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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on January 08, 2011, 12:26:19 PM
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-08-11 01:10 PM
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Dem. Rep. Giffords shot in Tucson
Edited on Sat Jan-08-11 01:19 PM by DesertRat
Just heard on local NPR radio station. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and 6 staffers were just shot at an outside event in Tucson, AZ.
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-s...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x137388
Trajan (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-08-11 01:15 PM
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7. Yikes ....
Not good ....
Citizens consumed with their hatreds, fueled by right wing talk media ....
Of course right away they say it's the teabaggers.
Odds are it's a lefty. Those on the left are the ones who are calling for violence not us.
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Cartel hit...She is a strong proponent of sealing the border.
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Cartel hit...She is a strong proponent of sealing the border.
That was my first thought too with what has been released so far.
Sounds like they caught the guy and hopefully she recovers and he is prosecuted to the full extent.
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Cartel hit...She is a strong proponent of sealing the border.
Interesting! basically goes against everything people at DU are saying.
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GSLevel9 (903 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-08-11 01:41 PM
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56. if it is a Mexican cartel shooter, I expect this could get uncomfortable.
My first thought was a 'bagger but she's a blue-dog, supports guns and border enforcement including National Guard at the border...
Might be a cartel shooter...
Prayers with Gabrielle.
MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-08-11 01:44 PM
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64. Speculating on who the shooter is is worthless.
We'll find out soon enough. Then we can discuss it.
Where were you squashing the out of hand speculating your fellow DU'ers have been doing by blaming this on the Tea Party?
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Oh and God Bless her and just said a prayer now that she's OK.
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DUmmies are ****ing retarded.
Replies to this thread
Oh oh RegieRocker Jan-08-11 01:11 PM #1
Expect more of this Horse with no Name Jan-08-11 01:12 PM #2
Why should we expect more of this? Rage for Order Jan-08-11 01:38 PM #48
Hate radio, teabaggers, rabid republicans Horse with no Name Jan-08-11 01:40 PM #53
The same predictions were made shortly after the election in 2008 Rage for Order Jan-08-11 01:42 PM #57
Maybe just a reaction from recent rhetoric? nt Lex Jan-08-11 01:43 PM #61
Gun-toting repukes stirred up by Rush, Palin, Beck. Lex Jan-08-11 01:41 PM #55
I think the OP is being deliberately obtuse. n/t Horse with no Name Jan-08-11 01:43 PM #59
The same thing was said during the tea bagger rallies over the summer Rage for Order Jan-08-11 01:43 PM #60
Maybe just as likely from recent rhetoric too. Lex Jan-08-11 01:44 PM #62
Because that is their mentality--lose the vote, invoke their "2nd Amendment solution." Dappleganger Jan-08-11 01:46 PM #67
OMG Ptah Jan-08-11 01:13 PM #3
oh god... boston bean Jan-08-11 01:13 PM #5
Are they going to survive? jaxx Jan-08-11 01:13 PM #4
Tuscon Citizen says shot in head at point blank range :( MH1 Jan-08-11 01:14 PM #6
Their website's obviously getting slammed Cowpunk Jan-08-11 01:23 PM #21
That link won't load toddwv Jan-08-11 01:27 PM #33
On NPR and Huffington Post now DesertRat Jan-08-11 01:34 PM #46
Yikes .... Trajan Jan-08-11 01:15 PM #7
Very bad news. I hope we find out more soon. MineralMan Jan-08-11 01:16 PM #8
NPR link MH1 Jan-08-11 01:17 PM #9
Thanks for the link, I updated my post DesertRat Jan-08-11 01:20 PM #14
Could that have something to do with it? Crystal Clarity Jan-08-11 01:41 PM #54
Just read her Wikipedia biography Cowpunk Jan-08-11 01:17 PM #10
Holy SHIT! OMG!!! Dennis Donovan Jan-08-11 01:17 PM #11
ALL RIGHT DEMOCRATS ARE YOU TAKING THIS SHIT SERIOUSLY YET!!? villager Jan-08-11 01:18 PM #12
Oh. God. The Backlash Cometh Jan-08-11 01:20 PM #13
WHY ARE SO MANY DEMOCRATS AND SO FEW REPUBLICANS reggie the dog Jan-08-11 01:21 PM #15
Because the Democratic party isn't a hate group like the Republicans are. n/t EFerrari Jan-08-11 01:22 PM #18
ah reggie the dog Jan-08-11 01:40 PM #52
Somebody said that as a joke here the other day. EFerrari Jan-08-11 01:45 PM #65
Looks like the war has begun nt guruoo Jan-08-11 01:21 PM #16
Nothing on CNN yet RagAss Jan-08-11 01:22 PM #17
Keep THIS KICKED RagAss Jan-08-11 01:23 PM #19
holy shit! eyeofdelphi Jan-08-11 01:23 PM #20
OMG!! Dappleganger Jan-08-11 01:24 PM #22
"The Second Amendment Remedy" CTyankee Jan-08-11 01:24 PM #23
Sharron Angle must be smiling. ClassWarrior Jan-08-11 01:25 PM #25
"Second amendment remedies" ... "reload" mzmolly Jan-08-11 01:24 PM #24
They have blood on their hands. Rockholm Jan-08-11 01:27 PM #32
kick DoBotherMe Jan-08-11 01:26 PM #26
Anyone getting through to the AZ sites, please post the info. jaxx Jan-08-11 01:26 PM #27
Here's another local source: Dennis Donovan Jan-08-11 01:27 PM #34
Thank you. jaxx Jan-08-11 01:32 PM #43
link from Phoenix: DesertRat Jan-08-11 01:45 PM #66
CNN News suston96 Jan-08-11 01:26 PM #28
HuffPo reported she was shot in the head. OMG. Vinca Jan-08-11 01:36 PM #47
point blank in the head. Just ****. cali Jan-08-11 01:42 PM #58
CNN saying 12 were injured. jaxx Jan-08-11 01:38 PM #50
if it is a Mexican cartel shooter, I expect this could get uncomfortable. GSLevel9 Jan-08-11 01:41 PM #56
Speculating on who the shooter is is worthless. MineralMan Jan-08-11 01:44 PM #64
What the hell are you blabbering about?
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Cartel hit...She is a strong proponent of sealing the border.
Sealed borders won't stop the cartels, based on her stance it seems entirely possible the shooter is a Reconquista irredentist (<-look it up, lurking DUmmies).
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What is sad and sick is this exchange on that thread.
GSLevel9 (903 posts) Sat Jan-08-11 01:41 PM
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56. if it is a Mexican cartel shooter, I expect this could get uncomfortable.
My first thought was a 'bagger but she's a blue-dog, supports guns and border enforcement including National Guard at the border...
Might be a cartel shooter...
Prayers with Gabrielle.
ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-08-11 01:46 PM
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68. What the hell are you blabbering about?
I'm in shock, but at least I'm not spouting gibberish.
NGU.
They don`t give a rats ass about her or her condition...they are just salivating at the possibility they can make a political issue of it.
Monstrously evil people. :censored:
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I think every act of violence so far that's been perpetrated has been done by leftists even though they keep saying Tea Party people are violent.
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There are crazy people all across the political spectrum, it's not impossible it was somebody our side will get stuck with label-wise by the MSM at least; really though the first thing is that I hope she recovers fully, the finger-pointing takes a back seat to that.
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So she's for securing the border, pro-life, and pro-2nd amendment. Sounds like a DINO, I'm surprised the DUmmies aren't celebrating.
I wasn't even going to log in today, but had to make sure the DUmp idiots were jumping to conclusions & blaming teabaggers, Beck, Hannity, Palin, Rush, etc.
Prayers to Rep. Giffords & her family.
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What's the shooters DU name?
Note to the lurkers....you're damn right I asked that. Get all pissy about it if you want to...but it's well documented in thread after thread at the DUmp that calls for violent revolution in this country if your precious elected Democrat party member doesn't turn us more and more into a Socialist utopia.
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So she's for securing the border, pro-life, and pro-2nd amendment. Sounds like a DINO, I'm surprised the DUmmies aren't celebrating.
I doubt most DUmmies are even aware of her positions on the issues. They see the (D) next to her name and automatically assume they know where she stands. :mental:
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NPR is reporting that she and 6 others have died.
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona
Prayers to her family.
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-08-11 01:48 PM
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72. Oh No!!!!! I am blaiming Brewer and her crazies for this....
it may not be fair or even right, but her brand of insanity fires up the already abundant number of whack jobs in this state. If it's not a political crazy in this case, it's only a matter of time.
Poor Rep Giffords...am sending prayers & light her way. Point blank in the head....oh dear......
NPR reporting she has died. :(
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona
The suspect ran off and was tackled by a bystander. He was taken into custody. Witnesses described him as in his late teens or early 20s.
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The suspect ran off and was tackled by a bystander. He was taken into custody. Witnesses described him as in his late teens or early 20s.
I notice they omit saying 'White' or 'Caucasian' man in his late teens or early 20s. I have my own supposition on the probable meaning of this, though of course it could be simply shitty reporting, being NPR.
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I notice they omit saying 'White' or 'Caucasian' man in his late teens or early 20s. I have my own supposition on the probable meaning of this, though of course it could be simply shitty reporting, being NPR.
I thought the same thing too!
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Jesus, That is horrible and sad for all victims families.
These dummies are real scumbags! They never cease to amaze me with their callus,evil outlooks.
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NPR reporting she has died. :(
:censored: Prayers for her family.
And I hope this moron that killed her tries to resist arrest.
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:censored: Prayers for her family.
And I hope this moron that killed her tries to resist arrest.
He should be shot by sundown. Unfortunately, they'll probably want to waste time and money on a 'trial'.
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Tragic. I heard that her husband is an astronaut who has flown two shuttle missions.
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This thread at the DUmp will go stone cold instantly if they announce a suspect with a Mexican-sounding name.
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or Arabic^^^
PMSNBC was wrong again? Now the DUmbasses are saying she's alive for now:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x138284
many dupes
they're disgusting me.
DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-08-11 02:25 PM
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For those who think we can reason with these ****s just remeber this day REMEMBER THIS DAY
Edited on Sat Jan-08-11 02:32 PM by DainBramaged
REMEMBER THIS DAY. THEY ONLY KNOW DEATH AND VIOLENCE. THEY WANT TO KILL US. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND REASON. REMEMBER THIS DAY. FIVE INNOCENTS DEAD SIX WOUNDED. REMEMBER THIS DAY.
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This thread at the DUmp will go stone cold instantly if they announce a suspect with a Mexican-sounding name.
Since the ****er was caught right away, the lack of any info about him beyond just his gender is, let us say, rather curious.
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I notice they omit saying 'White' or 'Caucasian' man in his late teens or early 20s. I have my own supposition on the probable meaning of this, though of course it could be simply shitty reporting, being NPR.
I was thinking the same thing.
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This thread at the DUmp will go stone cold instantly if they announce a suspect with a Mexican-sounding name.
If that is the case and given the age of the attacker (if that is correct) I think very likely mark my words here,the DUmp will immediately pivot and declare that it was a poor person justifiably angered by mean conservatives wanting to break up his family and we really need amnesty to deal with his rage.
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PMSNBC is saying that she's alive. They talked to one person who supposedly saw her in an OR alive, and a county sheriff whose SWAT MD saw her alive.
FNC is now saying that she's alive in critical condition.
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LOL, check out this thread:
montanacowboy (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-08-11 02:40 PM
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She was shot because she wasn't liberal enough?
Thomas Fuentes on CNN now says it could have come from the left, those that felt she was not liberal enough!
OMG
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x138504
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LOL, check out this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x138504
Peter Johnson of FNC is saying that she's the first Jewish congresswoman elected from Arizona . . .
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-08-11 02:41 PM
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1. wow, the rightwing spin doesn't even wait for the usual grieving time to commence
n/t
Took you goons about 3 seconds to say this was done by right wingers.
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KathieG (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-08-11 02:53 PM
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I predict they will withhold the name of the shooter...
long enough to allow people to scrub the internet of any teabagger connections and/or connections to any prominent conservatives.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x138801
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x138801
They will convince themselves this was a hit job from the tea party no matter what the evidence shows.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-08-11 02:41 PM
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1. wow, the rightwing spin doesn't even wait for the usual grieving time to commence
KathieG (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-08-11 02:53 PM
Original message
I predict they will withhold the name of the shooter...
long enough to allow people to scrub the internet of any teabagger connections and/or connections to any prominent conservatives.
Oh FFS...Freeper...I need to borrow your picture...its fitting for these two comments...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/smadurski/kooldu.jpg)
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It doesn't matter who the shooter turns out to be. He could be a schizophrenic communist from Sri Lanka and their story will be the same.
They'll still either blame "the climate of hate created by RW radio" or fall back on the time-honored "it's a shame but understandable how we would assume it was conservatives given their history and behavior blah blah blah".
That's always been their m.o. and they're never going to change.
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RIP Hang on, Ms. Giffords. My heart cries out to your family and your friends and supporters.
Now, see how your average national party members are treating your death shooting...
KathieG (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-08-11 02:53 PM
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I predict they will withhold the name of the shooter...
long enough to allow people to scrub the internet of any teabagger connections and/or connections to any prominent conservatives.
Oh, yes, of course...so when the shooter's name is released with no GOP connection then the ASSUMPTION will be made that the GOP did this.
My own interpretation of this was that this was a Mexican Drug cartel hit, but that is all it is at this time: an interpretation.
EDIT: Turned out I was wrong, see later post.
Votesmart bio: http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=28507
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The vicious DUmmy Cleita, fraternal twin of the vicious DUmmy Warpy, doesn't sound too sincere:
Cleita (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-08-11 03:20 PM
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8. I hope she survives, but if she dies, maybe this is the opening salvo that will bring end irresponsible media.
It has nothing to do with First Amendment rights but responsible journalism.
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Press conference from Tucson to begin any minute now.
Lots of wild rumors on all of the cable channels, and I'm sure ever crazier shit at the DUmp.
If it turns out that the shooter(s) were right-wing tea party supporters, 0bama may have his own Oklahoma City-type situation.
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Press conference from Tucson to begin any minute now.
Lots of wild rumors on all of the cable channels, and I'm sure ever crazier shit at the DUmp.
If it turns out that the shooter(s) were right-wing tea party supporters, 0bama may have his own Oklahoma City-type situation.
An AZ State Senator, Linda Lopez, who is a friend of Congresswoman Giffords', said that the shooter is reportedly an Afghan War vet.
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Turns out her own DAD thinks the Tea Party did it...
Ariz. Congresswoman Giffords shot; Dad: 'Entire Tea Party' her enemy
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/ariz_congresswoman_shot_in_head_YFTvsurRHy5OWGSRKnuK8J#ixzz1ATapcbLU
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An AZ State Senator, Linda Lopez, who is a friend of Congresswoman Giffords', said that the shooter is reportedly an Afghan War vet.
That disproves my earlier Cartel reference. I'll go back and edit that out as well.
I hate to say it, campers, but the Tea Party may be seriously hit hard on this one. You know the socialists are going to rally HARD around this. Sad, sad day.
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Turns out her own DAD thinks the Tea Party did it...
Ariz. Congresswoman Giffords shot; Dad: 'Entire Tea Party' her enemy
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/ariz_congresswoman_shot_in_head_YFTvsurRHy5OWGSRKnuK8J#ixzz1ATapcbLU
EDIT:
That disproves my earlier Cartel reference. I'll go back and edit that out as well.
I hate to say it, campers, but the Tea Party may be seriously hit hard on this one. You know the socialists are going to rally HARD around this. Sad, sad day.
The tea party is going to get hit on this even if they find the shooter's hero is Karl Marx.
The left is just itchin to point their fingers and say, "See, they are violent".
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More class at the DUmp,
cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-08-11 03:09 PM
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**** you, Sarah Palin!
**** you, **** you, **** you!
Take your fake sympathies and go **** yourself.
The blood is on you. Every life lost today is on you!
**** you, you worthless bitch!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x139203
cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-08-11 03:12 PM
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6. Normally, I don't do this...
But I'm enraged by her fake sympathies knowing that she put a target on Gabrielle Gifford.
You idiot the target was to defeat her at the polls not, shoot her. Hell Pelosi targeted a ton of Republicans as well.
Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-08-11 03:21 PM
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11. Two words: murderous bitch.
Oh yeah, one more word: RESPONSIBLE
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That disproves my earlier Cartel reference. I'll go back and edit that out as well.
Not necessarily. There are incidents of Iraq/Afghan vets involved in gangs as kids and then bringning their training home, particularly in the SW. Guy may be right, left, criminal, or God knows what, we just don't know yet.
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Jared Laughtner. 22. Honkie. So saith Shep.
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I hate to say it, campers, but the Tea Party may be seriously hit hard on this one. You know the socialists are going to rally HARD around this. Sad, sad day.
You know, this comment really pisses me off, all you're doing is playing into the hands of the frothing at the mouth regressives. I don't know of anyone involved in the Tea Party movement that has ever advocated violence. There have been 3 incidents of violence since Obama became President and ALL 3 have been perpetrated by the left even though it was initially blamed on the right. This is the game regressives play when trying to marginalize people they disagree with.
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You know, this comment really pisses me off, all you're doing is playing into the hands of the frothing at the mouth regressives. I don't know of anyone involved in the Tea Party movement that has ever advocated violence. There have been 3 incidents of violence since Obama became President and ALL 3 have been perpetrated by the left even though it was initially blamed on the right. This is the game regressives play when trying to marginalize people they disagree with.
:clap:
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You know, this comment really pisses me off, all you're doing is playing into the hands of the frothing at the mouth regressives. I don't know of anyone involved in the Tea Party movement that has ever advocated violence. There have been 3 incidents of violence since Obama became President and ALL 3 have been perpetrated by the left even though it was initially blamed on the right. This is the game regressives play when trying to marginalize people they disagree with.
They still blame the Tea Party for those 3 incidents.
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This is his youtube link:
He just looks like a mentally ill punk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHoaZaLbqB4
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With the information released so far it seems he is a complete lunatic.
He is reported to be a veteran of the Afghanistan war.
If and again if needs to be stressed this is correct,it is only a matter of time before the DUmp finds sympathy again for the guy as being in his state of lunacy from his service and it is Bushes fault.
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That was my first thought too with what has been released so far.
Sounds like they caught the guy and hopefully she recovers and he is prosecuted to the full extent.
+1 my thoughts exactly.
bambi is on now. I'm waiting for the call out for more gun control.
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+1 my thoughts exactly.
bambi is on now. I'm waiting for the call out for more gun control.
Shockingly, he didn't--yet.
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You know, this comment really pisses me off, all you're doing is playing into the hands of the frothing at the mouth regressives. I don't know of anyone involved in the Tea Party movement that has ever advocated violence. There have been 3 incidents of violence since Obama became President and ALL 3 have been perpetrated by the left even though it was initially blamed on the right. This is the game regressives play when trying to marginalize people they disagree with.
Whoa, whoa. I know the statement pisses you off, but the implication is that you are pissed at ME for saying it. I have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that a REAL tea-partier was NOT involved.
My statement is that this allows the lunatic fringe on the left with a lot of political ammunition to use AGAINST the tea party. Keep in mind the fight is NOT to derail actual tea party members. The fight is to PREVENT those whom are moving TOWARD the Tea Party from actually joining its ranks.
Knowing the socialist mentality, it is vital to understand that, in their mind, this shooting is a MAJOR TRUMP CARD to use at virtually any issue involving issues that involve constitutional principles. The postings at DU prove it, Olberman's and Maddow's special shows tonight will prove it, and you can BET that EVERY "conventional" newscast tonight on NBC, CBS, and ABC will have "Does the Tea Party Incite Violence" segments no matter WHOM shooter Jared Loughner's motives turn out to be.
Bally, if you are going to be pissed (and you should), then make sure where the anger is directed. DU does NOT need MY post to get riled up over this.
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bambi is on now. I'm waiting for the call out for more gun control.
Gun control is not on the mind on the left as much, yet. Their FIRST and FOREMOST targets (not a pun, but not with VIOLENT intent) are Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.
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Whoa, whoa. I know the statement pisses you off, but the implication is that you are pissed at ME for saying it. I have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that a REAL tea-partier was NOT involved.
My statement is that this allows the lunatic fringe on the left with a lot of political ammunition to use AGAINST the tea party. Keep in mind the fight is NOT to derail actual tea party members. The fight is to PREVENT those whom are moving TOWARD the Tea Party from actually joining its ranks.
Knowing the socialist mentality, it is vital to understand that, in their mind, this shooting is a MAJOR TRUMP CARD to use at virtually any issue involving issues that involve constitutional principles. The postings at DU prove it, Olberman's and Maddow's special shows tonight will prove it, and you can BET that EVERY "conventional" newscast tonight on NBC, CBS, and ABC will have "Does the Tea Party Incite Violence" segments no matter WHOM shooter Jared Loughner's motives turn out to be.
Bally, if you are going to be pissed (and you should), then make sure where the anger is directed. DU does NOT need MY post to get riled up over this.
And I refuse to give them the power to hold that over my head. The Tea Party never has nor ever will advocate violence, and that's the point I make to the left no matter how much they want to turn it around for their own nefarious purposes. The point is moot now anyone because the shooter is a kook!
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With the information released so far it seems he is a complete lunatic.
He is reported to be a veteran of the Afghanistan war.
If and again if needs to be stressed this is correct,it is only a matter of time before the DUmp finds sympathy again for the guy as being in his state of lunacy from his service and it is Bushes fault.
Well, that didn't take long:
readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-08-11 04:53 PM
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12. Nothing like this. FR posters are mean and vicious. This person is schizophrenic/delusional.
He is clearly mentally ill. Certainly right-wing rhetoric influenced his actions. I also think any kind of strong rhetoric could've done it. If we had real health care in this country--real care for veterans--this wouldn't've happened. I don't think people understand the depth of psychosis people are experiencing after engagement with the US military. I've even seen people have PTSD BEFORE deployment. It's that bad.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x141023
Actually, I think the DUmp gets pretty boring when one of these big events happens. It's like they all have a super buzz on, and there's just no creativity or originality. The DUmp at its best is entertaining. It's like watching one of those ant farms, with the white sandy stuff where they build tunnels and rooms, and go about the entertaining business of being ants. As kid, I had one of those ant farms and thought it was kind of fascinating. A big event at the DUmp is like when your big brother comes into the room, picks up the ant farm, and gives it a couple of hard shakes. You can still watch the ants, but all that frenzied discombobulation gets old pretty quickly.
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And I refuse to give them the power to hold that over my head. The Tea Party never has nor ever will advocate violence, and that's the point I make to the left no matter how much they want to turn it around for their own nefarious purposes. The point is moot now anyone because the shooter is a kook!
You and I are 100% in agreement over the Tea Party then. Definitely a capital case candidate, though it will most probably take over 15 years assuming guilty verdict and DP sentencing (i.e., if he's not found insane).
However, I do disagree that the point is "moot". The left is now going to make a full frontal assault on the Tea Party based upon this murderer's actions (he killed two others so far).
Keep in mind, their primary focus is to derail Sarah Palin, as she is their #1 target on their hit list (no pun intended, but not going to PC this in any way). The Tea Party is incidental, but I suspect the biggest winner today is Mitt Romney.
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I suspect the biggest winner today is Mitt Romney.
Not going to think in terms of "winners" just yet. The biggest loser is the United States of America, as this will prove to be a seminal event in our country's history, I'm afraid . . .
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Sealed borders won't stop the cartels, based on her stance it seems entirely possible the shooter is a Reconquista irredentist (<-look it up, lurking DUmmies).
That's possible. In 1978, there was a riot in East Houston that was incited by Travis Morales, which is not his real name, as he is White, not Hispanic. He is a Communist and Revolutionary.
http://blogs.chron.com/bayoucityhistory/2010/05/social_studies_project_focuses_on_torres_case_chic.html
Travis Morales writing on the riot.
http://revcom.us/a/v20/960-69/960/moody.htm
Dangerous Times--A Time For Heroes
http://rwor.org/a/v19/950-59/956/travis.htm
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harvey007 (644 posts) Sat Jan-08-11 05:48 PM
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Photo of the alleged gunman
http://www.kold.com/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x142205
Never can tell, but he looks like one of theirs.
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With the information released so far it seems he is a complete lunatic.
He is reported to be a veteran of the Afghanistan war.
If and again if needs to be stressed this is correct,it is only a matter of time before the DUmp finds sympathy again for the guy as being in his state of lunacy from his service and it is Bushes fault.
If he is in fact a vet I'm wondering how someone as shithouse rat crazy as him ever made past MEPS.
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PhillySane (296 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-08-11 05:30 PM
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369. Glad to be here!
Palin is a killer. Plain and simple. Whether is be poor defenseless animals or Democrats she likes to put her sick "sights" on. That is a clear sign of her true inner feelings. So don't start bringing the Lord into this Sarah, when your ass is in the hot seat! Man up!
I've had a Pain for President sticker on my truck since one week after obama got elected. I'm not taking it off now.
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I've had a Pain for President sticker on my truck since one week after obama got elected. I'm not taking it off now.
They are so itching to blame this on Palin.
I got into a huge fight on facebook with morons who said her graphic targeting congress people in several districts was inciting violence.
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Uh oh:
Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-08-11 05:30 PM
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Here comes the spin..."Friend" on twitter who hasn't talked to shooter since 2007 calls him liberal
catieparker:As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.
I expect we'll eventually learn his DUmp name.
He was clearly influenced by the hateful rhetoric at the DUmp against Blue Dog Democrats. A lot of the DUmpmonkeys are saying he was psychotic, even more proof of his DUmp membership.
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The news said that he was mad because they gave him a bible in boot camp and was rambling on all over the internet about government mind control using grammar. Sounds like a typical DUmmy to me.
Anyone know where the subway cat was today?
The families of the dead and wounded are in my thoughts and prayers today. :taps:
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Hear, hear, Doc. And Bibles in boot camp? Since when?
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Hear, hear, Doc. And Bibles in boot camp? Since when?
The Chaplains handed them out to who ever wanted one on one of the fist days I was there. It was never forced on anyone.
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The Chaplains handed them out to who ever wanted one on one of the fist days I was there. It was never forced on anyone.
Pretty much how I remember it as well. Then again, I only saw the chaplain once in boot outside Sunday services.
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Uh oh:
I expect we'll eventually learn his DUmp name.
He was clearly influenced by the hateful rhetoric at the DUmp against Blue Dog Democrats. A lot of the DUmpmonkeys are saying he was psychotic, even more proof of his DUmp membership.
I remember someone used to be a moderator at DU until he got banned for speaking out against anti-Semitism at DU. It was a while back.
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From the local paper:
http://www.freep.com/article/20110108/NEWS07/110108016/1318/Giffords-shot-outlook-is-optimistic-at-least-5-killed-in-Ariz.-shooting
Loughner described inventing a new U.S. currency and complained about the illiteracy rate
"I know who's listening: Government Officials, and the People," Loughner wrote. "Nearly all the people, who don't know this accurate information of a new currency, aren't aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn't have happen" <------ Not AP but shooters quote
He sounds like a conservative all right. Ask DU. We all sound this way.