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Harry Hope (85 posts) Thu Jan-06-11 04:54 PM
Original message
Republicans kill global warming committee
Source: The Guardian
Republicans kill global warming committee
Thursday 6 January 2011
Kate Sheppard for Mother Jones
The kick-off of the 112th Congress on Wednesday also marked the end of an era in the House – the demise of a committee devoted solely to climate change and energy issues. The Select Committee for Energy Independence and Global Warming, created by Nancy Pelosi in 2006, has been shuttered under the new Republican leadership. In the final days of the committee, staffers released a report on what the committee accomplished in its brief tenure – an epitaph of sorts.
Tackling issues from the politicisation of climate science to the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon, the committee held 80 hearings and briefings. It played a role in shaping policy for the 2007 energy bill, the 2009 stimulus package (which included $90bn <$58bn> in energy, efficiency, and other green elements), and, of course, the 2009 climate bill (the one that never became law, of course, because the Senate didn't act on it).
The final report concludes with the question of whether the United States will respond to all the information that the committee has compiled during its lifespan on the climate and energy challenge:
Someday, our children and grandchildren will look back on the record of the Select Committee. That record will reflect a respectful and rigorous debate and an unprecedented understanding of the challenges before us. Whether or not they will see that this generation has taken the bold action required by these challenges remains to be seen.
Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jan/06/repub...
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Forgive them, father, for they know not what they do
Harry
I saw this at the Guardian and wanted to post it myself but did the obligatory dupe-check. As a side note I'd like to mention the advertisement in the right margin of the Guardian site was selling a 4 DVD set "celebrating" 50 years of Cuban history.
The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:01 PM
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3. WOW!!! How can we stop this insanity?
Teaser (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. we can't.
speaking as a scientist...we're ****ing doomed.
:jerkit:
niceypoo (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. All we can do is hope they overreach
Eventually the rest of the world is going to say, '**** you,' to their madness and stop doing business with us.
America's private sector unions thank-you for your support.
GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Yep. And hope that our governors and mayors can do what they can on their own.
If only there was an amendment within the constitution that would allow them to do that.
niceypoo (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:05 PM
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5. They are a suicide cult
They are a suicide cult where love of money has replace God as the object of adulation. The 'God' part only serves to excuse the greed.
Why would I need to be suicidal when libs want to stand me up against a wall?
dazzlerazzle (324 posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:31 PM
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13. global warming committee, next the entire EPA?
The tea party has been very vocal in opposition to EPA regulations. They may move to kill individual regulations or to even abolish the entire department. It wouldn't clear the Senate or the veto, but the possibility of starving the funding of the department would be devastating.
Working on it.
apnu (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:52 PM
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22. I'd love to see them try.
If they try to shutter the EPA (founded by Nixon no less) they'll get tossed in 2012.
I'll take that dare.
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:33 PM
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14. ... and further proving the dangers of this subject to capitalists/elites who caused it ...
Most of all, they don't want the public coming to any understanding of that
fact while the public can still bring them to any accountabilit for it!!
Denial confirms the truth.
we can do it (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:41 PM
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15. Don't Forgive the ****ers, Run Their Ignorant Asses Out
It's called a ballot and it's how we ran you out.
The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 06:06 PM
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25. It will be for another country to show leadership on this issue.
Uh huh.
India and China refuse to committ economic suicide. The EU is back-peddling and Japan won't renew the Kyoto Protocols named after their own damned city.
FarCenter (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 06:07 PM
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26. Doesn't matter -- oil and coal will run out before global warming becomes critical
Global oil production is at a plateau and will decline as all the major fields become exhausted in the next few decades.
Easily extracted coal reserves are similarly being exhausted. Although US and China have extensive remaining reserves, these are either geographically remote, in thin seams, or deep.
We have already produced half of the CO2 that will ever be produced from fossil fuels. The other half won't cause a significantly greater problem.
The blather about "peak oil" is bullshit...but if it gets them to shut-up.
valerief (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 06:10 PM
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29. when will another country invade us and throw out these despots? nt
Someone shoot this **** yesterday.
Frisbee (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 06:12 PM
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30. I don't think it's hyperbole to say...
we're doomed. Maybe not in 5 years or even 10 or 20, but I think in less than 50 years this planet will be virtually unrecognizable by today's standards. There are so many things headed in the wrong direction, but climate change has the potential to dwarf all other problems, and I suspect will.
That's what you ass clowns said 40 years ago.
Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 06:25 PM
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33. You know, you could pretty much just shorten that headline and use it for everything
"Republicans Kill"
Excellent.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4685394
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Can liberalism be better defined than this worthless committee? They claim global warming is an urget issue, form a committee that does nothing but talk about it for 4 years, and then cry because the worthless committee can't sit around another 2 years and talk about it while doing nothing. It's like the war on poverty or any of the other nonsense they embrace; results don't matter to the libs, just the symbolism that they really care.
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:05 PM
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5. They are a suicide cult
They are a suicide cult where love of money has replace God as the object of adulation. The 'God' part only serves to excuse the greed.
Uh, you first DUmbass! If ya haven't noticed, that is exactly our intent! Remember, down the sidewalk, not across the tracks! After we are rid of enough of you morons, maybe we can get our gene pool back on track!
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:33 PM
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14. ... and further proving the dangers of this subject to capitalists/elites who caused it ...
Most of all, they don't want the public coming to any understanding of that
fact while the public can still bring them to any accountabilit for it!!
Hey stooooopid! I do believe that is what the people just did in November! Where ya been? Or do ya think the landslide was just a fluke? hehehehehehehehehehe!!!
You and your ilk are the very reason DemoncRats are headed down the crapper! You were wrong! It has been proven, if ya had the balls to actually look it up!
As a side note, just what in the hell did we need this stinkin' committee for in the first ****in' place? Christ, you people and the MSM have been preachin' this shit with the help of Super Duper Scientist, AlGore for 20 ****in' years! Why do we need anyone else to lie to us? Just gubmint waste, plain and simple! It's redundant!
If ya haven't noticed DUmbass, we're ****in' BROKE! We have no more money! Unlike what you pricks think, the Treasury is not a bottomless pit!
Buy a ****in' vowel for cripes sake!
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Tackling issues from the politicisation of climate science to the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon, the committee held 80 hearings and briefings. It played a role in shaping policy for the 2007 energy bill, the 2009 stimulus package (which included $90bn <$58bn> in energy, efficiency, and other green elements), and, of course, the 2009 climate bill (the one that never became law, of course, because the Senate didn't act on it).
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem here, Harry. This is the reason you moonbats are no longer in control of the House.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Sanity really does scare the shit out of the DUmbasses.
The EPA won't go away but it's budget can be cut by 80%.
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Republicans kill global warming committee
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valerief (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 06:10 PM
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29. when will another country invade us and throw out these despots? nt
mexico is working on it sweetheart but do you really think they give 2 shits and a rolling donut about global warming?
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dazzlerazzle (324 posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:31 PM
Response to Original message
13. global warming committee, next the entire EPA?
The tea party has been very vocal in opposition to EPA regulations. They may move to kill individual regulations or to even abolish the entire department. It wouldn't clear the Senate or the veto, but the possibility of starving the funding of the department would be devastating.
While the EPA may never go away their power most definitely needs to be curtailed. These people are a nightmare to deal with.
KC
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Things like OSHA, the EPA, etc., should enforce the laws made by Congress and signed into law by the President. Not create their own f'n laws, without Congressional input or oversight. That is a HUGE problem with executive committees and administrations, and something that needs to be cut the hell out. Laws aren't supposed to originate in the Executive office.
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Republicans kill global warming committee
:cheersmate:
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Frisbee (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 06:12 PM
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30. I don't think it's hyperbole to say...
we're doomed. Maybe not in 5 years or even 10 or 20, but I think in less than 50 years this planet will be virtually unrecognizable by today's standards. There are so many things headed in the wrong direction, but climate change has the potential to dwarf all other problems, and I suspect will.
Put an ice cube in some area where the temperature is slightly above freezing and try to have the patience to watch it melt completely. Now, apply that to the sheer volume of ice on the entire planet.
Next, throw a pebble against a freight train and see if that stops it.
You've got your answer to how much humanity impacts climate, which is zero, just like your intelligence. :loser:
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Frisbee (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 06:12 PM
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30. I don't think it's hyperbole to say...
we're doomed. Maybe not in 5 years or even 10 or 20, but I think in less than 50 years this planet will be virtually unrecognizable by today's standards. There are so many things headed in the wrong direction, but climate change has the potential to dwarf all other problems, and I suspect will.
Isn't it your philosophy that the earth is over-inhabited, asshat? Just think of it as population control and go crawl back under your rock! Hopefully it's in the middle of the new Sahara!
Do the world a favor and jump off!
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It's a good thing that conservatives are the fear mongers.
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 06:07 PM
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26. Doesn't matter -- oil and coal will run out before global warming becomes critical
Global oil production is at a plateau and will decline as all the major fields become exhausted in the next few decades.
Easily extracted coal reserves are similarly being exhausted. Although US and China have extensive remaining reserves, these are either geographically remote, in thin seams, or deep.
We have already produced half of the CO2 that will ever be produced from fossil fuels. The other half won't cause a significantly greater problem.
Now, wait just a minute here. Weren't you idiots the ones that were saying that unless we do something NOW! NOW! RIGHT NOW! DON'T WAIT FOR TOMORROW, IT HAS TO BE NOW!!! that it will be too late to stop global warming, for decades now? And now you say that it will be a few decades before "global warming becomes critical"? So, which is it, you loons?
The correct answer, is neither. There is no global warming (except from natural causes like Mr. Sun), and we won't be running out of oil and coal anytime soon, especially when we have so much oil shale. Any energy problems we may be facing is because of people like you constantly preventing us from exploring and drilling for oil (never mind that you don't seem to have problems with other countries doing the same thing, even near our shorelines), and building new refineries and nuclear power plants. You're like the cholesterol that blocks the flow of life-giving fuel to the nation.
Oh, and I still haven't gotten an answer on my question: What is the correct temperature of the earth?
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Oh, and I still haven't gotten an answer on my question: What is the correct temperature of the earth?
I vote for 72°F! At least where I live! Of course it can only be below 3,000ft since we need the snow up higher in order for me to go fishin'!
Makes as much sense as glowball warming!
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Oh, and I still haven't gotten an answer on my question: What is the correct temperature of the earth?
Seven
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Oh, and I still haven't gotten an answer on my question: What is the correct temperature of the earth?
It's obviously the same as the answer to 1+1 . . .
POTATO!
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The correct answer, is neither. There is no global warming (except from natural causes like Mr. Sun), and we won't be running out of oil and coal anytime soon, especially when we have so much oil shale. Any energy problems we may be facing is because of people like you constantly preventing us from exploring and drilling for oil (never mind that you don't seem to have problems with other countries doing the same thing, even near our shorelines), and building new refineries and nuclear power plants. You're like the cholesterol that blocks the flow of life-giving fuel to the nation.
There is actually 'forbidden' science that speculates that petroleum is only partially from decomposing dead things, and that the vast majority of it is a byproduct of plate tectonics -- basically suggesting that one will find oil anywhere if one digs deep enough. -- It explains why formerly 'dry' wells end up with oil in them again
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There is actually 'forbidden' science that speculates that petroleum is only partially from decomposing dead things, and that the vast majority of it is a byproduct of plate tectonics -- basically suggesting that one will find oil anywhere if one digs deep enough. -- It explains why formerly 'dry' wells end up with oil in them again
I've read that. Rocks rubing together under high presure....and it's been proven in the lab that it can happen.
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The correct temperature of the earth should be, 42.
:-)
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:03 PM
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4. we can't.
speaking as a scientist...we're ****ing doomed.
I remember when I was about 8 and got my first microscope, I thought I was a scientist too.
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I remember when I was about 8 and got my first microscope, I thought I was a scientist too.
:cheersmate:
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If the Congress were still democrat, there'd be a new committee on falling dead blackbirds.
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I've read that. Rocks rubing together under high presure....and it's been proven in the lab that it can happen.
And even more interesting is the 'Expanding Earth' theory..
The short version.. the core of the earth is a dynamic, molten object - and has a problem cooling off because of the crust of the earth, and gravity keeping it contained. This creates a reactor effect, where less dense elements are created and they push upward and outward, including hydrocarbons such as Petroleum, and natural gas. These lighter elements actually have pushed the surface of the earth outward, and over time have caused (and continue to cause) the planet to enlarge.
In short - Pangaea was a mega-continent on a mini earth, and it broke apart from internal forces as lighter elements rise from the core - like the way the crust on a loaf of bread fractures as it rises while baking.. ANd if this theory is correct, there will be more petroleum made by the earth as long as its core continues to be active.
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:03 PM
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4. we can't.
speaking as a scientist...we're ****ing doomed.
This guy must be one of those "super duper" scientists like Rus was talking about.
The primitive says a scientist, huh? Yeah, alright. ::) :whatever:
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I remember when I was about 8 and got my first microscope, I thought I was a scientist too.
Hey, if AlGore can be a Super Duper Scientist, so can my Bassets! More power to 'em! We all ought to be scientists!
I think everyone's pet should be a Super Scientist, they know as much if not more than these DUmb****s!
If the Congress were still democrat, there'd be a new committee on falling dead blackbirds.
ooooh, snap!
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. we can't.
speaking as a scientist...we're ****ing doomed.
Yeah, that's the way a scientist speaks.
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:03 PM
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4. we can't.
speaking as a scientist...we're ****ing doomed.
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:05 PM
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5. They are a suicide cult
They are a suicide cult where love of money has replace God as the object of adulation. The 'God' part only serves to excuse the greed.
Those DUmmies are so funny when they project.
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Lol, parachuting. The only thing "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again" doesn't apply to. :-)
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Lol, parachuting. The only thing "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again" doesn't apply to. :-)
Who the hell would want to jump outa a perfectly good plane in the first place????????????
It rates right up there in things I want to do like bungee jumpin', wrestlin' croks, and humpin' water buffalo!
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Who the hell would want to jump outa a perfectly good plane in the first place????????????
As I seem to remember, the black hats at Airborne school had a ready answer to that question . . .
Also, this primitive:
Teaser (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:03 PM
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4. we can't.
speaking as a scientist...we're ****ing doomed.
shows about as much scientific acumen as this guy:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMWGXt979yg[/youtube]
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As I seem to remember, the black hats at Airborne school had a ready answer to that question . . .
As a matter of fact they did.
KC
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:03 PM
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4. we can't.
speaking as a scientist...we're ****ing doomed.
:bsmeter: :bs2flag:
If you were a scientist, then you would realize that AGW is not factual science, but pure propaganda. :bird:
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-06-11 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. we can't.
speaking as a scientist...we're ****ing doomed.
Yeah, that's the way a DUmmie scientist speaks.
:-)
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I was listening to the news on NPR this afternoon. The headline, and this is verbatim, was: "Today congressional Republicans introduced legislation that would prevent the administration from taking action to limit climate change." So, clearly, climate change is settled fact, as is the ability of the jug-eared muslim to limit it. I wouldn't have known that without National Public Radio. Damn Republicans.
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I was listening to the news on NPR this afternoon. The headline, and this is verbatim, was: "Today congressional Republicans introduced legislation that would prevent the administration from taking action to limit climate change." So, clearly, climate change is settled fact, as is the ability of the jug-eared muslim to limit it. I wouldn't have known that without National Public Radio. Damn Republicans.
Yep! Mostest, smartest people on the planet! Just ask 'em!