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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: BlueStateSaint on January 20, 2011, 01:22:54 PM
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This is getting interesting. Imagine the rebuke that Republicans could deliver to the Obamessiah and Dingy Harry if they pull this off! I'm not sure if it should be in the thread about the House vote, or in the 2012 Election forum, or even in the Politics forum. Mods, please do as you see fit . . .
Three Democratic Senators Encourage Repeal of Health Care Reporting Requirement
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Published January 20, 2011
FoxNews.com
WASHINGTON -- Three Senate Democrats say they'd be supportive of House-passed legislation that repeals the requirement for businesses to comply with a burdensome reporting provision in the new health care law.
Sens. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Maria Cantwell of Washington and Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota wrote House Speaker John Boehner Thursday, telling him the Senate would move quickly if the House passed a bill to repeal the provision that requires nearly 40 million U.S. businesses to file tax forms for every vendor that sells them more than $600 in goods.
The 1099 provision, as it's called, is scheduled to start in 2012 and is expected to raise $19 billion over the next decade in order to fund the $1 trillion, 10-year health care law that is the signature achievement of the Obama administration.
The repeal of the 1099 reporting rule is not a big stretch in the repeal movement initiated by Republicans, who voted in the House Wednesday to scrap the whole law. Even the White House wants to scrap what has been widely criticized as a paperwork nightmare, and the Treasury Department has already taken action to limit its scope.
But the 1099 rule repeal is a first step in reversing any aspect of the law since Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has vowed to prevent a full repeal vote in the Senate. And if it ever did make it out of that chamber, the White House has signaled it would veto any attempt to overturn President Obama's signature legislative accomplishment.
The rest is at:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/20/gop-health-law-repeal-hard/
Yeah, it's gonna be a battle . . . but ya gotta start fighting sometime!
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I'm all for that, it is a stupid and burdensome requirement that doesn't have one G-d'd thing to really do with health care in the first place, and the bastards that stuck it in the HCRA in the first place all ought to be banned from holding public office.
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I hope it becomes more than just three (even if it is not likely). The more division in the jackass party (and the more temper tantrums at DU) the merrier. :-)
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I hope it becomes more than just three (even if it is not likely). The more division in the jackass party (and the more temper tantrums at DU) the merrier. :-)
So I guess these 3 Dems will = Hitler now at the DU.
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But the 1099 requirement was part of their expected revenue to pay for the HCR. But really, the democrats don't really care what this monstrosity costs - they just want it to be part of their legacy. Unfortunately, this legacy is not going to be a good one for them.
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It is time to play hardball with the lunatics on the left. Most bills originate in the House. However, some originate in the Senate. Majority leader Boehner should inform dirty Harry that if he does not allow a vote on the Health Care Bill, we will dump the bills you send to us in the toilet.
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It is time to play hardball with the lunatics on the left. Most bills originate in the House. However, some originate in the Senate. Majority leader Boehner should inform dirty Harry that if he does not allow a vote on the Health Care Bill, we will dump the bills you send to us in the toilet.
You're right. 100%.
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It is time to play hardball with the lunatics on the left. Most bills originate in the House. However, some originate in the Senate. Majority leader Boehner should inform dirty Harry that if he does not allow a vote on the Health Care Bill, we will dump the bills you send to us in the toilet.
The Dems would make political hay out of that, because they'd send a bill over they have waiting in the wings that is actually beneficial for the country (seems difficult to believe, but hey, sometimes I'm a friggin' optimist), then they'd sit back and wait for the toilet to flush - or, more accurately dare the Repubs to actually pull the chain on the crapper.
If the toilet flushes, they point and gesture and cry "Gridlock!" even as they're preparing the next bill.
I think the American people can tolerate SOME of that, but if things get stupid like they did in 1994 and the gubmint shuts down, the gridlock thing can bite the Repubs in the ass.
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The Dems would make political hay out of that, because they'd send a bill over they have waiting in the wings that is actually beneficial for the country (seems difficult to believe, but hey, sometimes I'm a friggin' optimist), then they'd sit back and wait for the toilet to flush - or, more accurately dare the Repubs to actually pull the chain on the crapper.
If the toilet flushes, they point and gesture and cry "Gridlock!" even as they're preparing the next bill.
I think the American people can tolerate SOME of that, but if things get stupid like they did in 1994 and the gubmint shuts down, the gridlock thing can bite the Repubs in the ass.
Euph, do you really believe that the Dems are capable of originating a bill of ANY kind that we, as Constitutionalists, would EVER consider beneficial? I don't. Plus, in case they really did originate such a bill in the Senate, Boehner can just make an exception for it. But don't you think the odds are that they'd send over something Republicans can easily reject and refuse to even take up? For example, the Senate could originate some new BS version of amnesty for illegal aliens, without any spending requirements. Boehner can easily say "we're not even going to consider that crap, so I suggest you don't even waste your time." With whom are the Dems going to make hay with something like that? Only the moonbats anyway.
Meanwhile, if they actually proposed, oh, say, a tax cut without booby traps, of course Boehner and the House would take it up. But think about it again. WHAT, by our definition of beneficial, would the Dems EVER originate in the Senate that's beneficial?
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The Dems would make political hay out of that, because they'd send a bill over they have waiting in the wings that is actually beneficial for the country (seems difficult to believe, but hey, sometimes I'm a friggin' optimist), then they'd sit back and wait for the toilet to flush - or, more accurately dare the Repubs to actually pull the chain on the crapper.
If the toilet flushes, they point and gesture and cry "Gridlock!" even as they're preparing the next bill.
I think the American people can tolerate SOME of that, but if things get stupid like they did in 1994 and the gubmint shuts down, the gridlock thing can bite the Repubs in the ass.
Everything that the Repubs do or say, the Democrats make political hay out of it. So, what else is new. Repubs need to get a backbone and tell dirty Harry that we are going to govern in the same mode that you have been doing for the last 4 years. I feel like Boehner is not up to the job. The Repubs should vote against raising the debt limit. The last election was about cutting spending. Most Americans would welcome shutting down a portion of the government. BTW, the last shutdown was only a partial rather than a complete shutdown.
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Euph, do you really believe that the Dems are capable of originating a bill of ANY kind that we, as Constitutionalists, would EVER consider beneficial? I don't. Plus, in case they really did originate such a bill in the Senate, Boehner can just make an exception for it. But don't you think the odds are that they'd send over something Republicans can easily reject and refuse to even take up? For example, the Senate could originate some new BS version of amnesty for illegal aliens, without any spending requirements. Boehner can easily say "we're not even going to consider that crap, so I suggest you don't even waste your time." With whom are the Dems going to make hay with something like that? Only the moonbats anyway.
Meanwhile, if they actually proposed, oh, say, a tax cut without booby traps, of course Boehner and the House would take it up. But think about it again. WHAT, by our definition of beneficial, would the Dems EVER originate in the Senate that's beneficial?
My point is, legislation is drafted and passed all the time that isn't controversial - routine stuff that nobody blinks too much at, unless the pork and the earmarks outweigh the original bill's intentions at which point the bill becomes noteworthy.
It doesn't really matter who originates said un-noteworthy legislation - Dem or Repub, it's a dirty job and some poor bastard has to do it.
Since spending bills MUST originate in the House, the Repubs have an advantage. But Dingy Harry is not above cutting his nose off to spite his face and I can certainly envision him continuing on the path he's been on for the past 4 years. Ergo, he'll dig in his heels and whine at the same time that the House is impeding Congress' business and that kind of stuff is viewed very dimly by the American people after awhile.
After the last two years, there isn't much that the Dems would actually put together from a spending POV that would be "beneficial", but I'm quite sure that Harry would actually invent something just to force the issue and make the House look bad.
When Harry goes so far as to talk about changing rules re: filibuster, you know he honestly does not give a shit about his "legacy" or his "leadership". He's a dingy, dirty old man who wormed his way back into office and he's going to continue worming for at least the next two years at which time we can only hope the Repubs take back the Senate.
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You know, I was listening to some radio show yesterday that was talking about this. The more I listened the higher my blood pressure went until my ears filled with blood and I couldn't hear anymore.....starting to happen again.
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You know, I was listening to some radio show yesterday that was talking about this. The more I listened the higher my blood pressure went until my ears filled with blood and I couldn't hear anymore.....starting to happen again.
I felt the same way Johnny. I sometimes tune it out, it gets to be put too much at times. I don't ignore it, it just makes my blood boil. :argh:
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Back to the 1099's...my Dem rep (Bill Owens) tried to introduce something to repeal that part back in the lame duck, I think it was. It went nowhere. He sent an email out about it. So, that would make at least 4 Dem reps for rpeal of this stupid provision. Can you imagine the all these zillions of slips of paper and the endless work required to do them? It boggles the mind.
I don't get it why such idiotic people get elected to office.
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Simple test... Any Senator who has actually read the bill is free to vote against repeal. Oh, and yes there will be a test.