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Title: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 24, 2010, 07:01:28 AM
Bloomberg and the ground zero mosque.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/highly-improper-nyc-mayor-bloombergs-office-helped-ground-zero-mosque-project-gain-city-approval.html
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 24, 2010, 11:28:52 AM
In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/24/e-mails-nyc-pushes-mosque-near-ground-zero/?test=latestnews

Putting link only since it is written by AP.

This is what New Yorkers get when they vote a worthless statists, Michael Bloomberg.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 24, 2010, 11:37:51 AM
If you don't like AP....


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/highly-improper-nyc-mayor-bloombergs-office-helped-ground-zero-mosque-project-gain-city-approval.html
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: cavegal on December 24, 2010, 11:43:46 AM
Not surprising his name has been involved from the get go.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 24, 2010, 11:55:57 AM
Not surprising his name has been involved from the get go.

Never liked Michael Bloomberg. Politics aside, he gives me a cold feeling. He does not look friendly.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: true_blood on December 24, 2010, 11:56:29 AM
Funny, I was thinking about the GZ mosque the other day and wondered what was going on with the building for the religion of hate.
And now, this thread shows up. It will be a very sad day in America if they build this mosque. It should not be done. And Doomberg, you should be ashamed of yourself, you little piece of work. :argh: :argh:
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: compaqxp on December 24, 2010, 11:57:38 AM
I don't see the big deal, they'll likely end up building it anyway. They might as well.

How far away would be far enough? (No sarcastic/stupid responses please)
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on December 24, 2010, 11:58:36 AM
New York City is filled with liberal Jews. Maybe a visit to Auschwitz would wake them up.

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Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: txradioguy on December 24, 2010, 12:01:20 PM
I don't see the big deal, they'll likely end up building it anyway.

Not if enough people with common sense...which is the MAJORITY of NYC rise up and say no.


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They might as well.

Why?

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How far away would be far enough? (No sarcastic/stupid responses please)

How about NOWHERE within the 5 boroughs.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on December 24, 2010, 12:06:31 PM
Not if enough people with common sense...which is the MAJORITY of NYC rise up and say no.


Why?

How about NOWHERE within the 5 boroughs.

H5

Agreed.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 24, 2010, 12:08:33 PM
Not if enough people with common sense...which is the MAJORITY of NYC rise up and say no.


Why?

How about NOWHERE within the 5 boroughs.

There are already plenty of mosques in New York. They are mostly in areas where there are Muslims. The area around where the World Trade Center stood does not have any Muslims. I think this is done out of spite.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: txradioguy on December 24, 2010, 12:13:24 PM
There are already plenty of mosques in New York. They are mostly in areas where there are Muslims. The area around where the World Trade Center stood does not have any Muslims. I think this is done out of spite.

It's a victory Mosque plain and simple.  Muslims build temples on top of conquered land.

The guy behind the project is an influential mover and shaker in the push to have all countries no matter what their religious background is...to adopt Sharia law.

Nothing good will come of this Mosque being built.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 24, 2010, 12:15:18 PM
It's a victory Mosque plain and simple.  Muslims build temples on top of conquered land.

The guy behind the project is an influential mover and shaker in the push to have all countries no matter what their religious background is...to adopt Sharia law.

Nothing good will come of this Mosque being built.

Exactly! I don't like it one bit.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: true_blood on December 24, 2010, 12:17:38 PM
There are already plenty of mosques in New York. They are mostly in areas where there are Muslims. The area around where the World Trade Center stood does not have any Muslims. I think this is done out of spite.
It is a VICTORY mosque and it is done for victory.
No to this mosque. And to Doomberg as well.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: NHSparky on December 24, 2010, 02:59:39 PM
I don't see the big deal, they'll likely end up building it anyway. They might as well.

How far away would be far enough? (No sarcastic/stupid responses please)

How about more than a block away from the WTC?  The sole reason this mosque is being built in the former shadow of the WTC is a great big "**** you" to the victims and families of 9/11.  They could build it several blocks away for less money and have it open earlier, but that's not the intent, now is it?

Tell ya what, how would you feel about an Enola Gay exhibit a block from where the Hiroshima bomb went off?
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 24, 2010, 03:05:51 PM
I don't see the big deal, they'll likely end up building it anyway. They might as well.

How far away would be far enough? (No sarcastic/stupid responses please)

Why don't you learn something about Muslims and Islamic history. Then maybe you'd object to another mosque being built anywhere in the US of A.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Attero Dominatus on December 24, 2010, 04:09:58 PM
I don't see the big deal, they'll likely end up building it anyway. They might as well.

How far away would be far enough? (No sarcastic/stupid responses please)

25,000 AU would be far enough.

How would you feel if a monument to Adolf Hitler was built right next to Auschwitz? A monument to the Bolsheviks built next to where the Tzars were murdered? A Japanese War Memorial next to the USS Arizona?
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: true_blood on December 24, 2010, 06:48:10 PM
I don't see the big deal, they'll likely end up building it anyway. They might as well.
How far away would be far enough? (No sarcastic/stupid responses please)
Of course you don't see the big deal. You do know that they were mooselims that attacked us on 9/11/2001, right?
As to how far away? I wouldn't mind if they built it in another country. :wink:
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Rainbow Rising on December 25, 2010, 12:24:54 AM
The fix was in from the getgo. Bloomberg is such an imperious little prick.   :argh:
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on December 25, 2010, 12:43:52 AM
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Quote from: compaqxp on December 24, 2010, 12:57:38 pm
I don't see the big deal, they'll likely end up building it anyway. They might as well.

This is the big deal.


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Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: ReaganForRushmore on December 25, 2010, 09:07:04 AM
I don't see the big deal, they'll likely end up building it anyway. They might as well.

How far away would be far enough? (No sarcastic/stupid responses please)

That is because your soul is void of love and compassion for all things dear and sacred, particularly to those individuals who lost, or currently losing loved ones because of radical Islam(thank you first responders). No, you are an unloving and uncaring individual who could care less about events or circumstances surrounding this event. I'd say I pity you, but the words are too little to describe such a vapid and callous person that you are.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Revolution on December 25, 2010, 12:33:39 PM
Made a post about this from the New York Post about a day and a half ago in the other mosque thread. Ya stole my thunder, JR. :p

This is the big deal.


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Very sorry to hear about that, CM. I never knew until now... :bawl:
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: true_blood on December 25, 2010, 04:49:34 PM
This is the big deal.
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Sorry to hear about this CM.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on December 25, 2010, 08:38:11 PM
Made a post about this from the New York Post about a day and a half ago in the other mosque thread. Ya stole my thunder, JR. :p

Very sorry to hear about that, CM. I never knew until now... :bawl:

Never even had a body to bury. Like many, there wasn't even an artifact or piece of clothing to bury.

On 9-10 I was a Patriot.

On 9-11 I became a Fanatic.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Revolution on December 25, 2010, 08:45:25 PM
That's both tragic, and a beautiful quote. I may sig that quote of yours. I also became a fanatic. Hate may be a powerful word/thing, but it courses through my veins every time I hear of killings overseas by the radical bastards. Like today they target 20 something innocent people in Afghanistan. They need to be wiped off the planet. Period. I'm with you in that sentiment.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on December 25, 2010, 08:57:34 PM
That's both tragic, and a beautiful quote. I may sig that quote of yours. I also became a fanatic. Hate may be a powerful word/thing, but it courses through my veins every time I hear of killings overseas by the radical bastards. Like today they target 20 something innocent people in Afghanistan. They need to be wiped off the planet. Period. I'm with you in that sentiment.

Hate is'nt a bad thing. It was our hatred of the Axis in WWII that led us to victory.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: longview on December 25, 2010, 10:56:29 PM
I'm so sorry to hear about your aunt, too, CM.  I can't imagine what that day was like for those who had loved ones there.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Rainbow Rising on December 25, 2010, 11:30:10 PM
I am so sorry to hear about your aunt, ColonialMarine.

Hate is'nt a bad thing. It was our hatred of the Axis in WWII that led us to victory.

True. We didn't sit around worrying about "reaching out" to the Axis powers, or trying to "understand the roots of their anger." We just did what needed to be done: we defeated them.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Chris_ on December 26, 2010, 03:49:48 AM
This is the big deal.


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I know it doesn't count for much, but your aunt has whatever prayers I can offer.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 26, 2010, 12:27:03 PM
This is the big deal.


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Sorry to hear about your aunt's passing on 9/11. I extend my deepest and utmost condolences to your family. 9/11 is really a tragic and sad event for America and the world.  :( :bawl:
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Godot showed up on December 26, 2010, 12:31:22 PM
Hate is'nt a bad thing. It was our hatred of the Axis in WWII that led us to victory.

You said it! Sometimes hatred IS the appropriate response. I hate the Islamic enemy--and Islam the political doctrine--with a passion and, not only would I never deny it, I consider it entirely normal.

H5! I seldom see, even among conservatives, these common sense points made. Would you also agree that precision bombing has lost us the demoralizing/terror effect (really, there's no other word) that far less precise strategic bombing wrought on the German population in WWII? If the Moslem civilian populations of our enemies suffered as the Germans did in WWII...this war might be over much mroe quickly.

IMO, there's such a thing as too much civilization, and maybe too much technology, or at least cases where that technology is a drawback, and not a help.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 26, 2010, 12:35:18 PM
You said it! Sometimes hatred IS the appropriate response. I hate the Islamic enemy--and Islam the political doctrine--with a passion and, not only would I never deny it, I consider it entirely normal.

H5! I seldom see, even among conservatives, these common sense points made. Would you also agree that precision bombing has lost us the demoralizing/terror effect (really, there's no other word) that far less precise strategic bombing wrought on the German population in WWII? If the Moslem civilian populations of our enemies suffered as the Germans did in WWII...this war might be over much mroe quickly.

IMO, there's such a thing as too much civilization, and maybe too much technology, or at least cases where that technology is a drawback, and not a help.

Some people are just too forgiving.

You are right, too much technology is not a good thing. I think people are becoming way too dependent with technology. I think modern society in general is not good for mental health.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Attero Dominatus on December 26, 2010, 06:58:11 PM
I think people are becoming way too dependent with technology.

I agree. Western society depends almost entirely on computers and a powerful enough cyber attack (something China could do) or EMP (something terrorists could do with a freighter, a SCUD and a nuclear warhead) could send us back to the stone age.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Revolution on December 26, 2010, 06:59:57 PM
I'm not that military savvy in terms of knowledge, but you really think terrorists could launch an EMP burst that devastating on us??
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: thundley4 on December 26, 2010, 07:12:01 PM
I'm not that military savvy in terms of knowledge, but you really think terrorists could launch an EMP burst that devastating on us??

Remember the power outage that took out most of the northeast a few years ago? The one that was blamed on one line going down in Ohio or somewhere. 
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: dandi on December 26, 2010, 07:42:31 PM
I don't see the big deal, they'll likely end up building it anyway. They might as well.

That's because you are fatally ignorant about the threat that faces our country and our civilization.

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How far away would be far enough? (No sarcastic/stupid responses please)

**** you.  That's how far, leftist filth.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Revolution on December 26, 2010, 10:48:41 PM
Remember the power outage that took out most of the northeast a few years ago? The one that was blamed on one line going down in Ohio or somewhere. 

It rings a tiny bell. I'll have to look it up when I get the chance, but if an EMP  burst took out that much power, they're more powerful than I had initially thought.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: thundley4 on December 27, 2010, 08:06:38 AM
It rings a tiny bell. I'll have to look it up when I get the chance, but if an EMP  burst took out that much power, they're more powerful than I had initially thought.

That wasn't caused by an EMP burst, just a cascade effect.  However, think about what a few small targeted attacks could do just to our electrical grid.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: debk on December 27, 2010, 08:23:35 AM
This is the big deal.


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CM...I am so very sorry to hear about your Aunt. Prayers for you and your family.

Thank you again for your service. You had several reasons for "signing that 'blank check' ", didn't you?

God Bless.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Godot showed up on December 29, 2010, 07:39:12 AM
I don't see the big deal, they'll likely end up building it anyway. They might as well.

How far away would be far enough? (No sarcastic/stupid responses please)

Anywhere north of Houston Street.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: NHSparky on December 29, 2010, 08:32:22 AM
Looks like ol Bloomy might have been better off worrying about how to get the streets cleared after a snowstorm rather than salt in restaurant food and building mosques.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: true_blood on December 29, 2010, 11:42:23 AM
Looks like ol Bloomy might have been better off worrying about how to get the streets cleared after a snowstorm rather than salt in restaurant food and building mosques.
I know, right?
What an joke. :loser:
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 29, 2010, 02:20:06 PM
Looks like ol Bloomy might have been better off worrying about how to get the streets cleared after a snowstorm rather than salt in restaurant food and building mosques.

New York's blizzard is one of the worst on top of a Christmas weekend. They really screwed up and this is really major in the streets and airports.
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: seahorse513 on December 30, 2010, 07:44:32 PM
Personally I am against a building of any organized religion going up near ground zero. I would rather see a park, with a gazebo and a small pond or a small zoo, that everyone can enjoy
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on December 30, 2010, 11:08:48 PM
Personally I am against a building of any organized religion going up near ground zero. I would rather see a park, with a gazebo and a small pond or a small zoo, that everyone can enjoy

The plans call for 2 large lakes where the original twin towers were, gardens, a memorial museum along with the new towers.

Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: true_blood on December 31, 2010, 01:27:54 PM
Personally I am against a building of any organized religion going up near ground zero. I would rather see a park, with a gazebo and a small pond or a small zoo, that everyone can enjoy
Especially a mosque. Are they out of their skulls? :banghead:
Title: Re: In E-Mails, NYC Pushes for Mosque Near Ground Zero
Post by: seahorse513 on December 31, 2010, 04:36:37 PM
The plans call for 2 large lakes where the original twin towers were, gardens, a memorial museum along with the new towers.


to me , that is much more appropriate. I hope they go thru with that