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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on January 03, 2011, 07:25:54 PM
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-02-11 01:59 PM
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Poll question: What do you think is the best way to jumpstart our economy?
Poll result (138 votes)
Taxcuts for the wealthy (0 votes, 0%) Vote
Government jobs program (21 votes, 15%) Vote
Taxcuts for small businesses (2 votes, 1%) Vote
A stimulus to state governments (0 votes, 0%) Vote
A program to rebuild our infrastructure (82 votes, 59%) Vote
More trade agreements to increase our exports (2 votes, 1%) Vote
Increasing the minimum wage (5 votes, 4%) Vote
Even more taxcuts for small businesses. (1 votes, 1%) Vote
Lower corporate income taxes (2 votes, 1%) Vote
Other? (23 votes, 17%) Vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x105510#105520
I would have though that kentuck would have given tax the hell out of the rich as a choice.
Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-02-11 02:02 PM
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1. Immediate emergency tax increases to 90% on the upper 2 percentile
Yeah, I know it won't happen, but offering tax cuts to these swine really pisses me off. They use our services to make their money, but they don't want to pay a fair share?
MAKE them pay.
They pay their fair share and then some.
And there were no tax cuts offered. Tax rates neither increased nor decreased they stayed the same.
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-02-11 02:06 PM
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2. Other.
Outlaw the Republican Party as a terrorist organization.
Other than making you feel good that won't solve a single problem. In fact if you get rid of the opposition you will think back to now as the good old days before everything went to hell.
Edweird (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-02-11 02:08 PM
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4. WPA/CCC. Raise taxes on the rich to pay for it. Instead we are going the opposite direction.
If we were going in the opposite direction then we would have lowered taxes on the rich.
There was no tax cut you stupid idiot.
LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-02-11 02:18 PM
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12. A government jobs program that focuses on infrastructure!
I would also:
* Raise the minimum wage
* Lower the age of eligibility for Social Security - at least during the jobless period.
* Extend unemployment benefits to the 99ers.
* Eliminate tax benefits for offshoring American jobs
* Establish a real health care reform: Single payer
Yeah, I know! Fat chance while Republicans control Congress!
Since people like you not only vote but, hold office I am so happy the Repukes will be controlling congress.
earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-02-11 04:14 PM
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39. Green jobs, green power, green retrofitting. Gore was right. nt
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jan-03-11 12:16 AM
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68. Lower the retirement age
big jump in the estate tax, 90% of anything over 5 million.
How does that create jobs?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan-02-11 04:14 PM
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39. Green jobs, green power, green retrofitting. Gore was right. nt
How about green frog shit, DUmmy? It's worth more than those green scams.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-02-11 02:06 PM
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2. Other. Outlaw the Republican Party as a terrorist organization.
The stupid is strong with this primitive Cleita.
Any one know of this Cleita on the DUmp? I would definitely have voted him/her for a primitive award for sure. He/she has been posting some outrageous posts as of late on the DUmp. But, then again,...that is normal for that site. :tongue:
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The stupid is strong with this primitive Cleita.
Any one know of this Cleita on the DUmp? I would definitely have voted him/her for a primitive award for sure. He/she has been posting some outrageous posts as of late on the DUmp. But, then again,...that is normal for that site. :tongue:
Methinks she (I'm guessing its a she) is trying to get on the list for 2011.
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Trick question.
Everyone know that increasing regulations, taxes, and the size of government is the best way to jump start an economy.
Doubt me? Look at the last two years. Better yet watch the next two years as the tyrant in chief regulates all industry by imperial declaration. It's is a glorious future komrades!
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Government jobs program (21 votes, 15%) Vote
A program to rebuild our infrastructure (82 votes, 59%) Vote
Is there a difference between these two?
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Is there a difference between these two?
Potaytoe pahtahtoe.
:-)
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Methinks she (I'm guessing its a she) is trying to get on the list for 2011.
I think she's well on her way, if she keeps posting these types of replies. :mental: :lmao:
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Potaytoe pahtahtoe.
:-)
You forgot Pockiston. Kenyan pronunciation.
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You forgot Pockiston. Kenyan pronunciation.
And the Tollybahn.
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And the Tollybahn.
And I'll bet you the muslim does actually say "pahtahtoe". In public.
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And I'll bet you the muslim does actually say "pahtahtoe". In public.
Bush probably said Tater. :lmao:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-02-11 02:02 PM
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1. Immediate emergency tax increases to 90% on the upper 2 percentile
Yeah, I know it won't happen, but offering tax cuts to these swine really pisses me off. They use our services to make their money, but they don't want to pay a fair share? MAKE them pay.
What pisses me off is your ignorance. Or is it stupidity?
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Bush probably said Tater. :lmao:
Man! I really hate that word! DUmp women use it all the time in their cooking discussions, trying to sound folksy.
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Vote all "Progressives" out. That'll do the trick.
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Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts)
2. Other.
Outlaw the Republican Party as a terrorist organization.
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Those who do not learn from history are doomed to vote democrat.
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Actually the single thing that WOULD turn it around would be to wipe out 75% of the restrictive regulations that affect business, leaving only the ones that directly affect health and safety of the workers and customers. Junk the more far-flung OSHA regs that are based on some freak accident that happened once, somewhere; junk most of the environmental regs and laws that are aimed at society-wide issues like the CFC light idiocy; junk the feel-good EEO crap and make people prove their own discrimination cases instead of presuming they're right just because they complained at all; stop propping up unions with the NLRB and new legislative proposals like card-check and let them prove their value or evaporate; and so on down the line.
Taxes you'll have to pay anywhere, more or less as the case may be, but business in the US is strangling due to the weight of regulation that makes it damned near impossible to grow one. A local or franchise service business, sure, but how many damned restaurants and detailing shops do you need? In manufacturing, at the point where a business starts getting a national or international market, it has a choice of locating or outsourcing a lot of what it does off-shore, or having its lunch eaten by relatively-unconstrained foreign competitors.
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Actually the single thing that WOULD turn it around would be to wipe out 75% of the restrictive regulations that affect business, leaving only the ones that directly affect health and safety of the workers and customers.
BINGO DAT!
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What would jump start the economy you ask dear DUmmies?
You can start by getting rid of the inexperienced community organizer occupying the White Mosque and then work your way all the way down and replace with conservatives.
You wanna see "REAL CHANGE" in America? There you go.
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Man! I really hate that word! DUmp women use it all the time in their cooking discussions, trying to sound folksy.
"They call me......... Ron "Tater Salad" White!
runs, ducks.........
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Actually the single thing that WOULD turn it around would be to wipe out 75% of the restrictive regulations that affect business, leaving only the ones that directly affect health and safety of the workers and customers. Junk the more far-flung OSHA regs that are based on some freak accident that happened once, somewhere; junk most of the environmental regs and laws that are aimed at society-wide issues like the CFC light idiocy; junk the feel-good EEO crap and make people prove their own discrimination cases instead of presuming they're right just because they complained at all; stop propping up unions with the NLRB and new legislative proposals like card-check and let them prove their value or evaporate; and so on down the line.
Taxes you'll have to pay anywhere, more or less as the case may be, but business in the US is strangling due to the weight of regulation that makes it damned near impossible to grow one. A local or franchise service business, sure, but how many damned restaurants and detailing shops do you need? In manufacturing, at the point where a business starts getting a national or international market, it has a choice of locating or outsourcing a lot of what it does off-shore, or having its lunch eaten by relatively-unconstrained foreign competitors.
^5 Tank!!!!!
These nanny staters will never see or understand this! I remember the day when handicapped parking was a rarity! No one was complainin', we helped those that needed it without gubmint intervention! It was just the right thing to do! We were Americans for cripes sake! We didn't need to be told there are those that occasionally need our charity! These asshats have turned us into people that care less and less everyday simply because they are forcing us to do something we used to do because we wanted to!
Ya want to get your kids to rebell? Tell him or her somethin' is off limits without tellin' them why! Tell them they must do something without explainin' why it is in their best interests!
Now, it's required! Not only required, but we have vast bureaucracies to enforce rules we were already following in the first place, without some asshole tellin' us we had to!!
I used to walk plate on concrete tilt ups without a harness! Never fell once! After they started makin' me wear that stinkin' bulky harness, I fell 5 times! I got hurt worse with the damn thing on than I ever did without it! Walkin' plate or standin' steel, used to be an art! Just ask the Native Americans who built NYC skyscrapers! Nowadays it takes three times the number of days in order to build any ****in' thing because of regulation and Big Brother watchin' over your shoulder!
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Cut taxes across the board by 10%, reduce the corporate tax to no more than 10%, and capital gains to 5%. Abolish about 90% of all regs as Tanks says, although in the EPA's case you have to abolish the entire agency as well as the regs; drill for oil everywhere we can; mine for coal nearly everywhere we can; give giant tax breaks to electricity suppliers who build nuclear power plants (and of course eliminate about half the regs on those).
I read the cretinous suggestions from the DUmmies, and honestly, all I can think of in response is Spark's trademark line: "Teh stooooopid, it hurts."®
Every single last suggestion I read above from the DUmmies, every last one, is a prescription for making matters about 3 chachillion times worse than they already are. They're so blinded by their ideology that they really have no idea of what actually works! Not one idea.
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What pisses me off is your ignorance. Or is it stupidity?
True_B, no doubt the OP thinks just as they do, but it doesn't seem to me that they've even read the question. Maybe in DUmmiespeak "jumpstart" translates to "destroy"?
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Cut taxes across the board by 10%, reduce the corporate tax to no more than 10%, and capital gains to 5%. Abolish about 90% of all regs as Tanks says, although in the EPA's case you have to abolish the entire agency as well as the regs; drill for oil everywhere we can; mine for coal nearly everywhere we can; give giant tax breaks to electricity suppliers who build nuclear power plants (and of course eliminate about half the regs on those).
I read the cretinous suggestions from the DUmmies, and honestly, all I can think of in response is Spark's trademark line: "Teh stooooopid, it hurts."®
Every single last suggestion I read above from the DUmmies, every last one, is a prescription for making matters about 3 chachillion times worse than they already are. They're so blinded by their ideology that they really have no idea of what actually works! Not one idea.
The real crack up is the rebuild the infrastructure! just where are we goin' to get the ****in' money? The Jug Eared primitive, has spent us into bankruptcy already!
What part of "We're ****in' broke" don't these asshats get???? Federal jobs take money out of the economy! They sure as hell don't stimulate it!
It's like takin' the concrete outa one truck and puttin' in another! Where is the net gain?
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The real crack up is the rebuild the infrastructure! just where are we goin' to get the ****in' money? The Jug Eared primitive, has spent us into bankruptcy already!
What part of "We're ****in' broke" don't these asshats get???? Federal jobs take money out of the economy! They sure as hell don't stimulate it!
It's like takin' the concrete outa one truck and puttin' in another! Where is the net gain?
They LOVE that word, "infrastructure." As if building bridges, roads, tunnels, and rails with no one to drive on them (because they can't afford a car or the gas) or ride on them to any jobs (because there aren't any) is going to do one bit of good.
It's not even as good as taking concrete out of one truck and putting it in another, as useless as that is, Al--Keynesianism destroys more than half the concrete just in the transfer!
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The roads around Memphis are pretty damn awful. I have to wonder what they've been spending their annual infrastructure budget on if not infrastructure?
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What do you think is the best way to jumpstart our economy?
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WPA/CCC. Raise taxes on the rich to pay for it. Instead we are going the opposite direction.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. "
Margaret Thatcher
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Regulations and regulation zealotry is what is driving business out of liberal state like here in kalifornia. The business community sees quite clearly that obama want to make the entire USA kalifornia on steroids.
The real short answer is to have Obama out of the White House. Until then working capital is stampeding out of our country. The stock market may go up but nobody in their right mind would open a business that makes things in kalifornia and now the entire USA. No state is safe for business now. Look at what the Obama regime is dong to Texas, Arizona, Louisiana, and many other red states.
NOWHERE IS SAFE FOR BUSINESS IN THE USA.
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"Infrastructure"
:lol:
I woulda thunk that most of the FDR "New Dealers" woulda been dead by now.
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Remove all Muzzy socialists from government positions and while we're at it reduce the size of the government by, oh say 40% as a start.
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Remove all Muzzy socialists from government positions and while we're at it reduce the size of the government by, oh say 40% as a start.
We wouldn't even notice the diff at 40%! Hell, at 60, we prolly would only feel a bump in the road! Except for the fact the whiners would be givin' us hell 24/7!
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Okay, I'll give ya an H5 for that one. Juvenile, but funny nonetheless.
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Industry runs best on cheap oil....drill baby drill.
The meer mention of drilling off shore caused oil prices to drop to half price when Bush was in office.
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You forgot Pockiston. Kenyan pronunciation.
and that king of affectation: chee KAH noess
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Cut taxes across the board by 10%, reduce the corporate tax to no more than 10%, and capital gains to 5%. Abolish about 90% of all regs as Tanks says, although in the EPA's case you have to abolish the entire agency as well as the regs; drill for oil everywhere we can; mine for coal nearly everywhere we can; give giant tax breaks to electricity suppliers who build nuclear power plants
Man, what a hardline Freeper! Hard to believe you're a New Yorker. :tongue:
Speaking of infrastructure, I was reminded of what Joe Biden said lo these many months ago, when the godawful porkulus bill had passed. Someone in an audience asked him, "My friend has a small business. How will this bill help her?" Joe replied, "Well, if your friend has a business that needs a bridge or a road so that customers can get to her, this could possibly help her."
As if someone would build a business on say, a desert island and not think of implications of public accessibility. Oh, the dumb, it hurts.
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Man, what a hardline Freeper! Hard to believe you're a New Yorker. :tongue:
Speaking of infrastructure, I was reminded of what Joe Biden said lo these many months ago, when the godawful porkulus bill had passed. Someone in an audience asked him, "My friend has a small business. How will this bill help her?" Joe replied, "Well, if your friend has a business that needs a bridge or a road so that customers can get to her, this could possibly help her."
As if someone would build a business on say, a desert island and not think of implications of public accessibility. Oh, the dumb, it hurts.
I just finished a book by LTG (R) Russel Honore--the one of "You are stuck on stupid" fame. It's called Survival How Being Prepared Can Keep You And Your Family Safe and it's a recounting of the Katrina golf-foxtrot and how he became the face of the recovery effort. He says something along these lines: Ignorance is correctable; stupid is not. Biden is stupid.
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What pisses me off is your ignorance. Or is it stupidity?
Stupidity.
Ignorance is treatable.
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Man, what a hardline Freeper! Hard to believe you're a New Yorker. :tongue:
Speaking of infrastructure, I was reminded of what Joe Biden said lo these many months ago, when the godawful porkulus bill had passed. Someone in an audience asked him, "My friend has a small business. How will this bill help her?" Joe replied, "Well, if your friend has a business that needs a bridge or a road so that customers can get to her, this could possibly help her."
As if someone would build a business on say, a desert island and not think of implications of public accessibility. Oh, the dumb, it hurts.
I left out eliminating the AMT, granting tax incentives to build refineries, and, as a long-term project to make our mid-school and high school systems competitive in the world again, eliminating the Department of Education and driving the NEA out of our schools, and granting people the option of taking a large, calculated percentage of their property taxes to use as vouchers for private schooling.
Am I really hard line Karin? Sad day, isn't it, when common sense is "hard line" How terrible that we should not cripple our own energy industry! How very "winger" of me! :cheersmate:
I have trouble believing I live in NY too, myself. Arkham Asylum, is more like it.
Biden actually said that?--no, wait, why am I even surprised? It's Biden. But even someone on the hard left who doesn't have Tourette syndrome could never explain how building all these roads and bridges is really going to have any long-term, positive effect on the economy. They say "infrastructure" like a magical incantation, but if asked to explain how this does any good, either they bury us in stupid, a la Biden, or, more likely, obscure the issue with meaningless word salad.
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IBiden actually said that?--no, wait, why am I even surprised? It's Biden. But even someone on the hard left who doesn't have Tourette syndrome could never explain how building all these roads and bridges is really going to have any long-term, positive effect on the economy. They say "infrastructure" like a magical incantation, but if asked to explain how this does any good, either they bury us in stupid, a la Biden, or, more likely, obscure the issue with meaningless word salad.
Libs attribute the building of the interstate system back in the late 50's and into the 60's for the booming economy back then. I guess America's cutting edge technology in the world had nothin' to do with it! Ya know, like TV broadcasting, satellites that could support a billion telephone calls, etc, etc.