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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Karin on January 28, 2011, 03:25:59 PM
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masmdu (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:19 PM
Original message
Is P.C and multiculturalism an impediment to honest and open discussion of Islam's violent misogyny?
I find the treatment of women and girls in Islamic culture to be abhorent.
Begin with the universal truth that life is preferable to being murdered or abused. Then any culture that allows for the treatment of women found in Islamic culture is indeed obviously inferior, wrong, dangerous, and in need of change.
Does that make me a bigot?
As seen here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanis...
Increasingly Europeans find "hate speech" laws are being used to quash legitimate debate about this.
http://www.hudson-ny.org/1829/free-speech-on-trial-in-e...
masmdu (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Explain please?...A video of a woman being stoned to death is "rightwing propaganda"?
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. lol. no, the idea that such things can't be discussed because of "political correctness".
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 03:25 PM by Hannah Bell
like they're not discussed practically every damn day is the msm & even here at DU.
discussed a great deal more often than they happen, in fact.
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. so what? how does that stop you from discussing it? a discussion implies multiple
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 03:31 PM by Hannah Bell
points of view, if you want an amen chorus, go to the "bash the muslims" websites and spew.
(This came after a deleted message)
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. so what? no one is shutting down discussion. there are plenty of folks who will
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 03:41 PM by Hannah Bell
support your pov, as is clear to me from many such discussions at du.
you just want an amen chorus.
too bad; as i said before, if that's what you want, go elsewhere.
i've been called multiple names here; i don't find it an impediment to discussion.
if you can't take the heat, leave the kitchen.
masmdu (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. Well, you're wrong. They are shutting down the discussion. Did you follow the link?
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. & that has ****all to do with islam or any "violent misogyny".
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 03:49 PM by Hannah Bell
straw. yum yum
"bash the muslims" = the site for this conversation
bye bye
You don't actually own the joint, Hannah.
masmdu (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #14
22. BTW, how the hell can you have a "point of view" about stoning a woman to death?
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. btw; do you like your straw raw, or seasoned?
Trying to be oh so clever. Makes no sense.
masmdu (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #23
29. And, No, my OP is not about "Islams violent misogyn" It's about limit to the discussion of the topic
because of political correctness and multiculturalism. See the distinction?
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. lol. you really don't see how stupid what you just said is?
maybe a logic course would help.
She's such a stupid bitch.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:59 PM
Response to Original message
38. "PC" is what the right wing calls respect for other people. n/t
Thanks, Beth. You forgot your LOL.
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lol
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As I said in another thread, the Liberty Bell is more intelligent than Hannah Bell.
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The world of islam: Where men are nuts and women are livestock.
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. btw; do you like your straw raw, or seasoned?
Forget Carmen Sandiego. Where in the world is your mind, Hannah?
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Since you've been called every name out there, Hannah Bell, let me say plain what I think of you. Ignorant ****ing Bitch. And I would rejoice if you ended up in the hands of an Islamic nutbag.
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Time for Hannah Bell to get a reality check.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/deadfred821/Funny/man_punches_woman.gif)
And no, I do not endorse in any way violence towards women. But in HB's case (or any DUmmy) this is an exception. :wink:
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Hannah Bell at her marxist dialectic best. In her mind, US (or Israel) equals the stronger and therefore automatically the bad guy. Muslim equals weaker and therefore automatically good idea. Therefore anything the US (or Israel) does or perceives about Muslims is automatically while the Muslim is at least of absolved of any wrong. She is full of shit, but that is the depth of her ability to think.
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Time for Hannah Bell to get a reality check.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/deadfred821/Funny/man_punches_woman.gif)
And no, I do not endorse in any way violence towards women. But in HB's case (or any DUmmy) this is an exception. :wink:
It's not like they're really women, or at least, it's not like they WANT to be women. Some of them don't even want to be human.
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In one of her books Tammy Bruce was talking about how NOW usually marched and protested against men that abused women. Till the OJ trials came along. NOW didn't want to protest him because he was black. Because apparently being of a darker skin tone trumps wife beating/murdering.
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. so what? no one is shutting down discussion. there are plenty of folks who will
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 03:41 PM by Hannah Bell
support your pov, as is clear to me from many such discussions at du.
you just want an amen chorus.
too bad; as i said before, if that's what you want, go elsewhere.
i've been called multiple names here; i don't find it an impediment to discussion.
if you can't take the heat, leave the kitchen.
Hmmmmm.......I have an idea HannahDUmbBell, why don't ya run right over to Iran and have this discussion and see if it will be "open"? How 'bout Saudi Arabia?
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Hmmmmm.......I have an idea HannahDUmbBell, why don't ya run right over to Iran and have this discussion and see if it will be "open"? How 'bout Saudi Arabia?
We can get Bev Harris to start a fund drive to send her over.
We are just $10 away from doing away with stoning!
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We can get Bev Harris to start a fund drive to send her over.
We are just $10 away from doing away with stoning!
Can I hold out on my $10 for just one last stoning? O-)
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Can I hold out on my $10 for just one last stoning? O-)
Only if it's the dumber-than-the-Liberty-Bell primitve, and not one of these stonings: :stoner:
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Only if it's the dumber-than-the-Liberty-Bell primitve, and not one of these stonings: :stoner:
She's got my vote! :-)
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-28-11 03:59 PM
Response to Original message
38. "PC" is what the right wing calls respect for other people. n/t
Yeah. You're right Beth. ::)