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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: compaqxp on December 26, 2010, 06:40:04 PM
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Lets assume were back during the presidential race, was there ever a time you supported Obama? What would he have had to do for your support in the early days?
Just wondering.
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He condones and supports infanticide. Just one of many issues he is on the wrong side of.
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No, never.
There is not a single policy I have agreed with from Obama. And I don't think that will change in the near future.
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Not a snowball's chance in hell. My dad, and I knew what he was on the campaign trail, and so did many others. The problem is that the majority of Americans got wrapped up in the "hopey changey" BS. I tend to support good, decent people. He misses on both counts.
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There was a man I listened to at the 2004 democratic convention that gave me goosebumps -- although there was no substance whatsoever to what he was saying, the way he spoke to the crowd was almost magical.
You can't teach that. You are born with it. Say what you want about Sarah Palin, she has that gift also.
I said at that time, this man gets groomed properly by the DNC? he will be unbeatable. Well, politically he instead went from crawling to running and skipped walking altogether. The walking part being rather critical.
He sucks as a president. There is never a time I would have supported him however as his political beliefs are detrimental to our country.
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Sure, if his political beliefs were just about the exact opposite of what they are.
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No.
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What little there is of his record as a senator in Springfield, and his even smaller record in the Senate in Washington were more than ample evidence to never support him. Then throw in the fact that he never faced any opposition in his other campaigns, due to his dirty politics. :bird: him.
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I would be more than happy to support Obama.
If, his ideology did about a 180.
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I would wholeheartedly support Obama if he got on television one night in 2012 and said, "Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President."
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Lets assume were back during the presidential race, was there ever a time you supported Obama? What would he have had to do for your support in the early days?
Just wondering.
No...**** no.
I had enough issues voting for McCain.
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Not that it would have changed my vote, but if he'd ever produced his birth certificate I would have at least conceded his qualification on paper to be in the presidential race.
As for the rest, the reason Hillary, and later John and Sarah, lost, was because this smooth talking SOB came on to the American people like a cheap ho, promising much and delivering nothing. Except a case of political herpes, that is. :bird:
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Hardly. He was clearly the least-qualified of all four Prez/VP candidates, with no apparent relevant experience whatsoever. His entire resume boiled down to helping ACORN suck tax money out of entitlement programs as an apparatchik, being able to read aloud well, and looking Black-but-not-TOO-Black. On top of that he is a child of the Chicago Democrat machine, which means he is four-square for a ton of bad ideas ranging from RKBA to the value of unions to economic theories that would be transparently foolish to anyone smart enough to steer clear of Ponzi schemes and emails from Nigeria.
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I wouldnt even support McCain let alone obama. Both candidates stunk to high heaven.
But Odumbo was the worst.
I didnt like Bush (the 'compassionate' conservative) either, but he was the lesser of 2 evils. (in the first primaries I voted Steve Forbes) But americans are generally a vain lot indeed. If somebody looks prettier or does a better job of selling snake oil - then the media will support him or her and the sheeple will vote him into power.
Btw - 'compassionate' conservative is code for RINO.
Hasnt been anything worth a pot to piss in since Reagan.
People forget .. he (Reagan) ran 3 times before he got elected. And he always had a democrat majority congress he had to deal with. Conservatism is a completely unnatural act for 99% of politicians because it empowers the governed (the voters) over the governors (the government). Its the reason President Washington returned to his home after his term was done when he could have been King. He set the example for all presidents to follow. Until Roosevelt anyways. Its just too easy to get 'drunk' on the power - as obama is finding out now. Its all too human.
But if we simply allow them to shred the constitution as they are doing now (both partys) - then all bets are off. Rome fell the same way. Without the rule of law - what have you got? We are currently in what can be described as a 'soft tyranny'. Guess what follows if we dont stop and reverse it? As sure as communism follows socialism.
Can you guess the diff between communism and socialism?
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No. Would you vote for him again?
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Do you honestly expect an answer, AM?
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NO not only that but HELL NO!!
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Do you honestly expect an answer, AM?
I'm giving it time to look up the official DUmmy answer, Rev.
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Well hell, I could give you that:
"Yes I would. He's been great for our country. Plus he's black, so it shows that we are a diverse nation. It's the fault of the repukes that he's gotten nothing done though. They've been against him from the beginning. BOOOOOOOOO! HISSSSSSSSSSS!"
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Lets assume were back during the presidential race, was there ever a time you supported Obama?
As much as I disliked and dislike McCain, there was never a time I supported Obama.
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With all due respect, that's a pretty ****in' stupid question to ask on a forum called Conservative Cave.
Were you born stupid or is it something you had to train for ?
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Eye of the tiger, LC. Eye of the tiger...
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With all due respect, that's a pretty ****in' stupid question to ask on a forum called Conservative Cave.
So? You considered it important enough to respond to it.
...or is it something you had to train for ?
Yes, I spent many years in public school. ::)
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Teacher's pet, no doubt. They certainly drove the agenda into you.
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No. Would you vote for him again?
No, I never did.
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For a brief moment, 0bamao lured me with his rhetoric. I sure as hell didn't like McCain. Then, as I started peeling back the layers of the onion that 0bamao is, I quickly decided he wouldn't be the candidate for me. The more I learned, the more I feared for the well-being of this nation. So far, my fears have been well founded. He's a doper. He's pro-abortion and almost seems to me as if he's pro-genocide. He hangs out with terrorists. He was raised by Commies. He has a well hidden past. I could go on ad nauseum, but won't. What bugs me now is that I, too, question his legitimacy and only because of two reasons. 1.) He refuses to bring forth ANY of his past documents and 2.) He's spent an awful lot of money keeping them secret. Hell, it didn't take long to find out John Kerry's college grades, which were worse than GW Bush's. Me, I don't like secrets, especially when it comes to this country's leaders.
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No, I was not ever supportive of Obama.
That being said, when he won the election, I was willing to give him a chance and see if he was worthy of support as he was now the President of the United States and I'm old enough to remember that The President is supposed to receive respect.
He was so eloquent in his speeches of things were going to be different...he was going to see to it, that the two parties would work together for the betterment of the country, etc, etc.....who knew, maybe he could do it! Yeah, all he did was make Congress even more divisive and continually blame Bush for every little thing.
I think I changed my mind during his first State of the Union address, a week or so after he was inaugurated....
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He is narcissistic, cold, and as Thor said, he is anti-life.
He had a personality cult similar to dictators of the past. That alone disqualified him in my eyes, not even counting his intention to socialize the country or the amount of effort he goes through to keep his past secret.
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Lord Zero turned me off from the moment I saw him speak at the Dem Convention in 2004.
Instead of words, I looked at body language and deportment. Words are nothing for a politician - they all have empty meaning, and when people hang their hopes on mere words, well, that tells me how empty those people truly are.
What I saw was unparalleled arrogance. And, yes, evil. I saw nothing that approximated honesty and integrity. As DAT stated, he was a product of the Chicago political machine. As I had lived in Chicagoland some years ago, I KNEW what that meant.
There was absolutely NO CONNECTION between me and Lord Zero - right from the get-go.
I never could understand the level of worship that you libs have for that empty suit. Obama is a travesty and an embarrassment.
And his record, thus far in his questionable "presidency," has borne out my fears.
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I wouldnt even support McCain let alone obama. Both candidates stunk to high heaven.
But Odumbo was the worst.
I didnt like Bush (the 'compassionate' conservative) either, but he was the lesser of 2 evils. (in the first primaries I voted Steve Forbes) But americans are generally a vain lot indeed. If somebody looks prettier or does a better job of selling snake oil - then the media will support him or her and the sheeple will vote him into power.
Btw - 'compassionate' conservative is code for RINO.
Hasnt been anything worth a pot to piss in since Reagan.
People forget .. he (Reagan) ran 3 times before he got elected. And he always had a democrat majority congress he had to deal with. Conservatism is a completely unnatural act for 99% of politicians because it empowers the governed (the voters) over the governors (the government). Its the reason President Washington returned to his home after his term was done when he could have been King. He set the example for all presidents to follow. Until Roosevelt anyways. Its just too easy to get 'drunk' on the power - as obama is finding out now. Its all too human.
But if we simply allow them to shred the constitution as they are doing now (both partys) - then all bets are off. Rome fell the same way. Without the rule of law - what have you got? We are currently in what can be described as a 'soft tyranny'. Guess what follows if we dont stop and reverse it? As sure as communism follows socialism.
Can you guess the diff between communism and socialism?
You didn't vote for McCain, then you voted for Obama by default.
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Lord Zero turned me off from the moment I saw him speak at the Dem Convention in 2004.
Instead of words, I looked at body language and deportment. Words are nothing for a politician - they all have empty meaning, and when people hang their hopes on mere words, well, that tells me how empty those people truly are.
What I saw was unparalleled arrogance. And, yes, evil. I saw nothing that approximated honesty and integrity. As DAT stated, he was a product of the Chicago political machine. As I had lived in Chicagoland some years ago, I KNEW what that meant.
There was absolutely NO CONNECTION between me and Lord Zero - right from the get-go.
I never could understand the level of worship that you libs have for that empty suit. Obama is a travesty and an embarrassment.
And his record, thus far in his questionable "presidency," has borne out my fears.
No way -- I saw a young Senator with a gift. There was no arrogance. That came AFTER his speech at the convention when people stood up and took notice of this young man.
He could have been great, but instead pushed common sense aside and believed the stuff that was written about him. Poor handling of a could-of-been politician. He jumped off the cliff instead and we are watching the free fall.
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For a brief moment, 0bamao lured me with his rhetoric.
If you've ever read The Left Behind series of books.....Obama - when in his campaign mode, and people are cheering, women with adoring expressions and even fainting,.... reminds me of the character of Nicolai...the Anti-Christ. :(
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Remember, unless you lived in Chicago you had no idea who this man was. Remove the words, and watch the speaker. Powerful. The man is good.
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Short answer: NO!
Long answer: Hell No!
Explanation of long answer: No "F"ing way!
Reasoning behind my answers.
He comes from a long line of .................................commies.
His grandparents were...........................................commies.
His parents were ..................................................commies.
His step parent was a ...........................................commie.
His mentors were .................................................commies.
His teachers were ................................................commies.
His friends were ...................................................commies.
His supporters have all been ..................................commies.
His appointees have all been .................................commies.
His actions have all been .......................................commie.
I think I'm beginning to a pattern in there somewhere.
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Ambition is not arrogance.
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Same gift, different message.
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Remember, unless you lived in Chicago you had no idea who this man was. Remove the words, and watch the speaker. Powerful. The man is good.
I recall that a guy names Adolf was a powerful speaker too. Just because he preforms well does not make him a good leader.
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I recall that a guy names Adolf was a powerful speaker too. Just because he preforms well does not make him a good leader.
Yeah....and women wet their panties over him too....but I never read about them saying what some american female reporters said about Obama, "He has a nice package.".....makes you want to repeal wominz right to vote.
Of course then you have the male reporters with the tingling leg syndrome....sheeesh! What a way to select a president.
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Yeah....and women wet their panties over him too....but I never read about them saying what some american female reporters said about Obama, "He has a nice package.".....makes you want to repeal wominz right to vote.
Of course then you have the male reporters with the tingling leg syndrome....sheeesh! What a way to select a president.
Well, like I said earlier, he came on to the American public (particularly journalists) like a cheap ho. You get what you pay for. :fuelfire:
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I recall that a guy names Adolf was a powerful speaker too. Just because he preforms well does not make him a good leader.
I couldn't bear to watch the video clip. I can't even look at this guy; he makes me sick. I've heard he reads a mean teleprompter though.
Sarah Palin does not need a teleprompter. I've seen her wing it. She was my favorite candidate, although I do have a soft spot for John McCain, based on his sacrifice for this country, a far greater sacrifice than most of us will ever be called upon to make. Therefore, any political wiffle waffling aside, I respect the man. Wish he'd retire to his Sedona ranch though. :p
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I recall that a guy names Adolf was a powerful speaker too. Just because he preforms well does not make him a good leader.
I never said that.
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I couldn't bear to watch the video clip. I can't even look at this guy; he makes me sick. I've heard he reads a mean teleprompter though.
Sarah Palin does not need a teleprompter. I've seen her wing it.
My message is lost here. It has nothing to do with the substance of the candidate -- that is developed by their party, or should have been.
I am referring to the process of the making of a great candidate. He skipped critical steps, and because of that he crashed and burned.
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My message is lost here. It has nothing to do with the substance of the candidate -- that is developed by their party, or should have been.
I am referring to the process of the making of a great candidate. He skipped critical steps, and because of that he crashed and burned.
We get the picture.
Rushing into the "Community Center", making a quick speech that gets everyones panties in a wad as you make your way to the golf course does nor prepare you for the Oval office.
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I am referring to the process of the making of a great candidate. He skipped critical steps, and because of that he crashed and burned.
I don't know. He was a great candidate, he won huge. A manchurian candidate who only knows how to run for office knowing his base. He is clueless now that he got the job and thats why he is crashing and burning.
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No way -- I saw a young Senator with a gift. There was no arrogance. That came AFTER his speech at the convention when people stood up and took notice of this young man.
He could have been great, but instead pushed common sense aside and believed the stuff that was written about him. Poor handling of a could-of-been politician. He jumped off the cliff instead and we are watching the free fall.
Your Mileage May Vary - but I saw what I saw. Arrogance was the most prevalent behavior and that, almost instantaneously, turned me off.
I didn't see a gifted speaker - I saw glib, slick behavior.
I didn't latch onto his words, because from my perspective, his words were empty; rang hollow.
I don't think Obama "could have been great" at all - mostly because he doesn't have what it takes. If I'm guilty from seeing that before he was out of his political starting blocks on the national level, hey, guilty as charged. :whatever:
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You didn't vote for McCain, then you voted for Obama by default.
Nope. I voted for Palin. If it wasnt for her I probably would have stayed home. Made me sick how the democrats and the rino repuke leadership in the northeast nominated McCain even before I got a chance to vote here in the south ...
I even made a Palin/McCain bumper sticker. Palin on the top. Thats how convoluted the whole thing was to me.
But I knew about Obamas record and his intentions long before he beat the Hildebeast. I even posted youtube vids all over the place. But ... people who want to be fooled are easily fooled ... as was my own mother.
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I had the "pleasure" of voting against him twice, for U.S. Senate in 2004 and President in 2008. Neither time was I particularly enamored of the Republican candidate, Alan Keyes in '04 and McCain in '08.
I was just never impressed with his Obama's political beliefs. He seemed like a pretty dynamic speaker but an empty suit politically. He's proven me correct.
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The race to the finish ...
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No.
Next!
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I don't know. He was a great candidate, he won huge. A manchurian candidate who only knows how to run for office knowing his base. He is clueless now that he got the job and thats why he is crashing and burning.
He's crashing because he's a narcissist. People are a supply to him, like air, nothing more. Narcs always have the next victim(s) picked out, and move on before you realize they're compulsive liars- before their bullshit catches up to them. Obutthead pushed too hard and too fast; he broke his supply lines. The only time a narc panics is when they can't run.
But don't count him out yet- narcs always find new sources. He will pull something out of his ass, and move on to wow the world (via the UN?)
Holder seemingly clarified his message by noting the alarming rise in the number of “homegrown terrorists,†meaning “Americans who are more than willing to attack and kill their fellow citizensâ€:
The threat has changed from simply worrying about foreigners coming here, to worrying about people in the United States, American citizens—raised here, born here, and who for whatever reason, have decided that they are going to become radicalized and take up arms against the nation in which they were born.
Meanwhile, back at the moonbat cave- "Incompitano" is working 24/7, 364 days a year....
CNS News reports that at a conference devoted to “environmental justiceâ€, Secretary Napolitano announced that the Department of Homeland Security would be creating the “Climate Change and Adaptation Task Force.†Napolitano explained that the task force was charged with “identifying and assessing the impact that climate change could have on the missions and operations of the Department of Homeland Security. No…really.
And, not to be up-stooged...
When ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer asked James Clapper -- the current Director of National Intelligence -- about the arrest of twelve terror suspects in London, Clapper responded with stunned silence. Pressed by Sawyer, he admitted he simply hadn't heard of the matter.
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Would you have ever supported Obama? ....I'm to old to hold up my end of the rail...but I would have been more than happy to help with the tar and feathering.
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No. Would you vote for him again?
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KC
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No. When the campaign was off and running I went to his website. It was FILLED with spending. Lots and lots and LOTS of spending. I posted a bunch of that crap on another website where one of the members was going to vote for O'bama. I told him at that time .... You can't afford this man. I can't afford this man. The NATION can't afford this man.
It was all right there on his website. There was Billions and Billions of dollars being 'spent' on the website. I was shocked when he was elected. I couldn't believe it. I thought "The polls are wrong, there's no way this guy is going to win. People are not that stupid." I was wrong and the polls were right. One of the things I highlighted about his spending was;
He wanted to spend money to send medical professionals to the homes of low income pregnant women. Sounds great but think about that for a second. I don't get 'in home care' and I have insurance. Why in the HELL would we pay to have Dr's and nurses go to peoples homes?! It would be cheaper to buy them a damn car!
No, I would never have voted for O'bama. I can't believe anyone else who works for a living would have either. He was elected because he is black. That is the ultimate in racism but the left would never admit it.
KC