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Title: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOffice
Post by: dutch508 on April 05, 2008, 03:24:30 PM
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walldude  (1000+ posts)      Sat Apr-05-08 04:13 PM
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5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOffice, 
 Advertisements [?]Fred Phelps gets nailed to the wall!!!!!

A federal judge in Maryland on Thursday ordered liens on the Westboro Baptist Church building and the Phelps-Chartered Law office.

If the case presided over by U.S. District Court Judge Richard D. Bennett is upheld by an appeals court, the church, at 3701 S.W. 12th, and the office building, at 1414 S.W. Topeka Blvd., could be obtained by the court and sold, with the proceeds being applied toward $5 million in damages Bennett imposed on church members for picketing a military funeral.

The $5 million penalty is the result of a lawsuit filed against three of the church’s principals by Albert Snyder, the father of Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew A. Snyder, whose funeral was picketed by church members

Apparently God's not on Fred's side!! Woo Hoo!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/05/fed-judge-orders-liens-on-fred-phelps-church-law-office/ 


uh...they know he's a dem, right?



Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOffice
Post by: DixieBelle on April 05, 2008, 04:47:33 PM
No, they just know that he's a "fundy who hates fags" so he must be like the rest of the Christians.

Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOf
Post by: Cleo on April 05, 2008, 09:05:14 PM
I knew the family Phelps would appeal this.  The ruling should be upheld...it's fair and just.  And it's what the Snyder family deserves.
Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOf
Post by: guest on April 05, 2008, 09:27:16 PM

uh...they know he's a dem, right?





You know how DUmmies are, they always pick and choose what they want to hear/read.   :whatever:  Which means they will ignore the fact he supported Al Gore for President.

Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOffice
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 05, 2008, 11:22:57 PM
You know how DUmmies are, they always pick and choose what they want to hear/read.   :whatever:  Which means they will ignore the fact he supported Al Gore for President.

An Inconvient Truth about Al Gore.
Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOf
Post by: Bondai on April 06, 2008, 01:28:23 PM
I knew the family Phelps would appeal this.  The ruling should be upheld...it's fair and just.  And it's what the Snyder family deserves.


The punishment does not fit the crime, the award of $5 million dollars is way out of line and so is the possible confiscation of all of his property.
Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOf
Post by: Cleo on April 06, 2008, 11:36:34 PM
I knew the family Phelps would appeal this.  The ruling should be upheld...it's fair and just.  And it's what the Snyder family deserves.


The punishment does not fit the crime, the award of $5 million dollars is way out of line and so is the possible confiscation of all of his property.

Considering the Phelps family's law firm they are not ignorant of the law...they use the law to skirt the law.

Is 5mil excessive?...maybe if this was their first brush with the law...but it's not.  The appellate judge may rule it to be excessive.  If he doesn't and the Phelps' can't raise the 5mil in cash then their property may be seized to make up the difference.  Not much difference in what the IRS can and will do for back taxes owed.

Here's the interview with Albert Snyder...the father of Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew A. Snyder and Shirley Phelps regarding the suit.  The interviewer gives her hell!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3PyoUPcobA
Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOf
Post by: The Night Owl on April 07, 2008, 10:17:43 AM
You know how DUmmies are, they always pick and choose what they want to hear/read.   :whatever:  Which means they will ignore the fact he supported Al Gore for President.

Fred Phelps was not the crazy asshole he is now when he was a Democrat and a supporter of Al Gore. Al Gore would not want to have anything to do with the Phelps of today.



Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOffice
Post by: DixieBelle on April 07, 2008, 10:27:28 AM
You know how DUmmies are, they always pick and choose what they want to hear/read.   :whatever:  Which means they will ignore the fact he supported Al Gore for President.

Fred Phelps was not the crazy asshole he is now when he was a Democrat and a supporter of Al Gore. Al Gore would not want to have anything to do with the Phelps of today.




Spoken like a true apologist. Perhaps you're not familiar with the Phelps family and their long history? You should do your homework before spouting off.
Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOffice
Post by: The Night Owl on April 07, 2008, 10:34:05 AM
No, they just know that he's a "fundy who hates fags" so he must be like the rest of the Christians.



Fred Phelps is different from most mainstream Christians in that the tactics he uses to espouse his beliefs are confrontational and extreme, but his beliefs are more or less the same as those of most mainstream Christians. For instance, both Fred Phelps and most mainstream Christians believe that homosexuality is immoral and that those who live a homosexual lifestyle must repent.
Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOffice
Post by: The Night Owl on April 07, 2008, 10:36:53 AM
Spoken like a true apologist. Perhaps you're not familiar with the Phelps family and their long history? You should do your homework before spouting off.

Exactly who do you think I'm apologizing for?

I am well aware that Fred Phelps was at one point a Democrat, but I have not seen any evidence that he is a Democrat now or that he was a Democrat when he started his God Hates Fags campaign. I do, however, know of one interview during which Fred Phelps was asked about his politics and responded by saying that he considers Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority to be too liberal. If Fred Phelps considers Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority to be too liberal, then I think we must conclude that he considers himself to be on the far right of the political spectrum.

Trust me... The Fred Phelps is a Democrat tree is not a tree you want to be barking up.
Title: Re: FRED PHELPS (D) = 5 million dollar Lein put on Fred Phelp's Church and LawOffice
Post by: DixieBelle on April 07, 2008, 10:58:41 AM
Spoken like a true apologist. Perhaps you're not familiar with the Phelps family and their long history? You should do your homework before spouting off.

Exactly who do you think I'm apologizing for?

I am well aware that Fred Phelps was at one point a Democrat, but I have not seen any evidence that he is a Democrat now or that he was a Democrat when he started his God Hates Fags campaign. I do, however, know of one interview during which Fred Phelps was asked about his politics and responded by saying that he considers Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority to be too liberal. If Fred Phelps considers Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority to be too liberal, then I think we must conclude that he considers himself to be on the far right of the political spectrum.

Trust me... The Fred Phelps is a Democrat tree is not a tree you want to be barking up.
BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! You missed the point entirely my obtuse friend.