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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on December 20, 2010, 12:02:38 PM
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-20-10 11:54 AM
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Author of pedophilia how-to book arrested
Author of pedophilia how-to book arrested
WINTER HAVEN, Fla. -- Florida sheriff's deputies have arrested on obscenity charges a Colorado man who wrote a guide for pedophiles.
Polk County deputies arrested Phillip Ray Greaves II at his home in Pueblo, Colo., early Monday on a Florida warrant.
Polk Sheriff Grady Judd says his office was able to arrest Greaves on Florida obscenity charges because Greaves sold and mailed his book, "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover's Code of Conduct," to Polk deputies. Judd says Greaves even signed the book.
In November, Greaves garnered national attention because his self-published book for sale on Amazon offered advice to pedophiles on how to make a sexual encounter with a child as safe as possible. The website later removed the book.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/20/1981878/author-of...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x44506
Bluzmann57 (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-20-10 12:00 PM
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2. Good.
Cut his damn cajones off. The asshole needs to do life without parole.
Dogtown (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-20-10 12:14 PM
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7. For what?
Exercising his right to free speech?
I saw nothing in that article indicating he'd harmed a child. I find the concept of the book repulsive, but no more so than the christian bible, and I'd object to any of those authors being maimed for their perverse thinking.
I have to ask: are you vicious enough to perform this vigilante surgery?
These people disgust me.
comtec (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-20-10 12:25 PM
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10. it is the same as if he published a book saying how to rob bank
with a technique that would work.
it's a manual on how to perform a felony. (keeping it strictly technical)
the first amendment allows free speech to the point of public safety.
this publication goes well past that line to HARMING the public.
this is not protected speech, because the intent wasn't informational, but a guide with intent to perform.
The anarchists handbook, while controversial, does not say GO OUT AND DO THIS!
which is why it's distasteful and dubious to many, but still quite legal as it should be.
that is the difference.
i hope that was clear enough for you.
Dogtown (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-20-10 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Apparently
my post wasn't clear enough for you, but thanks for your poor attempt at condescending.
So, are you a castrator also?
superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-20-10 12:40 PM
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13. But that's not what he's being charged with. He's being charged with "obscenity." n/t
ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-20-10 12:01 PM
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3. He should have called his book, "political speech."
He could have said he was protesting age of consent laws with his book.
Political speech is protected by the 1st Amendment, the specter of obscenity is not.
It worked for Alinsky.
stray cat (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-20-10 12:38 PM
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12. Clearly made up charges and really just political persecution
Have you stopped molesting children yet?
superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-20-10 12:41 PM
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14. If he was charged with "incitement," fine, I could see that.
But being charged with "obscenity" is absolute bullshit.
I suppose arresting and convicting Al Capone on tax evasion charges was BS also?
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Maybe if DUmmy Will Pitt had read this book, he'd still have a career as a substitute teacher, instead of his current life as a chronically unemployed drunkard.
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Hide Beck, Palin, and Hannity books, because you don't want them to be seen, or bought, but fight for this guy's "right" to publish a book on how to molest kids.
Just who in the **** ARE these people within our borders? :censored:
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What about a book about finding, stalking, and killing leftist DUchebags safely? Of course, this is only information so no innocent right leaning bystanders are hurt. It's a public service "How To" book.
Bet the DUmp would have a different viewpoint.
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Who continues to hang out in this forum with these degenerate oxygen-stealers? I'd run screaming from any website that had people like this on it. "What's the big deal? Free speech!"
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Coming out in droves to defend one of their own is all this is.
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Coming out in droves to defend one of their own is all this is.
There should be a banner at the top of the DUmp that says "Democratic Underground supports Pedophiles!!!!"
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The DU made me rethink my opinions on mass suicides. I wish most of them would just go ahead and jump. They are worthless.
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Do they really need a book? Don't they do a good enough job of figuring this stuff out on their own?
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-20-10 12:38 PM
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12. Clearly made up charges and really just political persecution
Nothing "political" about pedophilia, you DUchebag! :bird:
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Wait a second, isn't everything DUmmies stand for "for the children"? How does this ass selling a how-to book for raping children improve their lives?
Also, "obscenity" charges are going to be hard to prove. Wouldn't this guy be able to be charged with sending instructions for felonies across state lines, and have it be a federal case?
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Nothing "political" about pedophilia, you DUchebag! :bird:
Well, pedos are, by and large, Democratics . . .