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Title: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: DefiantSix on January 08, 2011, 12:00:02 AM
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Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20027837-501465.html)
Posted by Declan McCullagh
January 7, 2011 4:31 PM

STANFORD, Calif. - President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

It's "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said.

That news, first reported by CNET, effectively pushes the department to the forefront of the issue, beating out other potential candidates including the National Security Agency and the Department of Homeland Security. The move also is likely to please privacy and civil liberties groups that have raised concerns in the past over the dual roles of police and intelligence agencies.

The announcement came at an event today at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research, where U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke and Schmidt spoke.

The Obama administration is currently drafting what it's calling the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace, which Locke said will be released by the president in the next few months. (An early version was publicly released last summer.)

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""We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system."

Yeah, right.  :bs2flag:
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Evil_Conservative on January 08, 2011, 12:14:56 AM
Yeah do that and I will stop using the internet.  I'll go back to the dinosaur age if I have to.
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: theconservative on January 08, 2011, 12:20:57 AM
We already have an internet I.D., its called an I.P. address. What more do we need?
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: LC EFA on January 08, 2011, 12:44:00 AM
Quote from: theconservative on January 08, 2011, 12:20:57 AM
We already have an internet I.D., its called an I.P. address. What more do we need?

Just think of being issued your own , permanent IP address at birth that you can't change and must use. IPv6 has sufficient address space.

Current IP addresses or rather the allocation thereof , even the IPv6 ones are so dynamic as to be worthless for such a thing.

ETA : Just think of it as your own personal MAC address.
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Attero Dominatus on January 08, 2011, 06:44:25 AM
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"We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

:bsmeter:

This is all about control. The progressives want a system similar to China.
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Laelth on January 08, 2011, 06:57:27 AM
Quote from: Attero Dominatus on January 08, 2011, 06:44:25 AM
The progressives want a system similar to China.

I don't know how many progressives you know, but the ones I know are livid about this.  You'll note that the famously pro-business Department of Commerce is getting the job.  This idea is fascist, and I am not sure which law authorizes it, but I would strongly support its repeal.

-Laelth
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Attero Dominatus on January 08, 2011, 07:13:08 AM
Quote from: Laelth on January 08, 2011, 06:57:27 AM
I don't know how many progressives you know, but the ones I know are livid about this.  You'll note that the famously pro-business Department of Commerce is getting the job.  This idea is fascist, and I am not sure which law authorizes it, but I would strongly support its repeal.

-Laelth

Progressives are livid about the healthcare bill too, because instead of giving them their singlepayer system (yet), it just mandated everyone to buy insurance and made healthcare more expensive. The progressives in power do not care about their own base. They see everyone as subjects.
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Laelth on January 08, 2011, 07:16:54 AM
Quote from: Attero Dominatus on January 08, 2011, 07:04:00 AM
The progressives got livid about the healthcare bill too, since all it did was make existing medicine more expensive and mandate everyone to purchase endurance instead of giving them their precious singlepayer system (yet). The progressives in power do not care about their own base. They see everyone as subjects.

You're absolutely right about several things here.  I strongly favor repeal of that law.  I wrote a number of letters, even made several phone calls, trying to get members of the House Progressive Caucus to stand their ground and vote against that law, but they were good soldiers and caved to Obama's demands.  They sold out their constituents.  I don't deny that.

Personally, I don't see any progressives "in power."  And I have no idea how they "see" their constituents, but it doesn't really matter because the progressives in government have no power--none that they're willing to use, in any event.

-Laelth
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 08, 2011, 07:45:43 AM
Quote from: Laelth on January 08, 2011, 07:16:54 AM
Personally, I don't see any progressives "in power."  And I have no idea how they "see" their constituents, but it doesn't really matter because the progressives in government have no power--none that they're willing to use, in any event.

BSed for not recognizing that the Obamessiah is still President, and Dingy Harry Reid is still majority leader of the US Senate.
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Laelth on January 08, 2011, 07:59:26 AM
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on January 08, 2011, 07:45:43 AM
BSed for not recognizing that the Obamessiah is still President, and Dingy Harry Reid is still majority leader of the US Senate.

And neither of them is progressive.

Although I recognize that many people want to call them progressives (because that's useful to maintain the divisive left-right narrative in this country), the intelligent people on this board have read enough of DU to know that progressives are furious with both of them, and that neither of them will stand up for progressive values when push comes to shove.

-Laelth
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Attero Dominatus on January 08, 2011, 08:01:18 AM
Quote from: Laelth on January 08, 2011, 07:16:54 AM
You're absolutely right about several things here.  I strongly favor repeal of that law.  I wrote a number of letters, even made several phone calls, trying to get members of the House Progressive Caucus to stand their ground and vote against that law, but they were good soldiers and caved to Obama's demands.  They sold out their constituents.  I don't deny that.

Personally, I don't see any progressives "in power."  And I have no idea how they "see" their constituents, but it doesn't really matter because the progressives in government have no power--none that they're willing to use, in any event.

-Laelth

Obama and the democrats in power are wealth redistributors. They want to punish those who earn and give to those who choose not to. Why? Because dependency on government is another means to control.
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: DefiantSix on January 08, 2011, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: LC EFA on January 08, 2011, 12:44:00 AM
Just think of being issued your own , permanent IP address at birth that you can't change and must use. IPv6 has sufficient address space.

Current IP addresses or rather the allocation thereof , even the IPv6 ones are so dynamic as to be worthless for such a thing.

ETA : Just think of it as your own personal MAC address.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GCbSd1PXxM[/youtube]

"ATTENTION PROGRAM: You will receive an identity disk.  Everything you do or learn will be imprinted on this disk.  If you lose your disk, or fail to follow commands, you will be subject to immediate de-resolution."
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Randy on January 08, 2011, 12:14:16 PM
Dept. of Commerce = Future Revenue Enhancement
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Lacarnut on January 08, 2011, 05:10:00 PM
Quote from: LC EFA on January 08, 2011, 12:44:00 AM
Just think of being issued your own , permanent IP address at birth that you can't change and must use. IPv6 has sufficient address space.

Current IP addresses or rather the allocation thereof , even the IPv6 ones are so dynamic as to be worthless for such a thing.

ETA : Just think of it as your own personal MAC address.

Illegals that break the law don't have to carry any form of identification on their possession though. What a joke this administration is. 
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on January 08, 2011, 05:18:04 PM
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Tucker on January 09, 2011, 07:32:03 AM
It's all a plot by Der Skimmer to get rid of his mole problem.
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Freeper on January 09, 2011, 09:20:54 AM
Bet you anything this shooting yesterday will speed up the process on this internet ID plan.
before you know it any and all metaphors that sound violent will be considered hate speech.
Just imagine if you can go to jail for saying we need to battle the democrats in nov.
 :banghead:
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 09, 2011, 11:58:18 AM
Obama Administration Reportedly Plans to Create Internet ID for All Americans
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/08/report-obama-administration-plans-create-internet-id-americans/

I don't like this one bit.
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: Lacarnut on March 08, 2011, 03:26:27 PM
Here is hoping that we will put him out of our misery come election time. It is going to take 20 years to undo the bad crap he will have done in 4. 
Title: Re: Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans
Post by: CG6468 on March 09, 2011, 08:28:45 AM
If obastard is "planning" it, that just means that everything's in place to activate it.   :bird:  :argh: