsiders--in this case, the British colonizers--to outlaw the slave trade in Africa during the 1800s.
This idea that things get so bad, so intolerable, that the people overthrow a system is not universally true; one need only look at the 75-year socialist regime of Russia to see that. Tens of millions died, but they would've never rebelled unless without the prospect of outside help.
The primitives really need to read a history book or two, preferably one longer than 16 pages.
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It doesn't have to make sense. Just take two things loosely associated, put the desired spin on them, and voilà ! Liberal Talking Point.
Actually, Bush is in just as good a position to claim credit for it. You could say the liberation of Iraq is responsible for what is now a Domino Effect, inspiring neighboring countries to cast off their bonds. Sounds good to me.
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First off, I have to deduce who Tweety is. I'm assuming it's their pet name for one of the loonies on CNN or MSNBC.
Next, I think their "logic" goes like this:
1) People are rebelling against Mubaruk in Egypt;
2) Thus, Iraq war was unnecessary, because:
3) The Iraqis would have done so with Saddam Hussein
So, all countries are exactly the same as each other in the DUverse, and the fact that radical Islamists controlled by flat-out Muzzie terrorists are on a rampage in Egypt, not Jeffersonian revolutionaries, is unimportant to them.*
*Of course they are blind to the strategic value and need of the Iraq theater in the wider war against Islam. That Hussein was low-hanging fruit and next to our pretty much worst enemy after the PRC, Iran, that he was a significant state supporter of jihadist terrorism (it is pure CRAP that he didn't have multifarious ties to AQ, and anyone who thinks that Ansar-al-Islam in the north was somehow alone and unconnected to AQ is as pure ****ing idiot as there ever was), that he was always a constant threat to the Arabian peninsula and thus our supply of oil, and that we needed to, I mean HAD TO, make an example of at least one Islamic/Arab world police state after 9/11--Afghanistan was simply not enough, we needed to show that they would lose MORE than just their base, we had to show it is not safe to house AQ or any organization like AQ--none of this factors into their twisted little anti-America crumbs of brains.
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If Egypt goes to the Muslim Brotherhood it will prove Bush was right about the need for western nations to serve as mid-wife for newborn democracies in the ME.
But hey, why do anything meaningful when the flip of a coin will suffice.
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The primitives really need to read a history book or two, preferably one longer than 16 pages words.
Fixed it there, coach.
Don't want to make it too hard for them.
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Nor do I.
There was no assurance democracy, or at least semi-democracy, was ever going to come to Iraq through the actions of the Iraqi people.
It took outsiders, led by George Bush, to do that.
Just as it took outsiders to liberate the slaves in the 1860s.
Or just as it took outsiders--in this case, the British colonizers--to outlaw the slave trade in Africa during the 1800s.
This idea that things get so bad, so intolerable, that the people overthrow a system is not universally true; one need only look at the 75-year socialist regime of Russia to see that. Tens of millions died, but they would've never rebelled unless without the prospect of outside help.
The primitives really need to read a history book or two, preferably one longer than 16 pages.
Coach, ya never cease to amaze me how you can put into words how those of us normal, conservative, logically controlled humans, go about our lives. I have to tell ya, I don't think I've run into another of my brothers that have described what most of us here have in our hearts the way you do.
My compliments SIR, and y'all can go fishin' with me anytime!
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I'm not sure, but I think Tweetie is their love-name for O'Reilly, due ot his big forehead having a look sort of like the cartoon bird. If he said that he's on crack. Saddam had Iraq locked down to a degree dumbass American journalists are too stupid and ethnocentric to ever understand.
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I'm not sure, but I think Tweetie is their love-name for O'Reilly, due ot his big forehead having a look sort of like the cartoon bird. If he said that he's on crack. Saddam had Iraq locked down to a degree dumbass American journalists are too stupid and ethnocentric to ever understand.
It's Chris Matthews from this cartoon
(http://www.wiseacre-gardens.com/toons/tweety-hyde.gif)
Separated at birth?
(http://www.bet.com/Assets/BET/Published/image/jpeg/25d547cf-ef65-439a-1b92-cbdb60de6d01-news_fb_ChrisMatthews.jpg)
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It's Chris Matthews from this cartoon
(http://www.wiseacre-gardens.com/toons/tweety-hyde.gif)
Separated at birth?
(http://www.bet.com/Assets/BET/Published/image/jpeg/25d547cf-ef65-439a-1b92-cbdb60de6d01-news_fb_ChrisMatthews.jpg)
I thought it might be him, but he looks a shitload less like Tweety than Big-Head O'Reilly. Makes a whole lot more sense that Matthews would be saying something that profoundly stupid, though.
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OMFG, i have no idea what the DUmmie is talking about. :mental:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x295704
Neither does the DUmmie, hence the confusion. :-)
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I'm 100% sure that they mean Chrissy Matthews.