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Title: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: formerlurker on December 28, 2010, 06:36:02 AM
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Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
BY L. L. BRASIER
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

A Rochester Hills man faces up to 5 years in prison -- for reading his wife's e-mail.

Oakland County prosecutors, relying on a Michigan statute typically used to prosecute crimes such as identity theft or stealing trade secrets, have charged Leon Walker, 33, with a felony after he logged onto a laptop in the home he shared with his wife, Clara Walker

http://www.freep.com/article/20101226/NEWS03/12260530/&template=fullarticle



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Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: mamacags on December 28, 2010, 06:40:29 AM
Nope. 
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 28, 2010, 06:42:42 AM
What liberalism hath wrought.

The idea behind marriage is that both partners cease to be individual entities.

No piece of mail, stick of household property, financial record etc is the exclusive property of the either party unless dissolved by the courts.


BTW - how many wives could/would stand trial for the same offense. The entire story betrays the sexism of "women are victims, men are cheating and/or stalking bastards."
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 28, 2010, 06:57:25 AM
Is reading wife's e-mail a crime?...  Only if you kill the bastard she's been cheating with.
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: vesta111 on December 28, 2010, 09:05:15 AM
Is reading wife's e-mail a crime?...  Only if you kill the bastard she's been cheating with.

Lets arrest Tiger Woods ex-wife for reading his calls on the cell phone and then checking on them.
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 28, 2010, 09:07:46 AM
Can I go back and charge my ex-wife with a crime for reading my e-mail? :-)
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Max on December 28, 2010, 09:16:13 AM
What liberalism hath wrought....

 
BTW - how many wives could/would stand trial for the same offense. The entire story betrays the sexism of "women are victims, men are cheating and/or stalking bastards."

Yep, democrat (naturally) and supposedly womans advocate.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23686732528
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: debk on December 28, 2010, 09:21:25 AM
Hey...if the SOB is going to fool around...I'm going to look for any detail that I can.

So I can use it in my defense when I'm on trial for doing serious bodily harm to him. "I was provoked, Your Honor, and my mental anguish caused me to behave irrationally. Mea culpa."


(he who dips wick in strange pot, will get it whacked off.....or Super-Glued shut..... :evil:)
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Thor on December 28, 2010, 09:34:55 AM
What liberalism hath wrought.

The idea behind marriage is that both partners cease to be individual entities.

No piece of mail, stick of household property, financial record etc is the exclusive property of the either party unless dissolved by the courts.


BTW - how many wives could/would stand trial for the same offense. The entire story betrays the sexism of "women are victims, men are cheating and/or stalking bastards."

I tend to agree with this mentality. Furthermore, IF the wife didn't want him spying on her email, she could very easily keep the password safe, not used familiar words/phrases/ numbers for her password, not have it stored, etc. Unless he was using a key logger, I don't see where he did anything truly wrong. Of course, I have some pretty strong opinions about wives and their cheating.
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: IassaFTots on December 28, 2010, 09:51:54 AM
I tend to agree with this mentality. Furthermore, IF the wife didn't want him spying on her email, she could very easily keep the password safe, not used familiar words/phrases/ numbers for her password, not have it stored, etc. Unless he was using a key logger, I don't see where he did anything truly wrong. Of course, I have some pretty strong opinions about wives and their cheating.

I have some pretty strong opinions about husbands and their cheating and I agree with you 100%.  I would also like to add that if one is going to do things one shouldn't do...then perhaps they ought not keep a record of it.  Electronic or otherwise. 
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: thundley4 on December 28, 2010, 09:57:22 AM
I have some pretty strong opinions about husbands and their cheating and I agree with you 100%.  I would also like to add that if one is going to do things one shouldn't do...then perhaps they ought not keep a record of it.  Electronic or otherwise. 


My wife can go on my computers any time she wants even if I'm not home. I use the auto-fill for most log ins, so she could  check my emails or this board or other  boards if she wanted.  I don't do anything I'm not supposed to.  O-)
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: IassaFTots on December 28, 2010, 10:08:29 AM

My wife can go on my computers any time she wants even if I'm not home. I use the auto-fill for most log ins, so she could  check my emails or this board or other  boards if she wanted.  I don't do anything I'm not supposed to.  O-)

Exactly.  :cheersmate: There shouldn't be any expectation of privacy in home email, just like there isn't any with regular mail.   With that being said, there was a time in my life when I was involved with a psycho hose-beast of a man.  I wasn't doing anything wrong, we shared a computer, and a home email address.  I found out later that he had been deleting emails from my friends, that lived overseas, one of whom was in the Marines at the time.  For almost a whole year, they thought I was dissing them.   :argh: 
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: thundley4 on December 28, 2010, 10:22:06 AM
Exactly.  :cheersmate: There shouldn't be any expectation of privacy in home email, just like there isn't any with regular mail.   With that being said, there was a time in my life when I was involved with a psycho hose-beast of a man.  I wasn't doing anything wrong, we shared a computer, and a home email address.  I found out later that he had been deleting emails from my friends, that lived overseas, one of whom was in the Marines at the time.  For almost a whole year, they thought I was dissing them.   :argh: 

The way our computer desks are arranged, my wife can look over my shoulder and see my screen at any time. At least the one monitor, my other one is situated  where she can't see it from her desk.
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Evil_Conservative on December 28, 2010, 10:26:38 AM
What if this woman kept her stuff logged in all day?  That's how my e-mail address is at home.

I don't think this man will end up being charged with anything.  If I were in his shoes, I'd want to protect MY child from any type of abuse.
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Celtic Rose on December 28, 2010, 11:20:47 AM
What if this woman kept her stuff logged in all day?  That's how my e-mail address is at home.

I don't think this man will end up being charged with anything.  If I were in his shoes, I'd want to protect MY child from any type of abuse.

The prosecutor sounds like an idiot, charging the guy with "hacking."  The wife was the one doing something wrong, the one having an affair.  She is basically trying to deflect the blame onto her husband.  Sounds like a B**ch
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Eupher on December 28, 2010, 11:50:26 AM
Y'all are missing the big picture.

This is southeastern Michigan. Home of the Sucking Chest Wound. Palace of Pukes. Locale of Lunatics. Crib of Criminals.

Need I say more?

Well, I will, just because.  :tongue:

I believe that, within the sanctity of Holy Marriage, there is an element of privacy that can and should be respected by each partner toward the other. This is based on trust and confidence in the other. For that reason, I leave my wallet out just anywhere (that's a problem, but under a different thread, m-kay?); my email at home is wide open (no passwords, etc.,) and while I do the finances, we talk about major expenditures, i.e., exceeding $200.

I can be certain that she doesn't rifle through my wallet and go through my email - and even if she does, I'm not worried about it because there's nothing of substance there.

That said, we have our joint checking account. And joint savings account. I also have my own checking account, and so does she. (Gig and music teaching money is our own.)

Now I've also been victim to a wife (not this one) who had a wandering eye. It took me about 2 nanoseconds to dump her after I got wind of it, and she paid the price ever since.

Trust is a very delicate condition that can be destroyed in a heartbeat. But when it's there and it's reciprocal, it's a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: IassaFTots on December 28, 2010, 12:02:37 PM
Y'all are missing the big picture.

Trust is a very delicate condition that can be destroyed in a heartbeat. But when it's there and it's reciprocal, it's a wonderful thing.

That last line, that was the big picture, buddy.  I consider myself fortunate to be smack right there now.    :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: true_blood on December 28, 2010, 12:52:37 PM
Liberalism, the mental disorder.
It seems to be getting worse and worse everyday, with these dumb ****s. :argh: :argh:
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Evil_Conservative on December 28, 2010, 01:42:46 PM
The prosecutor sounds like an idiot, charging the guy with "hacking."  The wife was the one doing something wrong, the one having an affair.  She is basically trying to deflect the blame onto her husband.  Sounds like a B**ch

Sounds like a typical liberal... not wanting to take blame for their own faults.

Anyone can snoop in my e-mail.  All you're going to find are bill reminders.  And maybe an e-mail with coupons in it.  Nothing exciting.

Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 28, 2010, 03:54:30 PM
I don't see anything wrong with reading wife's e-mail. Maybe she was cheating on him.
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Tucker on December 28, 2010, 04:22:26 PM
The prosecutor sounds like an idiot, charging the guy with "hacking."  The wife was the one doing something wrong, the one having an affair.  She is basically trying to deflect the blame onto her husband.  Sounds like a B**ch

The Prosecutor, Jessica Cooper, is an uber liberal. She got in on the coattails of obama. First liberal in 30 years.

I'm moving.
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Eupher on December 28, 2010, 04:25:11 PM
The Prosecutor, Jessica Cooper, is an uber liberal. She got in on the coattails of obama. First liberal in 30 years.

I'm moving.

It's probably less insane up in the Thumb, but who needs the commute?
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Tucker on December 28, 2010, 04:54:37 PM
It's probably less insane up in the Thumb, but who needs the commute?

I don't work. I retired 4 years ago. I've been trying to sell my house and go back to TN. We decided to just take the loss. I'm moving this year. I'm taking my wife to TN in Jan.
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: debk on December 28, 2010, 04:56:44 PM
I don't work. I retired 4 years ago. I've been trying to sell my house and go back to TN. We decided to just take the loss. I'm moving this year. I'm taking my wife to TN in Jan.

Hey Tucker....where down here are you going to move?
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Texacon on December 28, 2010, 05:12:56 PM
I tend to agree with this mentality. Furthermore, IF the wife didn't want him spying on her email, she could very easily keep the password safe, not used familiar words/phrases/ numbers for her password, not have it stored, etc. Unless he was using a key logger, I don't see where he did anything truly wrong. Of course, I have some pretty strong opinions about wives and their cheating.

Who would want to be married to a woman who was too stupid to set up a completely different email account.  It's not like the 'cost' very much.

 :whatever:

I just don't like stupid people.  If it was my wife and I found her cheating on her own account I would divorce her based on stupidity alone.

KC
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: Tucker on December 28, 2010, 05:19:39 PM
Hey Tucker....where down here are you going to move?

Not far from you. Greeneville. I'm from Jonesborough.

I shoot at Oak Ridge.
Title: Re: Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
Post by: debk on December 28, 2010, 05:22:44 PM
Not far from you. Greeneville. I'm from Jonesborough.

I shoot at Oak Ridge.

Cool!