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Title: Loughner's political leanings are irrelevant
Post by: Freeper on January 11, 2011, 05:38:24 AM
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jan-11-11 02:53 AM
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Loughner's political leanings are irrelevant
   
A lot of the arguments over Loughner's motivations seem to be hinged on his political leanings. From what we know so far, that's not very clear -- both the left and right can make their case by picking out portions of information from his You-Tube, MySpace and Facebook posts.

But two things are clear:
(1) he hates government,
(2) he's deeply irrational.

Therefore,

someone who pays attention to government can't help but be exposed to the toxic political environment of the far-right. We have talk radio and some television commentators to thanks for that. Giffords, being his member of Congress, and someone who regularly interacted with her constituents, became the focus of his anger.

Someone who is deeply irrational is susceptible to the influence of that toxicity even if he does not fully comprehend what it means. Why? Because it stirs our imagination--we're either attracted to, or repulsed, by it. The violent insinuations of phrases like "second amendment remedies" and images like Palin's cross-hairs map, amplified in the media echo chamber, could eventually take on a life of its own inside the mind of a person who cannot rationally sort through it all.

And that's why I think Sheriff Dupnik was right to implicate the poisonous right-wing rhetoric, that's been polluting our lives for so many years, in this shooting.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x171252

How about some honesty DUmmies? For 8 years you ****wads were constantly saying how evil and fascist our govt is. This notion that somehow our complaining about what our govt is doing leads to violence is bogus. You boneheads accused our govt of killing 3000 of its own citizens on sep 11,2001.
You accuse our govt of murdering people around the world. Maybe it was the shit spewing from your mouths that taught this guy to hate govt.

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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jan-11-11 03:35 AM
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10. yes, true
   
i'm just saying that Loughner may not necessarily have the capacity to rationalize the information that's been thrown at him, esp. from the far right.

In a sense, he's also a victim of far right toxicity.

Oh yeah he's the victim. God, you ****s are stupid.

Title: Re: Loughner's political leanings are irrelevant
Post by: Carl on January 11, 2011, 06:09:59 AM
If there is one thing the left can be counted on it is to overplay its hand to the point of looking idiotic to that mushy middle it needs to fool in order to get their votes.

They will deny soon that the last 2 1/2 days ever happened.  :bird:
Title: Re: Loughner's political leanings are irrelevant
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 11, 2011, 06:34:25 AM
They will deny soon that the last 2 1/2 days ever happened.  :bird:
Until the next time at which point Loughner, like Joe Stack and the rest, become part of some amorphous pantheon of RW hatred.

I guaran-****ing-tee you they still subconsciously blame us for Randi Rhodes' drunken sidewalk dance.
Title: Re: Loughner's political leanings are irrelevant
Post by: dandi on January 11, 2011, 06:35:32 AM
If there is one thing the left can be counted on it is to overplay its hand to the point of looking idiotic to that mushy middle it needs to fool in order to get their votes.

They will deny soon that the last 2 1/2 days ever happened.  :bird:

True.  They are starting to run out of steam now that more is coming out.