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Title: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: thundley4 on January 19, 2011, 12:15:46 PM
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts)             Wed Jan-19-11 12:16 PM
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Right wing terrorist attempt to bomb Martin Luther King Parade
   
'Domestic Terror': Bomb Found in Backpack Ahead of Spokane MLK Parade
By: Emily Rauhala

The F.B.I. says the device could have caused "multiple casualties." Thankfully, it was found — and diffused — before the march got underway.

In what feels like a callous affront to King's legacy of non-violence, an improvised bomb was placed along the Martin Luther King Day parade route in downtown Spokane, Washington on Monday.

The suspicious backpack, which contained an improvised explosive device (IED) and two t-shirts, was found less than an hour before the festivities began. The march was re-routed and the bomb diffused.

Given the timing and the placement of the bomb, the F.B.I. believes the motive was political: “We're certainly approaching it as a potential domestic terrorism event at this point,” said spokesman.“Whether the motive was racial or an individual was being targeted, it's too soon to say.

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/19/domestic-terror-bom...
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Maine_Nurse (72 posts)           Wed Jan-19-11 12:25 PM
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1. See, that kind of baseless accusation is as bad as they are.
   
Where, exactly, does the right wing crap come in? We have our own terrorist orgs and rabid bigots, why must we always assume and decry it is "them", especially when it is, as yet, completely baseless?

This is part of the problem, both "sides" engage in this holier-than-thou, instant finger pointing crap.

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Xenotime (1000+ posts)           Wed Jan-19-11 12:30 PM
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2. It doesn't say it WASN'T right wing, does it?
   

That is all the proof needed by a DUmmie.

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monmouth   (1000+ posts)             Wed Jan-19-11 12:36 PM
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3. I haven't heard of any lefties that are into bombings, just sayin'....n/t

WTF?  :mental:

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Maine_Nurse (72 posts)           Wed Jan-19-11 01:09 PM
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5. Then you are uninformed.
   
While there aren't as many, there are some very violent extremist left groups out there in this country. And yes they have used bombs and arson.

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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts)           Wed Jan-19-11 01:15 PM
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7. Uh huh.
   
If they're bombing Martin Luther King parades, then they're not "left-wing"

Never heard of a "false flag" operation? The left is famous for them.

Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Chris_ on January 19, 2011, 12:18:06 PM
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monmouth   (1000+ posts)             Wed Jan-19-11 12:36 PM
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3. I haven't heard of any lefties that are into bombings, just sayin'....n/t
I hear Bill Ayers and his old lady are fans.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: thundley4 on January 19, 2011, 12:19:36 PM
I hear Bill Ayers and his old lady are fans.

They have friends in high places.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 19, 2011, 12:21:15 PM
How is a bomb "diffused"?
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: NHSparky on January 19, 2011, 12:27:57 PM
How is a bomb "diffused"?

Well, when it explodes it diffuses itself to the surrounding area...
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: true_blood on January 19, 2011, 12:28:07 PM
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monmouth   (1000+ posts)             Wed Jan-19-11 12:36 PM
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3. I haven't heard of any lefties that are into bombings, just sayin'....n/t
Maybe your brain is so small that you forgot Bill Ayers??
You're right primitive. They just shoot people and fly a plane into the I.R.S. building. No bombs. Unless you talk about the throwbacks. The lefties love themselves some throwbacks and the throwbacks love to bomb and blow themselves up. 7th century thinking and all that. :wink:
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 19, 2011, 12:31:06 PM
Remember the guy that stabbed the Muslim cab driver?

So does DU, they just choose to ignore it.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: jukin on January 19, 2011, 12:45:34 PM
muslims are not big fans of blacks. In fact, they still have a thriving slave system in Africa. My money is on a muslim.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: micmac on January 19, 2011, 12:53:51 PM
Reminds me of the noose that the black professor left on her own door. 
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Revolution on January 19, 2011, 01:22:21 PM
Oh yeah, DUmmies, I also hear the Earth Liberation Front is into some pretty nefarious stuff as well. Forget about them, did you? Greenpeace? There's too many to list.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 19, 2011, 01:25:22 PM
muslims are not big fans of blacks. In fact, they still have a thriving slave system in Africa. My money is on a muslim.
It's just as reasonable to assume white supremacists but I'm a fan of the Let's-see-what-the-investigation-reveals approach.

Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Attero Dominatus on January 19, 2011, 01:31:16 PM
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jan-19-11 12:36 PM
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3. I haven't heard of any lefties that are into bombings, just sayin'....n/t
   
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Weather Underground, Shining Path, FARC, ELF, ALF, Red Army Faction, Red Brigades, Joe Stack

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jan-19-11 02:15 PM
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21. So not leftists, or rightists, but moderate extremists?
   
Let's be blunt: this was most likely the act of a white supremacist, and white supremacy--as racism in general--is the domain of the right wing.
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KKK (read its history, lurking DUmmies), Italian Fascism (read that too), National Socialist German Workers Party. Enough said.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 19, 2011, 01:34:33 PM
Weather Underground, Shining Path, FARC, ELF, ALF, Red Army Faction, Red Brigades
KKK (read its history, lurking DUmmies), Italian Fascism (read that too), National Socialist German Workers Party. Enough said.
We need to do a dedicated thread on stuff lifted from stormfront.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Karin on January 19, 2011, 02:03:28 PM
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EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-19-11 02:18 PM
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26. No, ALF and ELF are not leftist organizations.
 Good grief.

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EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-19-11 01:19 PM
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8. Fail. We don't have "our" own terrorist organizations or rabid bigots.

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EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-19-11 02:17 PM
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23. Racism is not a platform of the Democratic party or a value of the left, nope. n/t

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EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-19-11 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #17
29. No, both sides do not do it.
 There are no Democratic members of the House courting hate groups or encouraging violence or speaking in dog whistles to the mentally unstable in hopes they will take action.

Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Chris_ on January 19, 2011, 02:04:48 PM
She must be upset.  She didn't use a single 'LOL'.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: jukin on January 19, 2011, 02:08:15 PM
It's just as reasonable to assume white supremacists but I'm a fan of the Let's-see-what-the-investigation-reveals approach.



I was too....until the Tucson shooting.  I have always met force with equal or more force.  The Communist Democrat Party's propaganda wing changed that for me. Until the end of my days. I will jump on the CDP and the hard left with any and all acquisitions, repeat them, embellish them, and then if proven wrong never retreat or apologize. 

I now play by their rules. I take Chairman Obama's rule of bringing a gun if the CDP brings a knife.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: AllosaursRus on January 19, 2011, 02:21:56 PM
This seems a little out of place in Spokane. There really isn't much of a Black population in Eastern WA. More Islamic population than Black. There are still a few white supremacists, but they keep a real low profile and bombing MLK parade would certainly get the FBI breathin' down their necks. Something they have avoided since the days of Richard Butler.

If I were to chance a guess, my money would be on some stupid little high schooler wantin' to make a name for him/them selves. Or givin' the complete dud the left had over the Ariz shooting, it wouldn't surprise me if it's a false flag. Not many lefties in this neck 'o the woods though, so best to wait for the Feds to run it down.

ETA:

Called one of my buds down at the sheriff's department and it looks like you can rule out some nutjob high schooler! He said the sophistication of the device is such that it has to be someone with a great deal of knowledge in explosives! So much so, that white supremacists are gettin' lower on the list as the intricate device is such that they haven't seen anything like it before! It's closer to the IEDs the military deals with!

They are offering a $20,000 reward for info. They are definitely calling it a domestic terrorist event! Anyone keepin' track of Ayres or Dorn lately?

My buddy said he will keep in touch if they give him any new info.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: thundley4 on January 19, 2011, 02:23:13 PM
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EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-19-11 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #17
29. No, both sides do not do it.
 There are no Democratic members of the House courting hate groups or encouraging violence or speaking in dog whistles to the mentally unstable in hopes they will take action.

Nope, the Congressional Black Caucus isn't racist, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus isn't racist.  
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 19, 2011, 02:41:05 PM
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EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-19-11 02:20 PM
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29. No, both sides do not do it.
There are no Democratic members of the House courting hate groups or encouraging violence or speaking in dog whistles to the mentally unstable in hopes they will take action.

Lol, poor, stupid Beth, lol! Hate groups and the mentally unstable are the democrat base! Lol, lol!
And by the way, poor, stupid Beth, lol, "your" main terrorist organization is our opponent in the global war on terror. Lol, lol.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Attero Dominatus on January 19, 2011, 02:55:30 PM
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EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-19-11 02:20 PM
EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-19-11 02:18 PM
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26. No, ALF and ELF are not leftist organizations.
 Good grief.

Dear Doug's Stupid Ex Wife,

Both groups are environmental radicalists who seek to change society so that everyone serves the environment. That would be a form of collectivism. The left stresses collectivism above individualism in various forms (environmentalism, communism, fascism, racism and several other isms).

Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 19, 2011, 03:18:21 PM
Dear Doug's Stupid Ex Wife,

Both groups are environmental radicalists who seek to change society so that everyone serves the environment. That would be a form of collectivism. The left stresses collectivism above individualism in various forms (environmentalism, communism, fascism, racism and several other isms).



Where's that pic of the Three Stooges doing a triple Facepalm? :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: IassaFTots on January 19, 2011, 03:20:05 PM
This seems a little out of place in Spokane. There really isn't much of a Black population in Eastern WA. More Islamic population than Black. There are still a few white supremacists, but they keep a real low profile and bombing MLK parade would certainly get the FBI breathin' down their necks. Something they have avoided since the days of Richard Butler.

If I were to chance a guess, my money would be on some stupid little high schooler wantin' to make a name for him/them selves. Or givin' the complete dud the left had over the Ariz shooting, it wouldn't surprise me if it's a false flag. Not many lefties in this neck 'o the woods though, so best to wait for the Feds to run it down.

ETA:

Called one of my buds down at the sheriff's department and it looks like you can rule out some nutjob high schooler! He said the sophistication of the device is such that it has to be someone with a great deal of knowledge in explosives! So much so, that white supremacists are gettin' lower on the list as the intricate device is such that they haven't seen anything like it before! It's closer to the IEDs the military deals with!

They are offering a $20,000 reward for info. They are definitely calling it a domestic terrorist event! Anyone keepin' track of Ayres or Dorn lately?

My buddy said he will keep in touch if they give him any new info.

Very interesting AR.  I am curious to see what comes of that.

ETA:  grammar correction.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Ballygrl on January 19, 2011, 03:25:01 PM
The FALN?
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Godot showed up on January 19, 2011, 03:28:30 PM
My first thought was jihadists (Moslems--same difference).
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Godot showed up on January 19, 2011, 03:33:15 PM
I mean--why wouldn't they? MLK Day is American enough for them to target, and MLK himself was pretty much against nearly everything they're for. They're big on urinating on everyone else's important days/parades, too. And Al's inside dope from the sheriff further suggests NON-domestic terrorism (any jihadist action, wherever it originates, is by definition and act of international terrorism, as jihadism is a worldwide war movement).
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Godot showed up on January 19, 2011, 03:34:23 PM
muslims are not big fans of blacks. In fact, they still have a thriving slave system in Africa. My money is on a muslim.

That's where the smart money is, IMO. H5!
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 19, 2011, 03:35:34 PM
That's where the smart money is, IMO. H5!

Also, if the Left could run "false flag" operations, what's to say that the jihadists wouldn't?
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Texacon on January 19, 2011, 03:41:10 PM
It had to be the left..... MLK was a Republican.

KC
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: AllosaursRus on January 19, 2011, 03:54:00 PM
That's where the smart money is, IMO. H5!

Well without comin' right out and sayin' it, it sure seems that's the way they're leanin'. Looks too much the same as what they see in Iraq! It was hooked up to a cell phone, that in itself makes me think Muzzie, so I'm thinkin' they were damn lucky to find it when they did!

Apparently whoever was goin' to set it off wasn't watchin' as it was 2 hours before the parade started. You'd think if they saw the bomb squad messin' with it, they would have set it off anyway in order to destroy as much evidence as possible.

They had one other similar to this but not nearly as intricate in front of the court house a few months ago. They're not sure if they are related as of yet.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Randy on January 19, 2011, 04:06:23 PM
The FBI is on the scent of any activities set for the major holidays. MLK day is a good one to try and do a little dividing in this country.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Attero Dominatus on January 19, 2011, 04:14:25 PM
Where's that pic of the Three Stooges doing a triple Facepalm? :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:

(http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129092786498235257.jpg)
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: AllosaursRus on January 19, 2011, 04:26:27 PM
The FBI is on the scent of any activities set for the major holidays. MLK day is a good one to try and do a little dividing in this country.

That's what seems to puzzle the authorities. They wonder why they would use MLK when it is too easily blamed on a political org. If it is indeed Muzzies, they think they would pick a different holiday, although, it could be because we don't really have another mass gatherin' until memorial day. Could be a timing thing and not wantin' to wait.

The Feds are puzzled because they think if it were international they would rather have somethin' more in their favor for blame. MLK Day is just not addin' up.

Suffice it to say the FBI ain't gotta clue! At least not one their sharin'!
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Revolution on January 19, 2011, 04:29:29 PM
I hope you stay on this like a bad smell on a DUmmie, Al. Good info so far. :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: thundley4 on January 19, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
That's what seems to puzzle the authorities. They wonder why they would use MLK when it is too easily blamed on a political org. If it is indeed Muzzies, they think they would pick a different holiday, although, it could be because we don't really have another mass gatherin' until memorial day. Could be a timing thing and not wantin' to wait.

The Feds are puzzled because they think if it were international they would rather have somethin' more in their favor for blame. MLK Day is just not addin' up.

Suffice it to say the FBI ain't gotta clue! At least not one their sharin'!

Maybe, instead of wanting to take the blame for an attack or in this case an attempted attack, the Muslims are trying the tried and true tactic of divide and conquer. Hell the left leans more than halfway in favoring Muslims anyway, so this would only help to increase their empathy.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 19, 2011, 04:44:27 PM
(http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129092786498235257.jpg)

Thank you!  H5!
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Godot showed up on January 19, 2011, 04:45:38 PM
Maybe, instead of wanting to take the blame for an attack or in this case an attempted attack, the Muslims are trying the tried and true tactic of divide and conquer. Hell the left leans more than halfway in favoring Muslims anyway, so this would only help to increase their empathy.

I'm inclined to think they (the Mozlem jihdists) just hate all of us first and foremost, whites and blacks, and if there's a tactical advantage to be gained by targeting a specific holiday, that's just icing on the cake--but icing they don't particularly want to enjoy for long, because they almost always take credit, even for failed attempts.
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: AllosaursRus on January 19, 2011, 04:49:50 PM
I hope you stay on this like a bad smell on a DUmmie, Al. Good info so far. :cheersmate:

Don't worry, this is in my backyard! My sheriff bud tells me if they want to hide, we live in the best place in the USA in order to do so! Especially this time of year! Most places are ass deep to a tall Indian and everyone is snuggled around their fireplace, not payin' much attention to anything else! Plenty of tourists in town due to ski season.

Maybe, instead of wanting to take the blame for an attack or in this case an attempted attack, the Muslims are trying the tried and true tactic of divide and conquer. Hell the left leans more than halfway in favoring Muslims anyway, so this would only help to increase their empathy.

That has been proposed! Most of the guys down at the local have this on their minds, too! Most times the FBI rarely shares anything! They seem to be reaching out to us for the Aryan link and haven't found anything. Otherwise, I doubt we would be gettin' as much info as we are.

ETA:

There is a little more, but I can't divulge or I will lose my source, and that ain't happenin'! As soon as I get an okay, I will share it with you!
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: Attero Dominatus on January 19, 2011, 04:56:47 PM
Thank you!  H5!

No problem  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: AllosaursRus on January 19, 2011, 04:59:06 PM
I'm inclined to think they (the Mozlem jihdists) just hate all of us first and foremost, whites and blacks, and if there's a tactical advantage to be gained by targeting a specific holiday, that's just icing on the cake--but icing they don't particularly want to enjoy for long, because they almost always take credit, even for failed attempts.

This is what is perplexing. Usually they stand right up and take credit. It has been put forth the reason they haven't, is this might not be the only incident. In other words, there might be others. I find this hard to believe since the holiday is over, but the FBI thinks on a different plane than most logical law enforcement. ( shit, did I say that out loud? )
Title: Re: Suicide bombing run on DU
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 19, 2011, 05:46:44 PM
....and Ted Kennedy's 1965 law is still letting in whole families of Muslim immigrants(jihadist).