babsbunny (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 04:43 PM
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Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/ron-paul-ralph-nader... /
In this corner, a libertarian, tea party hero who ran several campaigns as a candidate for US president on the Republican ticket. And in that corner, a progressive icon of the left who also ran several campaigns for the US presidency but on the Green Party ticket.
One might think the two men, seemingly ideologically opposed to one another, would rather argue than help one another.
However, on Wednesday's broadcast of Freedom Watch on the Fox Business channel, Judge Napolitano sat down for an amiable interview with Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) and Ralph Nader to discuss a progressive-libertarian alliance in the 112th session of respective chambers in Congress.
ProSense (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 05:26 PM
What's the coalition going to do beyond supporting Republican legislation?
Is Paul planning to support the Progressive Caucus?
WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 05:41 PMWhoa! Bernie Sanders! A third crackpot dives into the stew pot!
What are you people talking about?
Bernie Sanders works with Ron Paul to do the same thing Nader wants to do with Paul. Paul is all over the place, and the issues they will be tackling are progressive. But you people see the name Nader and lose your minds.
ProSense (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 05:53 PM
What are you talking about?
The Democratic caucus works with Republicans (Ron Paul is a member of their caucus) all the time.
His positions are even more whacked than theirs.
ProSense (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 06:02 PM
What?
The issue is I think Paul is a kook and Nader has become a miguided opportunist.
Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 06:33 PM
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There are areas of agreement between the Libertarian and Green constituencies.
On things like ending the drug war, getting government out of citizens' bodies, not wasting money going after "morals" crimes between consenting adults, ending censorship and other misguided 'crusades'....
customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 05:11 PM
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6. Just a few days ago, someone here asked about the chances that Ron Paul
would win the Rethug nomination. I said there was no way that would happen, then Paul cozies up to Nader. With friends like that, the Repukes would never nominate Paul, or any other pure libertarian that the fundies just wouldn't approve of.
customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 06:48 PM
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52. That would be good
For us! He could do to the Pukes what Nader did to us!
Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 06:34 PM
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38. No different than Alan Grayson partnering with Ron Paul on the Fed
or wanting to end the damn wars.
We do have a few things in common.
reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 07:26 PM
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64. ron paul is capitalist for sure
but he is not a corporatist and wants to end CORPORATE welfare, he is the kind of right wing liberals can actually be BIPARTISAN with. i think most of us liberals are against the patriot act I and II, are against the wars in afghanistan and iraq, are against corporate welfare, he wants MORE regulation of wall street,. on these issues alone the kind of conservatives that ron paul represents want the same as us liberals. of course sanders and paul will disagree about other issues and will not vote the same, but at least they are able to see that their differing political views do indeed sometimes overlap...
can you imagine how much better shape the usa would be in if someone like ron paul had been in power instead of reagan (as to say that if that kind of republican had won in 1980 (i would have rather carter won, but if we were obliged to have 8 years of republicans at least ron paul is more like 1950s republicans...
there are common points between even the tea party and the liberal movement
What do you get if you cross Ron Paul with Ralph Nader?
I'm undecided on the issue of whether the Greens would produce an anarchic cluster****, or a totalitarian state "For the public good" that would out-do the Reign of Terror in its excesses. I tend to think the latter.