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Title: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: Chris_ on January 16, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
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New York Times: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin" (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/us/16loughner.html?_r=1)

He became intrigued by antigovernment conspiracy theories, including that the Sept. 11 attacks were perpetrated by the government and that the country’s central banking system was enslaving its citizens. His anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush, or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government.
page 3, paragraph seven (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/us/16loughner.html?_r=1)
Title: Re: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: littlelamb on January 16, 2011, 11:42:28 PM
Good find Chris thanks for posting it
Title: Re: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: Thor on January 17, 2011, 12:34:59 AM
Long read. The author still associates Loughner's mental issues to the right winged extremist groups and made a couple of other remarks, trying desperately to connect Loughner to the right. Pretty much what I would expect from the NYT.
Title: Re: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 17, 2011, 10:30:52 AM
Long read. The author still associates Loughner's mental issues to the right winged extremist groups and made a couple of other remarks, trying desperately to connect Loughner to the right. Pretty much what I would expect from the NYT.

That is what I noticed too. Loughner sounds like he has BDS.

Here is what caught my attention.
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“He would get so upset about bigger issues, like why do positive and negative magnets have to attract each other,” recalled Mr. Gutierrez, the friend who joined him in target practice in the desert. “He had the most incredible thoughts, but he could not handle them.”
Okay, why would anyone be upset, let alone think of positive and negative magnets attract each other?????????  :???:  :wtf2: :wtf3:

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He also wrote of his “strong interest in logic.” But, it seems, it was a logic whose inductive and deductive reasoning made sense only to him.
He thinks logical, yet he is not logical.

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A few days later, during a meeting with a school administrator, Mr. Loughner said that he had paid for his courses illegally because, “I did not pay with gold and silver” — a standard position among right-wing extremist groups.
How is that right wing?  :???: :mental:
Title: Re: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: Freeper on January 17, 2011, 10:57:22 AM
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His anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush

Which site that begins with a D had plenty of posters who got all angry everytime they heard or saw Bush?
Title: Re: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: dutch508 on January 19, 2011, 04:22:20 PM
Rush's webpage (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/content/home/daily/site_011711/content/01125107.guest.html)

That very long New York Times story on the killer, Jared Loughner. I remember when -- in the first half hour of the program, mere moments ago -- I mentioned that Jared Loughner was a Bush-hater. All three pairs of eyeballs on the other side of the glass look at me in total surprise.  They had not seen it reported anywhere.  Here's this detail from the New York Times piece on Jared Loughner: "He became intrigued by antigovernment conspiracy theories, including that the Sept. 11 attacks were perpetrated by the government..." Now, all of that is lies made up by the left.  And there was a Rasmussen survey -- ah, I forget, within the past year or so -- that half the Democrats in the country believed that. 

Where was that? Let me find it here real quick. In 2007, three years ago, Rasmussen Reports: "Democrats in America are evenly divided" evenly divided! "on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance.  Thirty-five percent of Democrats believe that Bush knew.  Thirty-nine percent said he didn't know.  Twenty-six percent aren't sure."  Of the 35% who think Bush knew, they also have to think he didn't do anything to stop it, which means 35% of Democrats think that Bush wanted it to happen -- and guess who this guy identifies with?  The Democrats! "He became intrigued by antigovernment conspiracy theories, including that the Sept. 11 attacks were perpetrated by the government," all lies made up by the left.

He also believed "that the country's central banking system was enslaving its citizens. His anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush, or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government." So here you have a "government" hater, a Bush-hater, which qualifies him to be in common with over 80% of the Democrat Party.  They all hated Bush. See, that hatred was justified.  Hatred of Bush? Well, that was understandable.  Hatred of Bush? Justifiable! So this guy's "anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush, or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government."

So he's an anti-government, conspiracy theorist, truther Bush-hater.  The New York Times uncovers all this. Back to Sheriff Dupnik.  "Disturbed enough to be found guilty but insane?  'I majored in psychology at the university,' Sheriff Dupnik answered. 'Based on what I’ve seen, he is psychotic, he has serious problems with reality, and I think he’s delusional. Does he meet the legal test of guilty but insane? I don't know.'"  Sheriff Dupnik, naming me, now claiming this guy is "delusional."  The sheriff was majoring in psychology at the university.  Well... I never once thought the guy was a genuine sheriff in the first place, then. 

Title: Re: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: Varokhâr on January 19, 2011, 04:30:42 PM
Typical that Dupnik is making excuses for Loughner; Loughner is clearly not a Right-winger, so he must be a poor, misunderstood victim of society ::)
Title: Re: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: Boudicca on January 19, 2011, 06:11:10 PM
Really?  Next, you'll be telling us bobbo is homeless.  And that grass is green. :-)
Title: Re: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: DLR Pyro on January 19, 2011, 06:15:43 PM
Really?  Next, you'll be telling us bobbo is homeless.  And that grass is green. :-)
or water is still wet
Title: Re: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: DixieBelle on January 19, 2011, 06:18:09 PM
Color me shocked!!
Title: Re: NYT: "Looking Behind the Mug-Shot Grin"
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 20, 2011, 11:13:07 AM
That was about Loughner?  I thought it was an average NYT reader profile!