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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on January 13, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
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Ineeda (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-13-11 09:30 AM
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Religion and last night's memorial
I'm not a religious person but IMO, exactly the right notes were hit for the country and, particularly, for the audience. It started with the Native American sacred ritual (about which I heard a Faux commentator say 'it was weird'.) There were enough references to God to satisfy the most devout, but not so many as to offend non-believers. The reading by Napolitano from the Old Testament was certainly a nod to Jews (like Gabby Giffords) but not un-Christian. Holder's reading from the New Testament and President Obama's references, especially to Job, completed an ecumenical triangle. Brilliant!
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-13-11 09:36 AM
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1. I thought there was a little too much bible reading.
Surely in all the world's great literature you can find some inspirational quotes someplace other that the Christian scripture.
Myrina (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-13-11 09:37 AM
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2. I'd prefer if my elected officials, being paid with my tax money, left religion out
... of their speeches. There were many other literary quotes they could have used without going Biblical on us.
I was not pleased.
Have to work to pay taxes.
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-13-11 09:41 AM
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4. it was not a political speech, it was a memorial. nt
Blind squirrel.....nut.
Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-13-11 09:48 AM
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8. It was a speech by the leading politician of the day..
It was a memorial but it was also a political speech, the two aren't automatically mutually exclusive.
So? Too much or not enough religion?
justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-13-11 09:44 AM
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5. Yet I'm sure the folks that hold religion dear and vote Dem, appreciated it
I'm about as anti-religion as one can get but politics is all about compromise and pandering and as I just wrote in another thread, this was a political moment last night, not just a healing speech. President Obama had to touch ALL of his potential voters 'cause he is gearing up to run for reelection and it couldn't come at a better time.
I agree, as a taxpayer, I too would prefer my elected officials leave religion out of politics but that boat sailed long ago. So now I just tune that shit out--I really tried to listen to Neapolitan (I know that's not really her last name) but at some point my hearing started turning down and before I knew it, the President of the University was back on introducing Holder and as soon as he started reading from the Bible, next thing I knew the President of the University was introducing the President. Funny how that works.
Damn, I bet this DUmmie is hoping for something even bigger to happen.
cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-13-11 10:03 AM
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12. Then you should only vote for people who are not religious.
Which is why we'll never have an Athiest President.
DUmmie admits that this is a religious nation.
ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-13-11 09:40 AM
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3. the amount of religious 'content' at a memorial service
and the kind, should be about the deceased and no one should give two rips about the 'country' or whoever else might be listening. if you are concerned about such things, you are not memorializing the person...you are having a rally.
sP
Exactly
el_bryanto (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-13-11 09:45 AM
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6. Well Obama's presense and participation implies that it's not just a
memorial for the people there. I didn't know any of the people there and their deaths won't affect me in any way that I can see. And yet I feel sorrow at their passing because of how they left. I don't know if that makes this a rally, but if it does it was probably what was needed.
Bryant
Obama can use all of the positive press he can get.
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It was an "event"....T-shirts and all.
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Loughner hated religion.
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It was absolutely tacky! People died...so come get your free t-shirts and hear 0bama! I was embarrassed. The fact that people died was completely lost in this thing.
Cindie
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Reminds me of the Ace of Cakes episode where they are going to do a Liberty Bell cake and one of the DUmmies who works in the shop got all pissy when she was told that the inscription on the Bell was from Leviticus. She stomped off and grumbled about "separation of church and state - it's in the Constitution", showing her glaring liberal ignorance of the Constitution and the origins of that phrase.
We weren't meant to have a country wherein the government could hijack and manipulate (or create) a religious sect and use it to control the people, we were meant to have a country where both the citizens and those in office are free to express their religious views without legal penalty or government suppression. Yes, DUmmies, even politicians are protected by the First Amendment and are fully allowed to express their religious views.
Your pseudo-communist spin on the Constitution, religion, history, and America doesn't change that.
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If I were associated with any of the victims, I would have walked out.
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Hmmmmmmm, wonder why we he didn't show up to give us his profound wisdom at the memorials after that Allah Akbar prick went on a shootin' spree on one of our military bases?
Care to discuss that, ya DUmb****s???
He showed up intending to make it a damn political rally! The guy's an attention whore and knew we would roast his balls if he tried that shit during a military wake!