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Title: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: bijou on January 28, 2011, 12:11:50 PM
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A RUSSIAN WOMAN WHO concealed her sister’s death accidentally set fire to her apartment while trying to bring the woman back to life.

Russia Today reports that the woman, who lives in Ekaterinburg in western Russia, had not notified authorities of her 71-year-old sister’s death.

Instead, she tried to preserve the body in petrol at her apartment.

On Tuesday night when she attempted to reanimate the corpse using electricity from the mains, the body caught fire. The woman, aged 69, suffered burns and smoke inhalation in the incident and is now recovering in hospital, according to RT.
Because we need more DIY zombie making attempts (http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/bizarre-frankenstein-style-reanimation-effort-caused-apartment-fire-2011-01/)
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: vesta111 on February 01, 2011, 05:45:31 AM
Because we need more DIY zombie making attempts (http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/bizarre-frankenstein-style-reanimation-effort-caused-apartment-fire-2011-01/)

Really Bijou, what about the storeys of the Haitians that poison people with a drug have them declared dead and dig them up before they suffocate and use them as zombie workers-slaves???

We have come a long way baby in bringing people back to life, Defilibraters, and the Techniques of bringing back to life those that have frozen by falling under the ice  or being caught out doors in freezing temperatures.

DIY reanimation of humans is nothing new, We have CPR and the Heimlich Maneuver that attests to that.

Sad that this person tried an unorthodox method to bring a loved one back to life, but when you think of it, all life savings methods were strange and untried at first.

Don't forget that non breathing baby's at birth were thrown into ice water to shock the heart to beat not that long ago.
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: MrsSmith on February 01, 2011, 08:04:04 AM
Really Bijou, what about the storeys of the Haitians that poison people with a drug have them declared dead and dig them up before they suffocate and use them as zombie workers-slaves???

We have come a long way baby in bringing people back to life, Defilibraters, and the Techniques of bringing back to life those that have frozen by falling under the ice  or being caught out doors in freezing temperatures.

DIY reanimation of humans is nothing new, We have CPR and the Heimlich Maneuver that attests to that.

Sad that this person tried an unorthodox method to bring a loved one back to life, but when you think of it, all life savings methods were strange and untried at first.

Don't forget that non breathing baby's at birth were thrown into ice water to shock the heart to beat not that long ago.
Unfortunately, those "brought back" by the Heimlich, CPR or AED must still be alive for it to work.  Once they're dead, they're dead.  Reanimation doesn't really describe it...  sorry, vesta. 
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 01, 2011, 10:59:18 AM
Unfortunately, those "brought back" by the Heimlich, CPR or AED must still be alive for it to work.  Once they're dead, they're dead.  Reanimation doesn't really describe it...  sorry, vesta. 

You do know you're basically trying to explain to a dachshund why the other stars move but Polaris doesn't, doncha?

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: MrsSmith on February 01, 2011, 11:17:45 AM
You do know you're basically trying to explain to a dachshund why the other stars move but Polaris doesn't, doncha?

 :popcorn:
Now that was mean.   :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: NHSparky on February 01, 2011, 11:27:40 AM
Now that was mean.   :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

You're right.  Dachshunds are actually rather intelligent.
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: vesta111 on February 01, 2011, 03:26:42 PM
Unfortunately, those "brought back" by the Heimlich, CPR or AED must still be alive for it to work.  Once they're dead, they're dead.  Reanimation doesn't really describe it...  sorry, vesta. 

I don't know about that, I cannot explain the experiences people have where they tell of looking down on them selves after being declared dead and scare the heck out of the doctors when they suddenly "come back" -----Lots of ethical and moral questions here, if the brain seems dead but the body lives on its own, are they dead, or visa verse?

 The good old Irish Wake of sitting up with a body for 3 days comes from people that have on occasion come back, and to make sure grave robbers wouldn't want  a not fresh body.   

BTW. why does the north star stay in one spot and the other stars move about??   Earth tilt???
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 01, 2011, 03:30:20 PM
Its' the Pole star, so being Polish it's too stubborn to move.  That's also why dachshunds fret about it, them being Germans and all.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: MrsSmith on February 01, 2011, 03:43:20 PM
Its' the Pole star, so being Polish it's too stubborn to move.  That's also why dachshunds fret about it, them being Germans and all.

 :popcorn:
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: **GASP**   :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: MrsSmith on February 01, 2011, 03:52:59 PM
I don't know about that, I cannot explain the experiences people have where they tell of looking down on them selves after being declared dead and scare the heck out of the doctors when they suddenly "come back" -----Lots of ethical and moral questions here, if the brain seems dead but the body lives on its own, are they dead, or visa verse?

 The good old Irish Wake of sitting up with a body for 3 days comes from people that have on occasion come back, and to make sure grave robbers wouldn't want  a not fresh body.   

BTW. why does the north star stay in one spot and the other stars move about??   Earth tilt???
There are a couple designations of "dead."  If the heart stops and won't start again, they are dead.  If the heart and other organs are still working, but the brain is gone, they are technically still alive, but when scans show no brain activity AT ALL, they are considered brain dead.  Doctors are no closer to God than any other human, they can mistake a coma for death.  However, if the heart has stopped and there has been no circulation of blood and oxygen in a body for a length of time (which can vary with the age of the person and the temperature of the body), there comes a time when death is certain.  Generally, if you've poured gas all over the body and let it sit for a few days with no circulation of blood and oxygen, you can be completely sure of the death...and no amount of electricity from any source, including a defib, will change that. 
Please, please don't ever try it at home, ok?
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: DefiantSix on February 01, 2011, 04:02:28 PM
...Generally, if you've poured gas all over the body and let it sit for a few days with no circulation of blood and oxygen, you can be completely sure of the death...and no amount of electricity from any source, including a defib, will change that. 
Please, please don't ever try it at home, ok?

Damn.  I was thinking it might be a good way to light DUmp monkey bonfires with.  :-)
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: dandi on February 01, 2011, 04:16:05 PM
Its' the Pole star, so being Polish it's too stubborn to move.  That's also why dachshunds fret about it, them being Germans and all.

 :popcorn:

Oh, damn....

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: MrsSmith on February 01, 2011, 04:24:17 PM
Damn.  I was thinking it might be a good way to light DUmp monkey bonfires with.  :-)
If you try it, use diesel, not gasoline.   :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Bizarre Frankenstein-style reanimation effort caused apartment fire
Post by: vesta111 on February 01, 2011, 04:40:45 PM
There are a couple designations of "dead."  If the heart stops and won't start again, they are dead.  If the heart and other organs are still working, but the brain is gone, they are technically still alive, but when scans show no brain activity AT ALL, they are considered brain dead.  Doctors are no closer to God than any other human, they can mistake a coma for death.  However, if the heart has stopped and there has been no circulation of blood and oxygen in a body for a length of time (which can vary with the age of the person and the temperature of the body), there comes a time when death is certain.  Generally, if you've poured gas all over the body and let it sit for a few days with no circulation of blood and oxygen, you can be completely sure of the death...and no amount of electricity from any source, including a defib, will change that. 
Please, please don't ever try it at home, ok?

My granddaughters cat died when she was 3-4 years old and she buried it in the back yard with its head exposed facing the house.  Just in case she told us, GOD may change His mind.

Some poor old woman in the South, not Maine, last year was found to be living with the body's of her twin sister and brother.  They had been staying in her living room for 15 years or so.  She told the police she needed someone to talk to.  Finally the town gave her permission to build a mausoleum on her land that is walk in so she and visit the caskets.  I wonder how long before her siblings are back in the house???

I started noticing this tradition in the Asian Cemetery's where they have a photo of the resident embedded under glass on the tomb stone.  Interesting this has not shown up this far north yet, perhaps the climate precludes that.  

Anyway, the kids and I were watching some Asian tourists taking rubbings of their Ancestors stones when a funeral procession marched past very moving the flags and robes of the mourners.  Then when they began to throw small firecrackers to scare off evil spirits, my oldest son says---Neat Mom, that's the way I want to go.

On a side note my Mom tells me she read a small piece about the changes in Ancestor worship in parts of China.   Seems parents are SUEING their children when they do not support them or come to visit them.  I wonder if this is a gentle hint to pay her more attention.?