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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Wretched Excess on April 06, 2008, 04:54:20 PM
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my3boyz Donating Member (853 posts) Sun Apr-06-08 05:47 PM
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I did not know that John McCain's son was in Iraq
Someone on another board posted a link from a New York Times article that said he did not want the article published. They said he does not want to discuss his son's service and thinks that the media should respect his son's privacy. Anyway, even though I'm 100% against this war, I do have a tad more respect for McCain than the rest of those damn chicken hawks that started this war. YES he is still wrong about the war but at least he did not dodge the war and his son did not dodge a war that his dad approves of. Having said that Obama is still going to kick McCain's butt in the general election. LOL
link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5408344)
look who just caught up. :whatever: actually, both sons could be in iraq by next year. this thread just popped up; I am curious as to how they handle this.
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Changenow (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 05:52 PM
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3. Do you have a link? nt
LOL! denial is a start. :-)
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You know, if we conservatives would just nominate John McCain, liberals would vote for him :whatever:
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Any minute now we should see a post claiming that it's all B.S. and he really isn't there or is in some 'cushy' position.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 05:57 PM
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4. Yep. He's a Marine. Enlisted, too. He's something like twenty years old, and
he's been in since he was eighteen. I'd be sick with worry.
ok, someone posted a link, so I assume they all believe it now . . . I keep waiting for someone to wish a calamity upon mccain's son. this thread has a very high potential for combustion.
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patrice Sun Apr-06-08 06:01 PM
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6. If this sort of thing Really matters, why do you suppose they're obeying Cheney???????? nt
what the HELL does this mean? :-) :rotf:
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Good news is for the next 8 years we wont have to hear how McCain should send his kids to war. :lmao:
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Good news is for the next 8 years we wont have to hear how McCain should send his kids to war. :lmao:
that appears to be slowly dawning on them. :-)
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hfojvt Sun Apr-06-08 06:06 PM
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9. His son wasn't in when he voted to start the war.
The only person that was true for was the Democrat Tim Johnson.
another post without a point. his sons joined the military knowing that there was a war in iraq, and knowing that they would in all likelihood be deployed into iraq. what's the difference? what actually happened is probably even more admirable.
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Good news is for the next 8 years we wont have to hear how McCain should send his kids to war. :lmao:
that appears to be slowly dawning on them. :-)
Looks like even fixa flat wont help them reinflate that argument :-)
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Red Zelda (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 06:10 PM
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11. No one in the family
works for the private sector. Gubmint checks are a McInsane tradition.
OMG!!
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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hfojvt Sun Apr-06-08 06:06 PM
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9. His son wasn't in when he voted to start the war.
The only person that was true for was the Democrat Tim Johnson.
another post without a point. his sons joined the military knowing that there was a war in iraq, and knowing that they would in all likelihood be deployed into iraq. what's the difference? what actually happened is probably even more admirable.
Chances are good he knew his boys were planning on a military career at the time so once again the primitives fail.
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Red Zelda (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 06:10 PM
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11. No one in the family
works for the private sector. Gubmint checks are a McInsane tradition.
OMG!!
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
**** you Red Zelda do you or did you have the courage to raise your right hand and enlist at any time? :bird:
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galaxy21 (243 posts) Sun Apr-06-08 06:10 PM
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12. I don't like Mccain but I hold him to a slightly higher standard than bush, cheney, rumsfeld...etc
He's ten times the man any of them will ever be.
He's still crazy though.
where did the insane thing come from? did I miss something? or is it an offshoot from "senile"?
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 06:15 PM
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14. Yep - McCain is wrong about a lot o things, but he does have integrity
I don't want him as President but I still think he's a decent old guy. I want Obama to win over him on the issues, not because of electoral BS. I don't like ti when people on DU are calling him a doddering old fool either - his age is an issue for me, but I don't believe he's senile or suchlike. And we shouldn't give the Republicans ammunition by resorting to snide insults that are unecessary.
my goodness. can't you just hear the gears grinding and stripping from here? :-) they are totally struggling with this one.
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galaxy21 (243 posts) Sun Apr-06-08 06:10 PM
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12. I don't like Mccain but I hold him to a slightly higher standard than bush, cheney, rumsfeld...etc
He's ten times the man any of them will ever be.
He's still crazy though.
where did the insane thing come from? did I miss something? or is it an offshoot from "senile"?
Try to keep up WE all repukes are insane by default DUmmy talking point 105.73 subsection A.
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a response to red zelda
anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 06:16 PM
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15. Flag admirals earn their 'gubmint checks'.
There's nothing wrong with a family tradition of military service, even if that's maybe a better qualifier for Sec. of Defense than the oval office.
where did all the nearly normal people come from today? :-)
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a response to red zelda
anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 06:16 PM
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15. Flag admirals earn their 'gubmint checks'.
There's nothing wrong with a family tradition of military service, even if that's maybe a better qualifier for Sec. of Defense than the oval office.
where did all the nearly normal people come from today? :-)
$kimmer keeps a few of them around so he can claim they are not all 100% moonbats.
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now there's nothing but *crickets chirping*.
:-)
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countdown till one of them hopes that he gets killed :whatever:
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countdown till one of them hopes that he gets killed :whatever:
it appears that they have evaluated the facts, considered the various implications of the issue relative to the big picture, carefully considered their options, and have decided to ignore the hell out of the whole thing. :-)
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hfojvt Sun Apr-06-08 06:06 PM
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9. His son wasn't in when he voted to start the war.
The only person that was true for was the Democrat Tim Johnson.
another post without a point. his sons joined the military knowing that there was a war in iraq, and knowing that they would in all likelihood be deployed into iraq. what's the difference? what actually happened is probably even more admirable.
If the kid is twenty now, and the war has been going on five years, then he'd have to enlist at fifteen?
:thatsright:
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So now we see that it doesn't matter to the stinking, damn dirty apes of DU if you serve or not or if your kids serve or not if your a conservative or anyone thats not batshit crazy with teh BDS.
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One of his older son's from a previous marriage was a pilot, and his oldest son with Cindy is in the Naval Academy and will graduate soon. The son in the academy would have had to start the process quite a time ago. So, to say that he had no idea that any of his children would go to war when voting is not true.
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The fact that McCain does not see fit to politicize his son's service seems to be as perplexing to the Dummis as Bush actually doing what he says he's going to do, in spite of negative poll numbers.
Can you name anyone on the Dem side who might do the same?
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Red Zelda (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 06:10 PM
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11. No one in the family
works for the private sector. Gubmint checks are a McInsane tradition.
Um, government checks are a DU tradition, too, but you guys don't do anything to actually earn them.
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Um, government checks are a DU tradition, too, but you guys don't do anything to actually earn them.
My thoughts exactly.
The subway cat, who condemns corporate subsidies, oftentimes forgets she's subsidized too.
A subsidized enterprise = the subway cat, same thing.
No difference.
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stahbrett Donating Member (691 posts) Sun Apr-06-08 07:38 PM
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23. I disagree with McCain on many issues, but I do like him
I see him sort of like my grandfather, who was someone else whom I disagreed with on many issues, but didn't dislike personally at all.
people projecting parental qualities onto political leaders are missing the point in a really and truly
fundamental way . . . . the government is not your family. your family is your family. the government
isn't even your friend.
anyway, I though this would be the end of this silliness . . . . but I was mistaken
DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 07:44 PM
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25. Did your grandfather have a mean sense of humor?
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 07:46 PM by DesertRat
Here are two examples of the wit of John McCain:
" Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father."
"Leonardo Di Caprio is an androgynous wimp."
You only know the public side of McCain. Listen to those who have known him for years and see what they think of him.
And those examples pale in comparison to the ethical violations he commited as a member of the notorious "Keating Five."
um, are we really going to charge for having a "mean sense of humor"? personally, i think he is
exactly right about dicaprio, and the chelsea joke was funny as hell.
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Red Zelda (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 06:10 PM
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11. No one in the family
works for the private sector. Gubmint checks are a McInsane tradition.
Hmmm..... haven't Bill 'n' Hillary have spent a big chunk of their adult lives living in public housing at the taxpayers' expense?
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Red Zelda (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 06:10 PM
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11. No one in the family
works for the private sector. Gubmint checks are a McInsane tradition.
Hmmm..... haven't Bill 'n' Hillary have spent a big chunk of their adult lives living in public housing at the taxpayers' expense?
I thought liberals wanted everyone on the government payroll . . . none of that messy, unfair capitalism, with all of it's wal-marts, and such.