Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-19-10 05:17 PMhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x40908
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The 10 Worst States for Retirees
http://finance.yahoo.com/focus-retirement/article/11158...
Per the article, the 10 worst states are:
1. Illinois
2. California
3. New York
4. Rhode Island
5. New Jersey
6. Ohio
7. Wisconsin
8. Massachusetts
9. Connecticut
10. Nevada
The list, with Illinois leading the pack, comes from website TopRetirements.com. According to John Brady, president of TopRetirements.com, the 10 states earn this dubious distinction largely because of three factors: fiscal health, taxation, climate.
As for fiscal health, six of the 10 worst states for retirees on TopRetirements.com's list were among those just identified by a Pew Center for States report as being in "fiscal peril."
The report, "Beyond California: States in Fiscal Peril," showed that "some of the same pressures that have pushed California toward economic disaster are wreaking havoc in a number of other states, with potentially damaging consequences for the entire country."
Of note, TopRetirements.com's Brady suggested that retirees and would-be retirees might want to avoid states in fiscal peril because these locales might be expected to face decreasing services and increasing taxation.
dkf (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-19-10 05:19 PM
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2. The states in the worst shape are blue states.
That can't be good.
Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-19-10 05:34 PM
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13. Probably because we're paying all that Red State Welfare.
stray cat (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-19-10 05:20 PM
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3. The south comes out ahead for retirees and the east coast not so much
Too expensive!
Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-19-10 07:32 PM
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26. Yeah, the best places do tend to be more expensive. Hardly news, that. -nt
tularetom (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-19-10 05:28 PM
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8. Yes, people should retire in places like Arizona
Where they can get refused for needed operations or transplants because they don't have the financial means or adequate insurance to pay for it.
I call bullshit on that list.
Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-19-10 05:31 PM
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9. Yeah, it looks like RW think tank horseshit to me. eom
frazzled (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-19-10 05:31 PM
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10. These lists are usually not worth the paper they're printed on
If it were me, I'd rather be a retiree in parts of New York, Illinois, or California: at least there is some culture there, which is really sustaining. I'd rather have access to museums, theater, and music in my old age than some abstract set of financial indices....
frazzled (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-19-10 05:31 PM
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10. These lists are usually not worth the paper they're printed on
If it were me, I'd rather be a retiree in parts of New York, Illinois, or California: at least there is some culture there, which is really sustaining. I'd rather have access to museums, theater, and music in my old age than some abstract set of financial indices....
I'd retire in Montana or Wyoming. States nobody ever talks about. That way I'll be left alone.
Hmm...what do most of these states have in common??
No problems with Idaho. I'd consider that state too.
Yeah, art and culture! That's what I base my retirement opinions on! Things like Jesus covered in ants, gay pride parades where assless chaps are considered the latest fashion statement of the day, or the abortion capital of the world!!!! Sounds like retirement heaven!
You betcha! I'd rather live within the top 10 crime cities in America! Never mind the fact that criminals pick on the elderly since they can't defend themselves do to the nanny state liberal gun control laws!
You betcha LA, SF, Detroit, Chicago, and NY City! That's where I want to die! Hell, my kids would probably have trouble stealin' back my corpse!
ETA:
Ya got sumpin' against Idaho there Bubba, sorry, Bubbette? Montana is quickly becoming Kalifornicatin's retirement village, and they're bringin' their politics with 'em! We try like hell to run 'em out after a good winter!
I'd retire in Montana or Wyoming. States nobody ever talks about. That way I'll be left alone.
You know that after the dimwits completely bankrupt or otherwise screw up their own state beyond repair, just pack up and move to a red state so that they can start the process all over again. A bit like a disease that consumes the host.
That's what happened to Vermont, as Crockspot will attest to. All of the lefties fled their liberal shitholes of NYC and Mass., and went to Vermont and NH. They're trying to ruin NH right now.
Upstate NY, where I live, is pretty red right now. We just booted a lefty Congresscritter that was trying to fly under the radar, so to speak, and replaced him with an Airborne Ranger. There's hope for us.
Uh, the liberal mecca of Burlington is saturated with socialist Canadian transplants. No one from MA is moving to VT -- what in the hell does VT have to offer them to make the move? Don't get me wrong, I love VT -- it is one of the prettiest states in the union, but to move there? no way.
NH has infested the state of MA for work for as long as I have been drawing breath. They schlep down here clogging our highways in their uninsured vehicles everyday. Sure you have some MA folks who purchased houses in NH border towns when the market peaked 5 or less years ago, but NH has always been the red headed step cousin of New England. Unless you are heading to the lake for the summer or ski in the winter, you are driving through there to get to Maine only.
There are no active duty bases in New England sufficient for retirees, and it is freakin cold here in the winter. Not a great place for them to retire, I agree.
That's what happened to Vermont, as Crockspot will attest to. All of the lefties fled their liberal shitholes of NYC and Mass., and went to Vermont and NH. They're trying to ruin NH right now.
Yes, NH redeemed itself quite nicely in November.
That's pretty funny up there, the DUmmies twisting themselves around to justify the moonbat states from hell. Culture, music, art? What, do they think we're living in the year 1800? Everything is accessible to everyone, in this day and age. Also, there are air ports.
In one of our arguments about moving the hell away from NY, my husband asked, "well, where????" I picked the first place to come to mind. "North Idaho."
(PS I'll be taking my good habits and voting ways with me, (along with my bad habits), so I won't be ruining any of the red state goodness).
.......Excellent!! DUmmy TwixVoy appreciates your concern!
Everything is accessible to everyone, in this day and age. Also, there are air ports.
.......
No problems with Idaho. I'd consider that state too.If it wasn't for the cold I'd think of stayin in ID....I didn't get to see much of the state this summer coz i couldn't get around....But I do want to do a cruise down the snake before I leave...and get up north to have a visit with allo and toots... :cheersmate:
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
I can smell the bullshit from that post through my monitor.
Tell ya what--where's all the crime and crap in NH coming from?
Who comes up and clogs OUR roads, stores, towns every weekend with their schlepping up to Conway, the lakes region, or just to Seabrook, Salem, and Portsmouth in search of tax-free shopping?
Red-headed stepchild? ****in-A-dittybag--because we tried being liberal for a few years. See what happened in November?
Live free or die, baby!
You know that after the dimwits completely bankrupt or otherwise screw up their own state beyond repair, just pack up and move to a red state so that they can start the process all over again. A bit like a disease that consumes the host.
dkf (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-19-10 05:19 PM:nelson:
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2. The states in the worst shape are blue states.
That can't be good.
This is the view lookin' out my back door.........(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4950/backdoorf.jpg)
You Commie DU bastiges need to just keep your worthless asses put in the hell-holes your idiot policies created and leave Red State 'Murka the Hell alone. We are mostly too polite to shoot your asses for soiling our locales...now. Don't push it.
Wowee - ain't you the lucky one with that as your backyard?!! :cheersmate:
Here are my lawn mowers! Barack, Michelle, Timmy, and Joe!
If they can't do it, "Toots" has to roll out the rider I bought her! I don't do lawns!(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6772/lawnmow.jpg)
Oh, and the last time I was in Portsmouth I couldn't swing a bat without hitting a half dozen Canadians -- y'all attract them for some reason. Fine with me, just keep them up there. They fit in better.
:-)
Here are my lawn mowers! Barack, Michelle, Timmy, and Joe!
If they can't do it, "Toots" has to roll out the rider I bought her! I don't do lawns!(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6772/lawnmow.jpg)
Ya, when I was young and traveled the western states, we went to Stanley, Idaho. I said many times that's where I would retire. It is breathtaking. Ha! Here I am in northern MN which is also beautiful, but no mountain backdrop.Please - I encourage everyone, stay out of Idaho. We must keep it small...
Pics:
http://www.google.com/images?q=stanley+idaho&hl=en&prmd=ivnsm&source=lnms&tbs=isch:1&ei=8_MOTZ3vA6iBnAfN6PCbDg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CBQQ_AU&biw=1271&bih=582
MA residents traveling to NH to commit crime? :lmao:
Good one.
Who's that guy on NH Death Row? Where's he from? Oh, right.
And Leland Eisenberg, you remember him, right? The guy who strapped a "bomb" to his chest and took hostages at Hillary Clinton's office back in 2007? Where was he from, again?
Then there's a few of these little gems:
LINK (http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Mass.+men+charged+with+SNHU+car+breakins&articleId=deeaacc1-5543-4eb5-898b-4a8b45657e1a)
LINK (http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20101218/GJNEWS_01/712189917/0/FRONTPAGE)
LINK (http://www.wmur.com/r/24796549/detail.html)
Then there was the asshole who was arrested up in Concord after murdering an entire family down in Mass a few months back. 'Mebba him?
Want me to keep going?
Didn't go to the links because if you have to reach back YEARS to pick out a MA resident from your criminal system list then...... come on, don't make me say it.
:yawn:
Yes you were. But gee...stay out, even people who value the things you value? I can see why you don't want DUmmies running amok there, but Cavers? Really?Oh please, come to visit - spend your money.