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Not a fan: Krauthammer calls Palin ‘rather weak’ and gives her ‘no chance of winning’ in 2012
Is the idea that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin could be America’s next president laughable? Not only to many on the left, but also to conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer.
On Friday’s broadcast of “Inside Washington,†Krauthammer offered several reasons why Palin shouldn’t be considered the presumptive Republican nominee for the 2012 presidential election.
“What do you mean if not Sarah Palin in 2012?†Krauthammer said. “Who’s saying she’s going to be the presidential candidate? I don’t even hear her saying it. Her chances of being are smaller than half a dozen other people. If you talk to Republicans, I don’t think there are what, more than one in three who would tell you she has a chance of winning the presidency or even the nomination.â€
Because of that, he said, she wasn’t the favorite.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/31/still-not-a-fan-krauthammer-calls-palin-rather-weak-and-gives-her-no-chance-of-winning-general-election/#ixzz19jQLjqNz
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So What does he think of Sarah's position on the issues? Or is that irrelevant? This coming from the guy who went on the O'Reilly show to tell the world how 'smart' the New 'Comeback Kid' is. Its always a great laugh to watch the moonbat-commie-left beat their collective breast, slobber uncontrollably, rend their clothes, and bite themselves on the neck at the mere mention of her name.This is the same crowd that said precisely the same thing about Reagan - not smart enough, just an actor, extremist ... etc. Most of us are not old enough to remember how mocked he was before he even ran. No one. No one gave him even a slight chance of winning. (He ran 3X btw) The RINOs and Leftists are not afraid that Sarah Palin cannot win the election, they are afraid that she will.
Heres an idea Dr K. How about this time we use CLOSED primaries rather than letting republicrats like you and democrats cross over to nominate some worthless old RINO that none of the rest of us are interested in just because "it's his turn"? Hmm??
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I don't think Sarah Palin is going to run.
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I don't think Sarah Palin is going to run.
I don't think so either, but if she does, she has my vote. Unfortunately the primaries are pretty much decided by the time Illinois votes.
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Telling is it not, how the good Dr. (former Carter speech writer) refuses to exercise a discrete tongue when speaking of her as he eagerly does for Maobama?
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I don't think Sarah Palin is going to run.
Neither do I.
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He's right. She's a joke. She's a brainless bimbo who should stick to what she knows best: "reality TV". Krauthammer and Gingrich could run circles around her.
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He's right. She's a joke. She's a brainless bimbo who should stick to what she knows best: "reality TV". Krauthammer and Gingrich could run circles around her.
Brainless bimbo? She has a degree. Do you? No, she shouldn't run. She has no chance, but not because she isn't qualified or doesn't have the ability to be an executive, she has no chance due to partisan politics and societal implications. Republicans can't run an unknown for President and win. Only Democrats can do that, hence the last election.
"I'm" voting for Herman Cain, should he run, because I'm SICK of Damn politicians. I want someone who knows what the **** an economy is and someone who knows what a budget is.
To call Palin a brainless bimbo only shows you to be an idiot. She's local folk, not a polished politician. That should be something that's coveted, not ostracized.
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He's right. She's a joke. She's a brainless bimbo who should stick to what she knows best: "reality TV". Krauthammer and Gingrich could run circles around her.
Just wow.
Kinda strong on the hate in that post. Bimbo? Is that 'cause she's purty or just 'cause she be a girl?
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He's right. She's a joke. She's a brainless bimbo who should stick to what she knows best: "reality TV". Krauthammer and Gingrich could run circles around her.
Please tell me you were being sarcastic.
Now do I think she should run? No, but not for the reasons you outlined. In reality, there are others just as conservative as her without being nearly as polarizing.
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brainless bimbo? that's uncalled for.
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I'll take Sarcasm for $100, Alex.
If I'm wrong... eh, it's only $100.
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I caught a repeat of Hannity's interview with her and I was impressed with how she spoke. However, over the course of the hour her voice did start to get irritating. Not as bad as listening to Obama or even listening to President Bush.
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Brainless bimbo? She has a degree. Do you?
3: Eurpean Military History. Business Administration. Austrian Macro-Economics.
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He's right. She's a joke. She's a brainless bimbo who should stick to what she knows best: "reality TV". Krauthammer and Gingrich could run circles around her.
Hi,
While I love Sarah Palin, I do not want her to run because she is such a polarizing figure.
Suggest you read her book and read the last part written by one of the citizens of Alaska. Judge her on what she accomplished and she was by far the most qualified of all the candidates in the last presidential election.
She took on the Republican establishment and got rid of a lot of the pork, then cut the Alaska budget down to where it should be. She opened up reasonable drilling in the north slope and all Alaskans get royalty checks. She cleaned house and did a damn good job of it. That, by the way, has been her history along the way. Politicians on both side of the aisle are terrified of her because she will actually use some common sense and it will rock their boat. Why do you think the left, with cooperation of the media, is trying to demonize her so much, they are terrified of her.
Regards,
5412
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I don't consider her a serious candidate either.
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So What does he think of Sarah's position on the issues? Or is that irrelevant? This coming from the guy who went on the O'Reilly show to tell the world how 'smart' the New 'Comeback Kid' is. Its always a great laugh to watch the moonbat-commie-left beat their collective breast, slobber uncontrollably, rend their clothes, and bite themselves on the neck at the mere mention of her name.This is the same crowd that said precisely the same thing about Reagan - not smart enough, just an actor, extremist ... etc. Most of us are not old enough to remember how mocked he was before he even ran. No one. No one gave him even a slight chance of winning. (He ran 3X btw) The RINOs and Leftists are not afraid that Sarah Palin cannot win the election, they are afraid that she will.
Heres an idea Dr K. How about this time we use CLOSED primaries rather than letting republicrats like you and democrats cross over to nominate some worthless old RINO that none of the rest of us are interested in just because "it's his turn"? Hmm??
:yeahthat:
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I'd actually prefer Palin as head of the RNC, I think she and we would be better off reforming the Republican Party from within.
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I'd actually prefer Palin as head of the RNC, I think she and we would be better off reforming the Republican Party from within.
I would not mind that. She won against the establishment wing of the party in Alaska. She could clean house nationally too.
Still, Palin/Bachmann 2012 would be great.
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3: Eurpean Military History. Business Administration. Austrian Macro-Economics.
Eurpean?
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I'd actually prefer Palin as head of the RNC, I think she and we would be better off reforming the Republican Party from within.
If Palin chooses to stay in politics, this is where she belongs. Sadly, She is too polarizing to win outright, but she has the ability to raise massive amounts of cash and play kingmaker.
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If Palin chooses to stay in politics, this is where she belongs. Sadly, She is too polarizing to win outright, but she has the ability to raise massive amounts of cash and play kingmaker.
I agree.
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I don't care who or what runs as a the republican candidate, I'm voting for them.
I don't care if it's even one of those monkeys with the big red ass, I'm voting for him....well, you do understand, that I am excluding the monkey with the big red ass that currently occupies the Great White Mosque..
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I don't think Sarah Palin is going to run.
Same here. Sarah Palin's life is very comfortable as it is.
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He's right. She's a joke. She's a brainless bimbo who should stick to what she knows best: "reality TV". Krauthammer and Gingrich could run circles around her.
Care to defend your position? What leads you to believe she is either brainless or a bimbo?
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Care to defend your position? What leads you to believe she is either brainless or a bimbo?
Just listen to her talk.
We've de-evolved from a nation of Jefferson and Adams and Washington to this twit.
I don't dislike Palin. I just don't think she's the sharpest tool in the shed and the best candidate to put forth the values of the Republic.
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I have listened to her talk. I think her ideas are right up the alley of Jefferson, Adams and Washington.
Carter is a PhD. Obama went to top schools.
Again. Can you provide specifics of "brainless" and "bimbo"?
I find her dedicated to her family and plain spoken. I'm not saying she can win the presidency, but I think "brainless" and "bimbo" is a bit unfair, especially without specific examples.
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I have listened to her talk. I think her ideas are right up the alley of Jefferson, Adams and Washington.
Carter is a PhD. Obama went to top schools.
Again. Can you provide specifics of "brainless" and "bimbo"?
I find her dedicated to her family and plain spoken. I'm not saying she can win the presidency, but I think "brainless" and "bimbo" is a bit unfair, especially without specific examples.
OK. Point conceded. "Brainless" and "Bimbo" were a bit extreme.
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He's right. She's a joke. She's a brainless bimbo who should stick to what she knows best: "reality TV". Krauthammer and Gingrich could run circles around her.
If, of course, Krauthammer could run... Seriously, though, he's heavily a Fiscal/Foreign Policy Conservative, with only a spotty investment in the Libertarian Conservative or Social Conservative issues of concern. Fiscal policy is important but issues of the Constitution and limits of Federal power come first for me, and important as the national debt issue may be, it doesn't even directly raise major Constitutional issues.
Gingrich, I've always perceived as just too arrogant and convinced of his own brilliance to be worth a damn, and in all the out-of-cycle elections during the first two years of Obama's reign he has been on the side of every RINO running against an actual Conservative (Or just not-As-RINO) every last damned time.
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Just listen to her talk.
We've de-evolved from a nation of Jefferson and Adams and Washington to this twit.
I don't dislike Palin. I just don't think she's the sharpest tool in the shed and the best candidate to put forth the values of the Republic.
You have a smooth talker in Obama where sugar would not melt in his mouth. I guess you want a RINO like Romney. A sharp dresser and a smooth talker plus he is from your neck of the woods who thinks he is so smart. Let's see,, all the braino's like Clinton, Bush, Obama, Palusen, Greenspan, Uncle Ben, Larry Summers, Barney Fag, Dodd, etc went to Ivy league schools. Out of control spending and/or the decline of the economy is a direct or indirect result of their economic policies. This country can not afford another educated fool for President. Just give me someone with above average intelligence that has some f......k common sense and has done something besides being a career politician. Palin meets my criteria. I think she will run and beat the pants off of Obama. BTW, Krawhammer can KMY as he is one of these elitist know it all eastern establishment Repubs.
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I saw one of the Fox shows, I think it was Bret Baier's...where Krauthammer said he gave Palin no chance of winning in 2012. This was before Christmas. He was not nearly as negative as the article makes him out to be.
He did say that Palin's "chances of winning were rather weak"...and he's right. She is very polarizing as the majority of people either like her or don't like her as a presidential candidate. There are not a whole lot of people who are in the middle as far as her as a presidential candidate. He also said that does not mean that she would not be a viable candidate in the future, as that could be a possibility.
He said that the Repulicans are going to have to come up with a very strong candidate for president in 2012, because if the country shows economic improvement the next two years, and Obama decides to make supreme efforts in working with the Republicans and implementing some of their suggestions/policies.... Obama will get reelected....just as Clinton did. He also said that was a big IF because he does not think that Obama is going to do as Clinton did, that Obama will continue to do as he has for the last 2 years.
If he likes Obama, he has an odd way of showing it! He is quite critical of Obama, and does not even appear to have any respect for him.
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If he likes Obama, he has an odd way of showing it! He is quite critical of Obama, and does not even appear to have any respect for him.
Oh, he doesn't, not at all. In fact he wasn't one of the Foxers on the 'Triangulation genius move' bandwagon on Obama's tardy and reluctant tax compromise. Krauthammer is very astute and I greatly enjoy his analysis, it is always very sharply-reasoned even if I don't necessarily agree with it all the time, but like us all he does have his own pet rocks, and the focal point of his own brand of Conservatism is very much a fiscal/foreign relations matter.
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Gingrich, I've always perceived as just too arrogant and convinced of his own brilliance to be worth a damn, and in all the out-of-cycle elections during the first two years of Obama's reign he has been on the side of every RINO running against an actual Conservative (Or just not-As-RINO) every last damned time.
Totally agree with your assessment of Gingrich. Plus, he allowed himself to be steamrolled by Clinton. I believe he's intelligent, but I don't like his brand of "conservatism."
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Oh, he doesn't, not at all. In fact he wasn't one of the Foxers on the 'Triangulation genius move' bandwagon on Obama's tardy and reluctant tax compromise. Krauthammer is very astute and I greatly enjoy his analysis, it is always very sharply-reasoned even if I don't necessarily agree with it all the time, but like us all he does have his own pet rocks, and the focal point of his own brand of Conservatism is very much a fiscal/foreign relations matter.
I do not see Krawhammer bashing liberal/moderate Repubs like Romney. May be just my disgust for those that have to take potshots at real conservatives on a frequent basis. I have got news for Krawhammer and his elite buddies that think they are so damn smart...put up a RINO and I will stay home. A lot of Southerners feel the same way as I do. I voted for McCain. So he can keep on high horse and Repubs will lose again.
It is foolish to think that a committed ultra liberal like Obama will change spots. He will put out olive branches for Repubs like the tax extension with 300 billion in new spending and Repubs will fall for it. Repubs are just a bunch of dumb ass's that get tricked over and over. Predictions are that the economy will get marginally better and that unemployment will remain very high. I see nothing that Obama will do to improve small business creation. He has never invited a small business owner to the WH.
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No beef with any of what you say, lacarnut. The one thing that could get Obama's ass kicked in '12 is four-to-five-dollar gas, and his indefinite drilling ban could be the self-inflicted wound that takes us there. It'd be painful, but I'd pay that price to dump him.
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No beef with any of what you say, lacarnut. The one thing that could get Obama's ass kicked in '12 is four-to-five-dollar gas, and his indefinite drilling ban could be the self-inflicted wound that takes us there. It'd be painful, but I'd pay that price to dump him.
I'd suffer through those gas prices, even with the higher prices on everything else they entail to be rid of Obumbler.
Our Saturn gets almost 25mpg and we drive less than 3k miles per year.
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No beef with any of what you say, lacarnut. The one thing that could get Obama's ass kicked in '12 is four-to-five-dollar gas, and his indefinite drilling ban could be the self-inflicted wound that takes us there. It'd be painful, but I'd pay that price to dump him.
I should be one of Obama's ardent admirers because I have made a killing off my investments in gold, silver and palladium. The price of oil going up is not going to hurt my two oil royalty checks either. However, I do not want to see this country turn into the chaos of Greece, Ireland, Greece and Spain. Without fiscal austerity, we headed for the crapper.
My take on the next election is that if we do not get an outsider who has not been a career politician, we are headed downhill. Most politician disgust me. So, I want someone that has ran a business who will turn DC upside down. I think Palin is that person, and I think that is why Krawhammer and elitists from both parties do not like her.
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I should be one of Obama's ardent admirers because I have made a killing off my investments in gold, silver and palladium. The price of oil going up is not going to hurt my two oil royalty checks either. However, I do not want to see this country turn into the chaos of Greece, Ireland, Greece and Spain. Without fiscal austerity, we headed for the crapper.
My take on the next election is that if we do not get an outsider who has not been a career politician, we are headed downhill. Most politician disgust me. So, I want someone that has ran a business who will turn DC upside down. I think Palin is that person, and I think that is why Krawhammer and elitists from both parties do not like her.
Actually she has more qualifications to be president then Obama. BTW what kind of degree soes she have that makes her presidential material??
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Actually she has more qualifications to be president then Obama. BTW what kind of degree soes she have that makes her presidential material??
BTW, are you writing a book? There is no degree that qualifies him/her for the Presidency...just ask Bill Clinton. We could shoot half the lawyers and the country would be in much better shape. The fact she is not one and had experience in a business is a big plus in my book.
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The so called elites in Washington threw just as much cold water on Reagan ... if not more.
To hell with them.
If some anti-american idiot that nobodys heard of and nobodys sure where he came from and nobodys sure of his school records making broad vacuous insubstantial promises such as "hope" and "change" to "57 states" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AMxW6EvAmQ&feature=related) can get elected to the highest office in the land then ...
I reckon a plain spoken person can be too.
Yeah ... I'm gonna let Kraublather and people like him presume to think they know better than me ...
Like hell I am. He and his ilk are the reason we got the current scum running the country. The election is still a long way off. Anything can happen between now and then. And probably will. I for one am not willing to let him (or the MSM) "set the table" for me this far out with his or their subtle or not so subtle psychobabble.
Krauthammer can go "play in traffic" for all I care. Long live Sara Palin!
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The so called elites in Washington threw just as much cold water on Reagan ... if not more.
To hell with them.
If some anti-american idiot that nobodys heard of and nobodys sure where he came from and nobodys sure of his school records making broad vacuous insubstantial promises such as "hope" and "change" to "57 states" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AMxW6EvAmQ&feature=related) can get elected to the highest office in the land then ...
I reckon a plain spoken person can be too.
Yeah ... I'm gonna let Kraublather and people like him presume to think they know better than me ...
Like hell I am. He and his ilk are the reason we got the current scum running the country. The election is still a long way off. Anything can happen between now and then. And probably will. I for one am not willing to let him (or the MSM) "set the table" for me this far out with his or their subtle or not so subtle psychobabble.
Krauthammer can go "play in traffic" for all I care. Long live Sara Palin!
"Hear, Hear!"
I never hear much criticism from Krawhammer and Rove on other Republicans. However, they sure take pot shots at Palin on a regular basis. Could it be that they do not like her ideas on government? I think that is the ticket. However, what do you expect from educated Ivy leaguers who think they know everything. She has more common sense than these two birds put together.
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"Hear, Hear!"
I never hear much criticism from Krawhammer and Rove on other Republicans. However, they sure take pot shots at Palin on a regular basis. Could it be that they do not like her ideas on government? I think that is the ticket. However, what do you expect from educated Ivy leaguers who think they know everything. She has more common sense than these two birds put together.
On the plus side those glasses give her remarkable eye sight, she can see Russia from her front door.
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On the plus side those glasses give her remarkable eye sight, she can see Russia from her front door.
On the plus side Obama has been to 57 states with one more to go, and when his teleprompter goes on the blink he becomes a bumbling idiot.
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On the plus side those glasses give her remarkable eye sight, she can see Russia from her front door.
Can you show me the link where Palin said that please?
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Can you show me the link where Palin said that please?
I wanna see that too, Vesta.
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Can you show me the link where Palin said that please?
He/she/it can NOT show the link because she said "that the two countries are neighboors and that you can SEE Russia from AK" which is accurate. Two islands off each countries coast is separated by only 2.5 miles. Too bad these partisan pricks have to make up things about her cause the gaffs between Obummer and half a brain Joe would fill a book. Someone will probably write one to show what ignoramus's they were.
Vesta: let's make a little bet. You are a liar.
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He/she/it can NOT show the link because she said "that the two countries are neighboors and that you can SEE Russia from AK" which is accurate. Two islands off each countries coast is separated by only 2.5 miles. Too bad these partisan pricks have to make up things about her cause the gaffs between Obummer and half a brain Joe would fill a book. Someone will probably write one to show what ignoramus's they were.
Vesta: let's make a little bet. You are a liar.
Tina Fey was the one that said she could see Russia from her house, and the DUmmies believed it was really Palin.
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I wanna see that too, Vesta.
Hard to remember that far back but I do remember her comments about that when she was running for VP had some of us really surprised--as in Russia was our only foreign neighbor forgeting about Canada at her door step.--
Excuse me Splash but one cannot remember EVERYTHING that happend years ago.
A liar knows the truth and twists it to be self serving, I have no dog in this race, YET,--- and now I am wondering why You would call me a liar for repeating what I believe happend. It could be I heard it on a anti Palin news Chanel or the radio for gosh sake.
You need to realise that we of the ordinary public are bombarded by conflicting views and some of this sticks in the mind. We are not lying when we repeat what may have been said a few years ago, we are just repeating what we remember--if we are wrong, so be it someone will correct us.
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Hard to remember that far back but I do remember her comments about that when she was running for VP had some of us really surprised--as in Russia was our only foreign neighbor forgeting about Canada at her door step.--
Excuse me Splash but one cannot remember EVERYTHING that happend years ago.
A liar knows the truth and twists it to be self serving, I have no dog in this race, YET,--- and now I am wondering why You would call me a liar for repeating what I believe happend. It could be I heard it on a anti Palin news Chanel or the radio for gosh sake.
You need to realise that we of the ordinary public are bombarded by conflicting views and some of this sticks in the mind. We are not lying when we repeat what may have been said a few years ago, we are just repeating what we remember--if we are wrong, so be it someone will correct us.
All that, and still no link.
Hmmmmmmm......
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I haven't called you a liar. I'm just asking for a link. Didn't your parents ever teach you that repeating things that are false is bad?
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Hard to remember that far back but I do remember her comments about that when she was running for VP had some of us really surprised--as in Russia was our only foreign neighbor forgeting about Canada at her door step.--
Excuse me Splash but one cannot remember EVERYTHING that happend years ago.
A liar knows the truth and twists it to be self serving, I have no dog in this race, YET,--- and now I am wondering why You would call me a liar for repeating what I believe happend. It could be I heard it on a anti Palin news Chanel or the radio for gosh sake.
You need to realise that we of the ordinary public are bombarded by conflicting views and some of this sticks in the mind. We are not lying when we repeat what may have been said a few years ago, we are just repeating what we remember--if we are wrong, so be it someone will correct us.
It has only been 2 years ago that interview was given. If an old fart like me can remember what she said, liberals on your side should get it straight. So, I stick by my statement that anyone that repeats it is a liar. I notice that you did not apologize. Same deal with your dickhead liberal friends on youtube.
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Tina Fey was the one that said she could see Russia from her house, and the DUmmies believed it was really Palin.
Indeed; I still remember hearing our left-leaning friend citing that during the election with, of course, the most smug dismay.
I always suspected there was something about that alleged quote that was either being misunderstood or lied about...
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What she said was that you can see Russia from Alaska.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXL86v8NoGk
Here's the picture ...
www.panoramio.com/photo/407734
Heres the lie ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC018OJfwH4
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What she said was that you can see Russia from Alaska.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXL86v8NoGk
Here's the picture ...
www.panoramio.com/photo/407734
Heres the lie ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC018OJfwH4
H5 for this Janice, well done!
If I may add, Sarah Palin mentions in her first book that upon hearing Tina Fey say what she did, many Alaskans sent Gov. Palin pictures of themselves at their homes with Russia clearly visible in the background.
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Honestly, I like Palin; by and large, she'd make a much better candidate than any RINO the elites would offer us, and a much better president.
I'm not 100% on board with her on every single stance of hers, but close enough to give her the vote if she gets the RNC's nod. The only problem is how the media will demonize her; I know they will give her both barrels if they get half the chance.
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Honestly, I like Palin; by and large, she'd make a much better candidate than any RINO the elites would offer us, and a much better president.
I'm not 100% on board with her on every single stance of hers, but close enough to give her the vote if she gets the RNC's nod. The only problem is how the media will demonize her; I know they will give her both barrels if they get half the chance.
Sad - I'm less worried about the media demonizing her (that's to be expected) than the Blue-Blood Republicans and CINOs.
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The only problem is how the media will demonize her; I know they will give her both barrels if they get half the chance.
As I understand it, the media has spent over 2 million dollars spreading this lie throughout tv, radio and the internet.
Somebody is deadly serious afraid of this woman.
What a diff compared to how they "cover" for their messaih.
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Personally, I like Sarah Palin and I think she has the potential to be a good president. Certainly better than the one that is in there now!!
That being said....I don't think she's electable at this time. That may change by 2016. But right now, MSM and the Democrats will do everything they can to prevent her from being elected. I don't know why they have such a "hate" for her....but they do, and I don't understand why.
I don't think she will run in 2012, simply because I don't think she will subject her children to the stress and microscopic intrusion into every facet of their lives. The older ones can handle it, but Piper (?) and particularly Trig are too young and Sarah is too protective (which is a good thing!) of them - especially after the last election - to subject them to the scrutiny and the hate spewing liberals. She would still be young in 10 years and the kids would all be grow with the exception of Trig.
I do think she would make a great chair of the RNC.
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"A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can even get it's boots on..."
~ Mark Twain
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Sad - I'm less worried about the media demonizing her (that's to be expected) than the Blue-Blood Republicans and CINOs.
Sadly, I can agree with that. She'll have it coming from all fronts.
As I understand it, the media has spent over 2 million dollars spreading this lie throughout tv, radio and the internet.
Somebody is deadly serious afraid of this woman.
What a diff compared to how they "cover" for their messaih.
Indeed; the media and the leftists of America fall all over themselves to defend their precious savior, but a woman (whom you'd think they'd at least show a little respect for, since she's a woman in politics) who happens to be a conservative, they skewer time and again.
It's because, of course, that she's a conservative. She didn't have a doctor kill her Downs baby, she doesn't believe in preferential treatment for women above men, she thinks guns are OK and not evil talismans that cause crime - the reasons are endless, as we know.
Palin is something they're afraid of, big time - she implies to other women that they don't have to be left-wing, anti-gun, handout-obsessed paranoiacs like the DNC would prefer. She tells women that they don't have to be liberals to be good women.
And, they hate her for that.
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Sad - I'm less worried about the media demonizing her (that's to be expected) than the Blue-Blood Republicans and CINOs.
She has that fighting spirit which I greatly admire. I think she will run and win not only the nomination but the Presidency. Blue Blood Repubs like Rove and Krawhammer are terrified of her because of her government policies. These liberal Repubs do not want the apple cart turned upside down. Trimming around the edges is not going to get the job done; I fear that is what is going to happen with the new Congress.
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I do think she would make a great chair of the RNC.
I thought so too when it first came up, but she doesn't (http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Sarah-Palin-RNC-Chair/2010/12/08/id/379301)
"... the primary role of the RNC chair seems be that of fundraiser-in-chief, and there are others who would probably be much more comfortable asking people for money than I would be, and they would definitely enjoy it more."
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I'd actually prefer Palin as head of the RNC, I think she and we would be better off reforming the Republican Party from within.
Head of the RNC is nothing but a glorified fundraiser. She's much too valuable for that. Personally I'd like to see her run because I think she can win (her political instincts are like none I've ever seen, even Reagan's). She runs circles around her critics, the media, 0bama, and even those on the right who think they're smarter than the average person.
And I'm damn sick of every attractive woman with a point of view being called a bimbo. At least she's got the balls to put herself out there.
Reagan-Carter was the first election I could vote in so I paid very close attention. Today I feel like I'm on a deja vu roller coaster. As she's said, IF she decides to run (and I'm not sure the country deserves her) she's "in it to win it". She's constantly underestimated.
Jake says he'd have NO problem having such a hot CinC.
Cindie
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I have listened to her talk. I think her ideas are right up the alley of Jefferson, Adams and Washington.
Carter is a PhD. Obama went to top schools.
Again. Can you provide specifics of "brainless" and "bimbo"?
I find her dedicated to her family and plain spoken. I'm not saying she can win the presidency, but I think "brainless" and "bimbo" is a bit unfair, especially without specific examples.
There have been too many of these elitists running the country and not enough common sense patriots. We've gotten so used to a certain type of person being "presidential" material that we focus more on outward appearance (how would so and so do at a DC cocktail party or giving an Ivy League commencement speech) that substance is less important. It's gotten so ridiculous that we've got and empty-headed pretty boy who looks and sounds good when he reads speeches off a teleprompter.
The Constitution only requires that the president be 35 years old and a natural-born citizen. Had the founders thought any other qualifications necessary they would have included them. There's been too many thinkers and not enough doers. If she can run the US like she ran Alaska we could do worse but probably not much better.
Cindie
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And I'm damn sick of every attractive woman with a point of view being called a bimbo. At least she's got the balls to put herself out there.
I agree with you. She has experience, she has the courage to face the leftist controlled media, and she speaks the truth no matter how harsh it may be. Ultimately it does not matter how she looks, though I love how she makes ugly and bitter feminazis throw a temper tantrum and exposes their hypocrisy in the process.
Her confidence would help a lot in the diplomatic arena too. Sissy types like Obama do damage just by conversing with foreign leaders because they do not convey strength.
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It's gotten so ridiculous that we've got and empty-headed pretty boy who looks and sounds good when he reads speeches off a teleprompter.
Pretty boy? I could at least see where Bill Clinton's female fans were coming from when they used to pine about how handsome he was, as he wasn't an ugly man. Obama... only thing more visually off-putting than him would be Amy Winehouse or Gollum. Even so, my wife and I have some liberal female friends who actually think he's attractive! He looks like he was the sort of kid who got beat up for his lunch money on a regular basis.
I agree with you. She has experience, she has the courage to face the leftist controlled media, and she speaks the truth no matter how harsh it may be. Ultimately it does not matter how she looks, though I love how she makes ugly and bitter feminazis throw a temper tantrum and exposes their hypocrisy in the process.
Her confidence would help a lot in the diplomatic arena too. Sissy types like Obama do damage just by conversing with foreign leaders because they do not convey strength.
Amen. She'd do wonders where a dishrag like Obama has only cost us in the world's eyes. Sarah doesn't have his silver tongue, and thank God for that.
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Pretty boy? I could at least see where Bill Clinton's female fans were coming from when they used to pine about how handsome he was, as he wasn't an ugly man. Obama... only thing more visually off-putting than him would be Amy Winehouse or Gollum. Even so, my wife and I have some liberal female friends who actually think he's attractive! He looks like he was the sort of kid who got beat up for his lunch money on a regular basis.
Amen. She'd do wonders where a dishrag like Obama has only cost us in the world's eyes. Sarah doesn't have his silver tongue, and thank God for that.
I never thought of him like your description, though it's a good one.
He's always reminded me of those guys that you see in a gym, that are always staring at themselves in the wall mirrors to make sure they are looookkkinnnnnnnnn' gooood....at least in their own minds. ::) When he cants his chin up and looks down his nose when he's speaking....I just want to smack the shit out of him!! That look does not exude confidence....it screams arrogance and condescension. :argh:
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Head of the RNC is nothing but a glorified fundraiser. She's much too valuable for that. Personally I'd like to see her run because I think she can win (her political instincts are like none I've ever seen, even Reagan's). She runs circles around her critics, the media, 0bama, and even those on the right who think they're smarter than the average person.
And I'm damn sick of every attractive woman with a point of view being called a bimbo. At least she's got the balls to put herself out there.
Reagan-Carter was the first election I could vote in so I paid very close attention. Today I feel like I'm on a deja vu roller coaster. As she's said, IF she decides to run (and I'm not sure the country deserves her) she's "in it to win it". She's constantly underestimated.
Jake says he'd have NO problem having such a hot CinC.
Cindie
This is where everybody - Sarah included - needs to think outside the box just a little bit.
And, frankly, it's a little uncharacteristic of her to scoff at the top job at the helm of the RNC because she's accepting what other people tell her about the job.
I would think that she'd make something of this position. Do what hasn't been done before. Delegate the fund-raising to others who "enjoy it" perhaps, but getting out there and leading, pressing the flesh, speaking, and mobilizing real Americans toward self-empowerment and motivating to conservative causes - THAT is what she should be doing as chair of the RNC.
If she did that, there would be NO PROBLEM with money. All that would have to be done is to count it and spend it on the best conservative candidate the party can put out there.
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This is where everybody - Sarah included - needs to think outside the box just a little bit.
And, frankly, it's a little uncharacteristic of her to scoff at the top job at the helm of the RNC because she's accepting what other people tell her about the job.
I would think that she'd make something of this position. Do what hasn't been done before. Delegate the fund-raising to others who "enjoy it" perhaps, but getting out there and leading, pressing the flesh, speaking, and mobilizing real Americans toward self-empowerment and motivating to conservative causes - THAT is what she should be doing as chair of the RNC.
If she did that, there would be NO PROBLEM with money. All that would have to be done is to count it and spend it on the best conservative candidate the party can put out there.
Your reasoning is the same as mine.
There is something about Sarah that people are willing to open up their checkbooks. People pay lots of money to hear her speak, her books get snapped up. When she was selected as McCain's running mate, it was reported that money started flowing into their coffers, far exceeding what it had when it was just McCain, and continued up to the election.
I don't think Sarah would be spending much time asking for money. She would just need to get out there and rally the GOP behind the chosen candidate. Just as she was doing at the mid-terms. That is something that she is incredibly successful at doing, and it's a gift. Not just anybody has that capability.
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Your reasoning is the same as mine.
There is something about Sarah that people are willing to open up their checkbooks. People pay lots of money to hear her speak, her books get snapped up. When she was selected as McCain's running mate, it was reported that money started flowing into their coffers, far exceeding what it had when it was just McCain, and continued up to the election.
I don't think Sarah would be spending much time asking for money. She would just need to get out there and rally the GOP behind the chosen candidate. Just as she was doing at the mid-terms. That is something that she is incredibly successful at doing, and it's a gift. Not just anybody has that capability.
Palin is not a GOP loyalist. She is a Tea Party candidate that will try to change the Repub party and promote candidates that have the same agenda. If I was her, I would hate to be raising money for another RINO like Romney. She should stick to what she is doing now which is promoting ultra conservative values rather than whoring for some candidate she does see eye to eye with on many issues.
I want her to run for President. Getting in a nasty battle for Steele's job would do her no good because it would give the RINO's and the Eastern Establishment Rockefeller Repubs like Rove & Krawhammer an opportunity to gang up on her.
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Palin is not a GOP loyalist. She is a Tea Party candidate that will try to change the Repub party and promote candidates that have the same agenda. If I was her, I would hate to be raising money for another RINO like Romney. She should stick to what she is doing now which is promoting ultra conservative values rather than whoring for some candidate she does see eye to eye with on many issues.
I want her to run for President. Getting in a nasty battle for Steele's job would do her no good because it would give the RINO's and the Eastern Establishment Rockefeller Repubs like Rove & Krawhammer an opportunity to gang up on her.
Why are you assuming that Romney will be the chosen candidate?
The GOP and the Tea Party will end up uniting in some way...if for no other reason than to defeat the Democrats in 2012. If they remain split at the time of the presidential election, they might as well hand the presidency to the Democrats - and most likely Obama...because it will be the Dems with the majority vote.
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Why are you assuming that Romney will be the chosen candidate?
The GOP and the Tea Party will end up uniting in some way...if for no other reason than to defeat the Democrats in 2012. If they remain split at the time of the presidential election, they might as well hand the presidency to the Democrats - and most likely Obama...because it will be the Dems with the majority vote.
It's not an assumption, but it is a possibility. The problem is, the RNC MUST support the nominee. How could she do that and not compromise her principles? It's not like she can say, "hey I don't want him, but he's the choice so we have to get behind him, rah, rah." The chairman has to campaign (if only with TV interviews and a smattering of personal appearances) enthusiastically for the nominee. Because she's such a big draw it would be expected that she appear at rallies. She would be forced to compromise her personal values or go against the nominee. I hope we don't end up with a Romney but what if there's a Romney, Huck, Newt run-off (a VERY real possibility) and we end up being stuck with one of them?
Look what happened last time. Most of the true conservatives had all the charisma of a cotton ball. The only one who had personality, Thompson, obviously didn't want it. Open primaries in early voting states where the candidate is chosen before most of us get a voice pretty much guarantee a milquetoast. Even if she wanted to reshape the party she'd be forced to give lip service to the candidate's platform. At least for the time he/she is the candidate/party leader his agenda is the republican agenda. Like it or not, that's how it has to be.
Cindie
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Why are you assuming that Romney will be the chosen candidate?
The GOP and the Tea Party will end up uniting in some way...if for no other reason than to defeat the Democrats in 2012. If they remain split at the time of the presidential election, they might as well hand the presidency to the Democrats - and most likely Obama...because it will be the Dems with the majority vote.
Romney is the front runner. I sure hope he does not get it cause I will stay at home on election day. I will not vote for another RINO. If the Establishment Repubs want to pick and choose our nominee, I will have no part in it. I am fed up with Rockefeller jerks like Rove and Krawhammer spouting off their know it all philosophy. The GOP needs to change not the Tea Party. If they do not, Obama might get reelected. I am just not too big on compromising my principles anymore.
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It's not an assumption, but it is a possibility. The problem is, the RNC MUST support the nominee. How could she do that and not compromise her principles? It's not like she can say, "hey I don't want him, but he's the choice so we have to get behind him, rah, rah." The chairman has to campaign (if only with TV interviews and a smattering of personal appearances) enthusiastically for the nominee. Because she's such a big draw it would be expected that she appear at rallies. She would be forced to compromise her personal values or go against the nominee. I hope we don't end up with a Romney but what if there's a Romney, Huck, Newt run-off (a VERY real possibility) and we end up being stuck with one of them?
Look what happened last time. Most of the true conservatives had all the charisma of a cotton ball. The only one who had personality, Thompson, obviously didn't want it. Open primaries in early voting states where the candidate is chosen before most of us get a voice pretty much guarantee a milquetoast. Even if she wanted to reshape the party she'd be forced to give lip service to the candidate's platform. At least for the time he/she is the candidate/party leader his agenda is the republican agenda. Like it or not, that's how it has to be.
Cindie
Above all else (except her family), Palin is most assuredly a politician. That means she can suck it up and drive on when they put the key in the ignition and start the engine. She's a team player when it's called for.
I don't believe she'd be "sacrificing her principles" just as I don't believe she's officially any kind of Tea Party candidate. Oh sure, she appeals to Tea Partiers, but as it's not an official political party in any way (nor is it going to be), Palin isn't going to be running for office as a Tea Party candidate.
Somewhere upthread somebody (debk?) talked about the inevitable impact of presidential campaign on her family - and I would think, based on what I've seen, that she would not put her family through a nasty, vicious campaign at this time.
I could not agree with you more about the 2008 candy-dates. Cotton ball charisma is right.
The RNC needs to gin up a WORTHY candidate and get with the program. Obama will NOT be a pushover. Palin can definitely help get things rejuvenated, as Steele has let things languish far, far too long.
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This is where everybody - Sarah included - needs to think outside the box just a little bit.
And, frankly, it's a little uncharacteristic of her to scoff at the top job at the helm of the RNC because she's accepting what other people tell her about the job.
I would think that she'd make something of this position. Do what hasn't been done before. Delegate the fund-raising to others who "enjoy it" perhaps, but getting out there and leading, pressing the flesh, speaking, and mobilizing real Americans toward self-empowerment and motivating to conservative causes - THAT is what she should be doing as chair of the RNC.
If she did that, there would be NO PROBLEM with money. All that would have to be done is to count it and spend it on the best conservative candidate the party can put out there.
H5 for your post. Any chance you can make Palin "see the light"? I think she would be a great RNC chair, one that could change the face of Repubs.
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Romney is the front runner. I sure hope he does not get it cause I will stay at home on election day. I will not vote for another RINO. If the Establishment Repubs want to pick and choose our nominee, I will have no part in it. I am fed up with Rockefeller jerks like Rove and Krawhammer spouting off their know it all philosophy. The GOP needs to change not the Tea Party. If they do not, Obama might get reelected. I am just not too big on compromising my principles anymore.
I agree 100%. Romney is the worst because he would make sure we are stuck with Deathcare. He is the one who designed the thing and implemented it in his home state as governor.
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I agree 100%. Romney is the worst because he would make sure we are stuck with Deathcare. He is the one who designed the thing and implemented it in his home state as governor.
Romney is not just a RINO, he's a pretentious pretty boy who has made a career out of taking credit for other's work. I'm speaking specifically of the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake City, where he came swooping in like the proverbial pterodactyl, combed his hair, took a dump, and told everybody how pretty he was.
The only difference between Romney and Edwards is Edwards got caught.
F'n asshat.
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Does anybody else think Romney is Headroomesque, as in Mitt Headroom?
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Above all else (except her family), Palin is most assuredly a politician. That means she can suck it up and drive on when they put the key in the ignition and start the engine. She's a team player when it's called for.
I don't believe she'd be "sacrificing her principles" just as I don't believe she's officially any kind of Tea Party candidate. Oh sure, she appeals to Tea Partiers, but as it's not an official political party in any way (nor is it going to be), Palin isn't going to be running for office as a Tea Party candidate.
Somewhere upthread somebody (debk?) talked about the inevitable impact of presidential campaign on her family - and I would think, based on what I've seen, that she would not put her family through a nasty, vicious campaign at this time.
I could not agree with you more about the 2008 candy-dates. Cotton ball charisma is right.
The RNC needs to gin up a WORTHY candidate and get with the program. Obama will NOT be a pushover. Palin can definitely help get things rejuvenated, as Steele has let things languish far, far too long.
She's already been accused of such already because she had to parrot John McCain's platform when she was his VP nominee. Go on any Palin thread at FR and you'll hear it in spades (oops, is Vesta around, maybe I shouldn't use that word). Whether she runs or not, no way would I want to see her head of the RNC. She can start her own pac (Conservative National Committee) or whatever but the RNC isn't worth saving. Eventually it'll once again become what it is now...a polite, politically correct, inside the beltway organization that serves as a way to pay back people you owe but don't know what else to do with.
Cindie
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Romney is not just a RINO, he's a pretentious pretty boy who has made a career out of taking credit for other's work. I'm speaking specifically of the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake City, where he came swooping in like the proverbial pterodactyl, combed his hair, took a dump, and told everybody how pretty he was.
The only difference between Romney and Edwards is Edwards got caught.
F'n asshat.
That's probably because Edwards doesn't wear underwear with magical powers (my apologies to any Mormons, I couldn't resist considering Edwards' proclivities).
Cindie
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Look what happened last time. Most of the true conservatives had all the charisma of a cotton ball. The only one who had personality, Thompson, obviously didn't want it. Open primaries in early voting states where the candidate is chosen before most of us get a voice pretty much guarantee a milquetoast.
Cindie
This is what irks me the most about the republicrat party atm. The open primaries had McVain chosen before I could even vote here in Florida. Since Bush 43's first term I no longer affiliate myself with the repub party. I am a conservative which apparently is not the same as "republican" anymore. I definitely dont drink that "compassionate conservative" koolaid. I gave about 35k to help get Bush re-elected as a "lesser of 2 evils". But thats it. Im finished with the repukes. I only give directly to individual candidates now since the party no longer respects my wishes. My wishes?: I want closed primaries so that democrats in the North East can no longer "cross over" and determine who our candidate is going to be in those 3 or 4 states before the rest of us even gets a chance to vote our choice. Thats how we got McCrap and that is how they will ram Romney or whoever down our throats. I for one am sick of it.
Boehner says it will no longer be "business as usual". Well ... if words were the only thing that mattered (to me) I might as well vote for the commissar, the messiah, the "one". Fool me once.. shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me ... I am not a liberal moonbat that swoons at pretty sounding rhetoric. Talk is cheap Mr Beohner. I held my breath for 8 YEARS with milk toast Bush. And I had to defend him too, because he wouldnt defend himself ... how stupid do you think that made me feel?
But, no more. No more talk. You Mr Boehner are the new speaker. I am watching. I am watching you and the rest of the leadership like a hawk. I know you appointed liberal repukes to the committee chairs already because of "the good 'ol boys network" and because it was "their turn". Except for the one you made an exception for so he could chair again despite term limits. All liberal repukes. All appointed by ... YOU.
Actions speak louder than words Mr Speaker. How is this NOT "business as usual"? I suspect YOU are the next impediment to our nations return to constitutional, limited government governing. I suspect YOU are the next one that must be thrown out (voted out) and replaced because despite the language (key words) you use, its nothing more than smoke and mirrors like your friends across the aisle from you use. I am not your mindless drone Mr Speaker. If you cant or wont lead like a conservative, then get the hell out of the way and we will find somebody who will. Please... do me a favor. Go piss on someone else and tell them its raining. Or go play in traffic ... either way, I dont care.
Go Tea Party! (Btw ... luv Fred Thompson too.) :)
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This is what irks me the most about the republicrat party atm. The open primaries had McVain chosen before I could even vote here in Florida. Since Bush 43's first term I no longer affiliate myself with the repub party. I am a conservative which apparently is not the same as "republican" anymore. I definitely dont drink that "compassionate conservative" koolaid. I gave about 35k to help get Bush re-elected as a "lesser of 2 evils". But thats it. Im finished with the repukes. I only give directly to individual candidates now since the party no longer respects my wishes. My wishes?: I want closed primaries so that democrats in the North East can no longer "cross over" and determine who our candidate is going to be in those 3 or 4 states before the rest of us even gets a chance to vote our choice. Thats how we got McCrap and that is how they will ram Romney or whoever down our throats. I for one am sick of it.
Go Tea Party! (Btw ... luv Fred Thompson too.) :)
Hey Janice, I don't know which North East you were referring to beside New Hampshire. New Jersey (my state) and many of the other North East don't have primaries until late spring through late summer, to the best of my recollection.
You're not the only one who prefers closed primaries and a schedule where my vote might actually matter.
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Hey Janice, I don't know which North East you were referring to beside New Hampshire. New Jersey (my state) and many of the other North East don't have primaries until late spring through late summer, to the best of my recollection.
You're not the only one who prefers closed primaries and a schedule where my vote might actually matter.
Yup New Hampshire is one of them. A bit more NE than you. :)
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Boehner says it will no longer be "business as usual". Well ... if words were the only thing that mattered (to me) I might as well vote for the commissar, the messiah, the "one". Fool me once.. shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me ... I am not a liberal moonbat that swoons at pretty sounding rhetoric. Talk is cheap Mr Beohner. I held my breath for 8 YEARS with milk toast Bush. And I had to defend him too, because he wouldnt defend himself ... how stupid do you think that made me feel?
But, no more. No more talk. You Mr Boehner are the new speaker. I am watching. I am watching you and the rest of the leadership like a hawk. I know you appointed liberal repukes to the committee chairs already because of "the good 'ol boys network" and because it was "their turn". Except for the one you made an exception for so he could chair again despite term limits. All liberal repukes. All appointed by ... YOU.
Actions speak louder than words Mr Speaker. How is this NOT "business as usual"? I suspect YOU are the next impediment to our nations return to constitutional, limited government governing. I suspect YOU are the next one that must be thrown out (voted out) and replaced because despite the language (key words) you use, its nothing more than smoke and mirrors like your friends across the aisle from you use. I am not your mindless drone Mr Speaker. If you cant or wont lead like a conservative, then get the hell out of the way and we will find somebody who will. Please... do me a favor. Go piss on someone else and tell them its raining. Or go play in traffic ... either way, I dont care.
Go Tea Party! (Btw ... luv Fred Thompson too.) :)
I was hoping that Boehner would not be elected speaker but that is how this shithole town of DC works. Seniority means everything. The new Tea Party House members will get a few crumbs. For the life of me, his crying jags just piss me off. Ball busting Democrats like Barney, Obummer, Pisslosi, etc must be laughing their ass off. This weak kneeded politician is going to crumble in the presence of Obama just like McCain does everytime his name is mentioned. JHC, Palin has got more backbone than 99% of these panty wasted old dogs in Congress. I do not see any fighters in the Repub party. Just about every damn one of them wimped out until the the Tea Party started taking hold. They could not wait until today to pass a clean tax extension bill and save 300 billions dollars which will be dumped on the national debt.
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Palin is actually not that big a deal, the media just loves to use her to attract attention.
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Palin is actually not that big a deal, the media just loves to use her to attract attention.
Palin can attrack 3 times the crowd of supporters than your boy Romney. I will not vote for the originator of the Health Care debacle in MA. We have a smooth talking slick Democrat in office today. Repubs do not need a replication.
Palin will be the nominee and the next President.
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John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and Eric Cantor. These are the old guard. The "establishment" repuke "leadership" that we have to watch (and possibly vote out). Watch -- as they throw us a little red meat now and then to "string us along". They will cause gridlock, which is better than what we have now but they wont advance any true limited government reforms (other than to "mouth" them). Real reform will only happen thru our tea party representatives who are only newly minted freshmen and dont actually wield any real power other than their numbers. Which are/is not enough to challenge the current Establishment, Old Guard, Country Club, Blue Blood Repukes.
These 3 (Boehner, McConnell, Cantor) used to be effective to a large degree or another. But they have obviously been there too long now. They for whatever reason did not "get the message" this last election or they did, but they decided to put it on "ignore" because that is what the Washington "ruling elites" do to those of us in "fly over country".
2012 is our next chance to shake things up tea party style. It also may be our (the republican partys) last. Especially in the senate. Then theres 2014. But 2012 is key now.
As the old Who song says, take care: "we dont get fooled again ...". Throw these ba*tards out before its too late.
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Palin is actually not that big a deal, the media just loves to use her to attract attention.
I do not see Mitt Rommel energizing the entire Tea Party crowd as Sarah does.
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I do not see Mitt Rommel energizing the entire Tea Party crowd as Sarah does.
I don't see Mitt Romney AT ALL.
He's mounting his forces and waiting for the big announcement. :whatever:
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Does anybody else think Romney is Headroomesque, as in Mitt Headroom?
Excellent point. His hair may well be 1990-era retro CGI instead of just plastic.
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John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and Eric Cantor. These are the old guard. The "establishment" repuke "leadership" that we have to watch (and possibly vote out). Watch -- as they throw us a little red meat now and then to "string us along". They will cause gridlock, which is better than what we have now but they wont advance any true limited government reforms (other than to "mouth" them). Real reform will only happen thru our tea party representatives who are only newly minted freshmen and dont actually wield any real power other than their numbers. Which are/is not enough to challenge the current Establishment, Old Guard, Country Club, Blue Blood Repukes.
These 3 (Boehner, McConnell, Cantor) used to be effective to a large degree or another. But they have obviously been there too long now. They for whatever reason did not "get the message" this last election or they did, but they decided to put it on "ignore" because that is what the Washington "ruling elites" do to those of us in "fly over country".
2012 is our next chance to shake things up tea party style. It also may be our (the republican partys) last. Especially in the senate. Then theres 2014. But 2012 is key now.
As the old Who song says, take care: "we dont get fooled again ...". Throw these ba*tards out before its too late.
I maybe a crazy optimist...But I think Boehner, at least, got the message from the voters loud and clear. Witness his reponse to Harry Reid and the Democrats' attack about repealing that nightmare Obamacare...
Thank you for reminding us – and the American people – of the backroom deal that you struck behind closed doors with ‘Big Pharma,’ resulting in bigger profits for the drug companies, and higher prescription drug costs for 33 million seniors enrolled in Medicare Part D, at a cost to the taxpayers of $42.6 billion.
The House is going to pass legislation to repeal that now. You’re welcome.
link (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/135895-boehner-fires-back-at-dem-senators-with-vow-to-push-forward-with-repeal)
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I don't see Mitt Romney AT ALL.
He's mounting his forces and waiting for the big announcement. :whatever:
Romney is about as bad as it gets for our nominee. He is even worse than McCain. A slick, pretty boy, with a helmet hair doo, RINO is not what we need.
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Romney is about as bad as it gets for our nominee. He is even worse than McCain. A slick, pretty boy, with a helmet hair doo, RINO is not what we need.
Come to think of it, Mitt Rommel would do nothing but divide the Republican base enough for the corruptocrat to win.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer
I post here please move to appropriate area..
I cannot stand this man. Did you know..In 1978, Krauthammer quit medical practice to direct planning in psychiatric research for the Jimmy Carter administration, and began contributing to The New Republic magazine. During the presidential campaign of 1980, Krauthammer served as a speech writer to Vice President Walter Mondale.
He is a lib. One of them. I used to like the guy until I found out he worked for Carter as a speech writer. What about the rest of the forum? Do you like him?
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Come to think of it, Mitt Rommel would do nothing but divide the Republican base enough for the corruptocrat to win.
Yep, cause this is one conservative that would stay home.
Krawhammer and Rove always spout off they are analyst when asked about bad mouthing Palin. I never hear them pound on Mitt, Huck, Newt, etc. Tells me that these two Rockefeller, eastern establishment, Ivy league, blue bloods, can not stand Palin.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer
I post here please move to appropriate area..
I cannot stand this man. Did you know..
He is a lib. One of them. I used to like the guy until I found out he worked for Carter as a speech writer. What about the rest of the forum? Do you like him?
Honestly, I like a lot of what he has to say. He has a few blind spots, but I agree with about 75 percent of his columns.
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Honestly, I like a lot of what he has to say. He has a few blind spots, but I agree with about 75 percent of his columns.
Listen to him carefully from now on. He is for open borders, a woman's right to choose. He is against repealing of health care.
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John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and Eric Cantor. These are the old guard. The "establishment" repuke "leadership" that we have to watch (and possibly vote out). Watch -- as they throw us a little red meat now and then to "string us along". They will cause gridlock, which is better than what we have now but they wont advance any true limited government reforms (other than to "mouth" them). Real reform will only happen thru our tea party representatives who are only newly minted freshmen and dont actually wield any real power other than their numbers. Which are/is not enough to challenge the current Establishment, Old Guard, Country Club, Blue Blood Repukes.
These 3 (Boehner, McConnell, Cantor) used to be effective to a large degree or another. But they have obviously been there too long now. They for whatever reason did not "get the message" this last election or they did, but they decided to put it on "ignore" because that is what the Washington "ruling elites" do to those of us in "fly over country".
2012 is our next chance to shake things up tea party style. It also may be our (the republican partys) last. Especially in the senate. Then theres 2014. But 2012 is key now.
As the old Who song says, take care: "we dont get fooled again ...". Throw these ba*tards out before its too late.
Dear Janice,
This is a really picky little point but could you NOT call them repukes? Every time I see it I have to check and see whether someone's quoting one of them or reposting something from DU. You can call them another pet name but that one makes me really suspicious.
Cindie
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Listen to him carefully from now on. He is for open borders, a woman's right to choose. He is against repealing of health care.
I know he believes it's a women's right to choose. But I have heard him say that the health care bill is unconstitutional, and I don't believe he is for open borders. Please cite where he says he's for open borders. There is nothing in the wiki entry that says he is, if there is I have missed finding it - twice.
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Yep, cause this is one conservative that would stay home.
I have a friend that says the same thing and I can't believe anyone would let the current resident of the WH stay in power, even over a RINO, because you refuse to vote under these circumstances. Romney isn't my choice, I admit I voted for him in the primaries (in protest over McCain) and truly hope he isn't on the ticket this time. But to NOT VOTE????
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I have a friend that says the same thing and I can't believe anyone would let the current resident of the WH stay in power, even over a RINO, because you refuse to vote under these circumstances. Romney isn't my choice, I admit I voted for him in the primaries (in protest over McCain) and truly hope he isn't on the ticket this time. But to NOT VOTE????
My brother and his wife and a couple of my friends will not vote for a Yankee RINO. It is just that simple. If the GOP establishment helps him win the nomination, a lot of southerner's will stay home. The Republician party better get their act together. They have been given a second chance. They screw up again, we might be looking at a 3rd party which would devastate the Republican party.
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My brother and his wife and a couple of my friends will not vote for a Yankee RINO. It is just that simple. If the GOP establishment helps him win the nomination, a lot of southerner's will stay home. The Republician party better get their act together. They have been given a second chance. They screw up again, we might be looking at a 3rd party which would devastate the Republican party.
Take out the RINO there. Would they vote for a Yankee? As a "Yankee," I would support a southerner if he/she was a good candidate who believed in fiscal discipline, pro-growth economic policies, border security, and the Bush-era foreign policy. I admit I am no fan of Haley Barbour or Rick Perry, but I truly admire Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), and Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA).
I bet Newt Gingrich will win most southern states, though Romney will probably win Florida.
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Honestly, I like a lot of what he has to say. He has a few blind spots, but I agree with about 75 percent of his columns.
I like him also. He is not always right, but no columnist is.
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I know he believes it's a women's right to choose. But I have heard him say that the health care bill is unconstitutional, and I don't believe he is for open borders. Please cite where he says he's for open borders. There is nothing in the wiki entry that says he is, if there is I have missed finding it - twice.
I haven't seen it either, and have heard him speak out against the Obama administration for their action against Arizona.
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I haven't seen it either, and have heard him speak out against the Obama administration for their action against Arizona.
Me too, which was why I asked where CG saw it. I've also seen him rant about the health care bill.
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I know he believes it's a women's right to choose. But I have heard him say that the health care bill is unconstitutional, and I don't believe he is for open borders. Please cite where he says he's for open borders. There is nothing in the wiki entry that says he is, if there is I have missed finding it - twice.
I will look for a link debk....
Charles Krauthammer Supports A Path To Citizenship — As Soon As The Border Is 95% Secure
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/charles-krauthammer-supports-a-path-to-citizenship-as-soon-as-the-border-is-95-secure/
Washington Post columnist and Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer has developed a strong following on the right for his measured opposition to Obama administration policy, but on tonight’s O’Reilly Factor, he came out in support of a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already residing in this country– as long as the border is “95%†secure.
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Listen to him carefully from now on. He is for open borders, a woman's right to choose. He is against repealing of health care.
I read him pretty regularly. I know he's said that Repubs shouldn't just try to defund obamacare, because, well..
I am skeptical about taking away the funds because what it will do, it will poke holes in the system. It will make it more chaotic . . . and in the end, if healthcare collapses or if it becomes utterly unworkable, the Democrats will have a way of saying ‘well, it was all these injuries inflicted by the Republicans that made it not work.’ I think the smarter approach is to simply expose to the American people what’s in the bill. All the arbitrariness, all the incredibly increased expenses, all the contradictions in it, also the inherent corruption in it.
link (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/charles-krauthammer-republicans-should-not-take-away-funds-from-obamacare/)
I think he's talking more along the lines of political wrangling.
I've never seen him write in favor of open borders. I've seen him in favor of a fence, and he's defended Arizona's lawsuit as proof of the failure of the feds.
I disagree with him on abortion, of course. And there's no question that he has an anti-Palin obsession.
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Romney is about as bad as it gets for our nominee. He is even worse than McCain. A slick, pretty boy, with a helmet hair doo, RINO is not what we need.
Romney is not a RINO. He has consistently supported free trade, tax relief, spending restraint, smaller government, choice in education, tough ethics rules, off-shore drilling, our mission in the middle-east, secured borders, and free-market economic policies. He did change his views on abortion, guns, DADT, and ethanol. His healthcare plan was fundamentally flawed. He is not farthest to the right, but he is still somewhat conservative. Reagan was not a perfect conservative either; he raised corporate tax rates in '86, he granted amnesty to illegals, and he increased the deficit. Every single GOP candidate has at least one flaw.
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Romney is not a RINO. He has consistently supported free trade, tax relief, spending restraint, smaller government, choice in education, tough ethics rules, off-shore drilling, our mission in the middle-east, secured borders, and free-market economic policies. He did change his views on abortion, guns, DADT, and ethanol. His healthcare plan was fundamentally flawed. He is not farthest to the right, but he is still somewhat conservative. Reagan was not a perfect conservative either; he raised corporate tax rates in '86, he granted amnesty to illegals, and he increased the deficit. Every single GOP candidate has at least one flaw.
You said it best. He is somewhat Conservative. That the same postion that place I put McCain in. I don't want a half ass conservative which equals a RINO to this writer. This country is facing extreme debt problems. Many of those conservative values you mention happened when he ran for President. A slick politician like Romney is not going to fool too many real conservatives. He was the originator of MA health care that put the nail in his coffin from my perspective.
Like I said, nominate Romney and many Southerner's will stay home .
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You said it best. He is somewhat Conservative. That the same postion that place I put McCain in. I don't want a half ass conservative which equals a RINO to this writer. This country is facing extreme debt problems. Many of those conservative values you mention happened when he ran for President. A slick politician like Romney is not going to fool too many real conservatives. He was the originator of MA health care that put the nail in his coffin from my perspective.
Like I said, nominate Romney and many Southerner's will stay home .
McCain is a moderate, Romney is a conservative. We are facing debt problems, and Romney has experience turning things around; he left MA with a surplus. He has been a supporter of the positions I listed from before his run for President. McCain won the south in '08 which means Romney, who is more popular with conservative voters, can win it next time.
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McCain is a moderate, Romney is a conservative. We are facing debt problems, and Romney has experience turning things around; he left MA with a surplus. He has been a supporter of the positions I listed from before his run for President. McCain won the south in '08 which means Romney, who is more popular with conservative voters, can win it next time.
He will never live down the tag of being a liberal or RINO because of MASScare. I don't care how you spin it. Also, he is flip flopper on abortion. He was for it and then he was against it. He opposed Barry Goldwater. He is for queer rights, blah blah. BTW, MA is in bad financial shape because of health care costs.
Palin is a much better choice who will not have to explain her position on Obama care. Obamacare mirrors MAsscare so I guess he is going to trying to pull a Clinton with I was for it but now I am against it. That sinks his ship in the South and parts of the Midwest. He can not win.
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I will look for a link debk....
Charles Krauthammer Supports A Path To Citizenship — As Soon As The Border Is 95% Secure
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/charles-krauthammer-supports-a-path-to-citizenship-as-soon-as-the-border-is-95-secure/
Supporting a "path to citizenship" is not the same as "pro open borders".
He is only for supporting the path, AFTER a fence is built and the flow of illegals is stopped.
It is unrealistic to ever think that the US will send 20million illegals back across the borders. It's an insurmountable task for many reasons...primarily there is not the funding nor the manpower to do it. If the government can't find the money to build a fence, they sure as hell aren't going to find the money to round them all up and ship them back.
Krauthammer wants those who want to become citizens to have to learn English first and take civics classes. I think it's a great idea. It should be mandatory, that if an individual from another country wants to become a US citizen, then they should have to learn English and become fluent, and take some history/civics classes FIRST. Want to be American, learn what it is to be an American... and then apply to become an American. In the meantime, here's a tax number for you, you will work and you will pay taxes on ALL the money you make.
There are gazillions of dollars not being paid into the tax coffers of this country on a state level and certainly not on a national level by millions of illegals who not only work on a daily basis, many of them work far more than 40 hours a week. This country needs those tax dollars!! Let's see how many of them really want to stay, once they have to start paying taxes.