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Title: So, Mitch McConnell and friends are assuring the American people that "Oh, yes,
Post by: Freeper on January 20, 2011, 08:06:38 PM
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Atticus  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Thu Jan-20-11 08:48 PM
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So, Mitch McConnell and friends are assuring the American people that "Oh, yes, there WILL
   
be a Senate vote" on repealing the Healthcare Act. This despite the inconvenient fact that Harry Reid and the Democrats are still in control of the US Senate and Reid has said he will NOT call the matter up for a vote.

There is talk that the Republicans are planning to simply refuse to participate in any governance unless and until they get their way and the Senate votes on their prized repeal bill. It is sort of the equivalent of a petulant child threatenuing to hold their breath until they get what they want.

As disgusting as this approach would be, I fervently hope the GOP will try it. It will not tell me anything I don't already know about the Republicans, but it would likely tell me something very important about the Democrats: is there still a backbone in there somewhere?

If the Democrats allow themselves to be bluffed out of their shorts by this weasely puppet-mouthed twit---if they don't stand their ground, let the GOP bring government to a standstill and then HANG THEM WITH IT!---I will agree with those who say that the Democratic Party is dead.

If we blink in response to this bullshit stunt, we will truly not deserve the support of the American people.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x238157

If the dems were in the minority and did this, you would be cheering.

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Rosa Luxemburg  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Thu Jan-20-11 08:50 PM
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1. Mitch McConnell wants to add billions to the deficit!

Actually he is trying to cut down the deficit. Killing HCR will do just that.
The dems are lying their asses off about repeal adding to the deficit.
They gave the CBO fixed numbers.


Title: Re: So, Mitch McConnell and friends are assuring the American people that "Oh, yes,
Post by: jukin on January 20, 2011, 09:23:20 PM
Me thinks that the debt ceiling will be the lever that pushes the vote in the senate.  Obama will be pushing it in the end and claiming the republicans are forcing him to do it......hostage takers....have to do it to save the econom...his presidency...
Title: Re: So, Mitch McConnell and friends are assuring the American people that "Oh, yes,
Post by: Vagabond on January 20, 2011, 09:57:35 PM
I still don't see a need for a debt limit increase.  The federal government could cut back in unnecessary and unconstitutional areas, just like a business to get back to a balanced budget.  In fact it absolutely has to at some point, or it is literally going to devour us all.
Title: Re: So, Mitch McConnell and friends are assuring the American people that "Oh, yes,
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 21, 2011, 09:23:12 AM
I still don't see a need for a debt limit increase.  The federal government could cut back in unnecessary and unconstitutional areas, just like a business to get back to a balanced budget.  In fact it absolutely has to at some point, or it is literally going to devour us all.

It's hard to say, they may be so close to the edge by the time they actually get around to doing the vote that there won't be any real alternative to an extension or a shut-down, in fact that is probably the Democrat strategy on it.
Title: Re: So, Mitch McConnell and friends are assuring the American people that "Oh, yes,
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 21, 2011, 10:04:58 AM
It's hard to say, they may be so close to the edge by the time they actually get around to doing the vote that there won't be any real alternative to an extension or a shut-down, in fact that is probably the Democrat strategy on it.
It would be the height of foolishness to delay the debt limit increase and force a shutdown. It would cancel out the political advantage the jug-eared Kenyan has given Republicans on a silver platter, reverse the electoral tide in congress, and probably assure a second term for the muslim. It would be a repeat of the one fatally stupid move Newt made, which turned out to be an enormous favor to Bill Clinton.

It's a big price to pay to briefly feel the satisfaction of ideological purity.
Title: Re: So, Mitch McConnell and friends are assuring the American people that "Oh, yes,
Post by: DefiantSix on January 21, 2011, 10:23:02 AM
It would be the height of foolishness to delay the debt limit increase and force a shutdown. It would cancel out the political advantage the jug-eared Kenyan has given Republicans on a silver platter, reverse the electoral tide in congress, and probably assure a second term for the muslim. It would be a repeat of the one fatally stupid move Newt made, which turned out to be an enormous favor to Bill Clinton.

It's a big price to pay to briefly feel the satisfaction of ideological purity.

It is already the "height of foolishness" to have our government indebted to the tune of 96% of GDP, sir.  Not turning off the borrowing tap sooner, is only going to make the pain when it finally HAS TO BE TURNED OFF that much more agonizing.

Interventions are universally painful, but often times they're the only way to salvage the addict.
Title: Re: So, Mitch McConnell and friends are assuring the American people that "Oh, yes,
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 21, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
It would be the height of foolishness to delay the debt limit increase and force a shutdown. It would cancel out the political advantage the jug-eared Kenyan has given Republicans on a silver platter, reverse the electoral tide in congress, and probably assure a second term for the muslim. It would be a repeat of the one fatally stupid move Newt made, which turned out to be an enormous favor to Bill Clinton.

It's a big price to pay to briefly feel the satisfaction of ideological purity.

I agree with your analysis.
Title: Re: So, Mitch McConnell and friends are assuring the American people that "Oh, yes,
Post by: AllosaursRus on January 21, 2011, 12:15:13 PM
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There is talk that the Republicans are planning to simply refuse to participate in any governance unless and until they get their way and the Senate votes on their prized repeal bill. It is sort of the equivalent of a petulant child threatenuing to hold their breath until they get what they want.

Never mind the fact that we the majority want the thing shit canned, huh, ya DUmbassDipShit?

It is already the "height of foolishness" to have our government indebted to the tune of 96% of GDP, sir.  Not turning off the borrowing tap sooner, is only going to make the pain when it finally HAS TO BE TURNED OFF that much more agonizing.

Interventions are universally painful, but often times they're the only way to salvage the addict.

Problem is close to 30% in this country are the addicts we need to shut off, and there's another 20 or so % that want to feel good by spendin' other peoples money to keep them addicted!