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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Vagabond on December 18, 2010, 04:34:16 PM
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Straight Male DUmpmonkie cries as America as weakned. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x34955)
Change Happens (968 posts) Sat Dec-18-10 03:15 PM
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Watching the vote on DADT, in tears...
I am a 45 year old straight man...I am thrilled for the people who were discriminated against, I am thrilled the progressive majority (and others) decided to bring about PROGRESS.
May God bless President Obama and our leadership...
What you call progress is needless destruction. Leftists hate America and the military, I would wonder at your tears of joy if I didn't already know why you cheer for this.
SharonRB (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-18-10 03:23 PM
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3. I'm watching too
It's a historic day and puts us in line with the rest of the developed world.
The rest of the developed world? A collected pack of fools who, outside of the UK, have armed forces that would be in trouble against a troop of determined boy scouts. Is that what you want, an armed forces that are so weak that you have no choice but to acceed to the demands of whatever barbarian happens to show up at your gates this week?
yellerpup (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-18-10 03:24 PM
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4. It's a start!
I'm with you 100%, tears and all. Off to Greatest Page for you! & Rec.
Another Dummie "man" I see.
barbtries (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-18-10 03:25 PM
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5. me too
love your screen name. it happens today!
Tears of joy. More proof that what is good for the DUmmies is bad for America.
Control-Z (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-18-10 03:30 PM
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7. Straight female here.
So moved I've posted on my facebook page - something I seldom even sign on to read.
It feels like all of DU is watching this vote together today. What a great day.
The only reason I don't want you to see the ultimate outcome of what your side has done is that it will happen to my family as well. It's a damn shame what has been done.
Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-18-10 03:33 PM
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8. me too- what a long time coming.
So glad it's finally been done away with.
Yes you will get what you want. An officer corp that in a generation or so is rabidly pro-gay. A military that is even more hamstrung and tied up on bullshit that has jack nothing to do with winning a war than it is now.
polmaven (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-18-10 03:45 PM
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10. iI'm there with you..
I am a 60 year old straight woman, and am absolutely thrilled that one more discriminatory barrier has been eliminated in this country! Congratulaqtions to all those who have been pushing for this! IT IS DONE!!!!!!
Yes, screw things like a safe blood supply for our troops. What is truly important is that you got a political victory that will weaken our military.
me b zola (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-18-10 03:58 PM
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13. Yes
When I made my numerous calls to my congress critters about repealing DADT, I told them that I wasn't gay, I didn't have a dog in the fight other than the belief that all of our service members deserved to be treated with respect and dignity. They laced up their boots every damn day for their country, the least that we could do for them is to acknowledge their existence and except & respect them for who they were.
Yes, leftist, you did have a dog in this fight. You would see an America prostrated before her enemies. You are one step closer. Congratulations.
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-18-10 03:24 PM
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4. It's a start! I'm with you 100%, tears and all. Off to Greatest Page for you! & Rec.
I'm in tears myself. Never before have we had such an incompetent imposter in the White House.
It is a sad day for America. Actually, the sad day was when the people elected a Barack Hussein Obama.
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Letters from namby pamby land.
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Change Happens (968 posts) Sat Dec-18-10 03:15 PM
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Watching the vote on DADT, in tears...
I am a 45 year old straight man...I am thrilled for the people who were discriminated against, I am thrilled the progressive majority (and others) decided to bring about PROGRESS.
May God bless President Obama and our leadership...
Show me where serving in the Armed Forces is a right. You can only be discriminated against if something guaranteed you as a right is denied.
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Watching the vote on DADT, in tears...
I am a 45 year old straight man......I don't believe you.
They're 65 pu$$ies in the senate that won't ever have to serve with the limp wristed queers and chained wallet lesbians.
My 15 year old that has looked forward to serving in the Marines someday says, "That's it! I ain't going."
We'll have to wait and see how all this shakes out.
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Watching the vote on DADT, in tears...
I am a 45 year old straight man......I don't believe you.
They're 65 pu$$ies in the senate that won't ever have to serve with the limp wristed queers and chained wallet lesbians.
My 15 year old that has looked forward to serving in the Marines someday says, "That's it! I ain't going."
We'll have to wait and see how all this shakes out.
Six generations of my family have fought for my country and what they believed in. What they believed was woth fighting and killing and dying for. Because of this act, I will be discouraging my children from following. I wonder how many more parents and teenager are now looking at this and saying it just isn't worth it.
A large portion of America hasn't sent a family member into the military in over a generation.
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Now that gays can serve how about us fat people?
The military discriminates against those of us who are overweight.
:mental:
The whole reason that we don't want open homosexuals in the military is because people are forced to live in very close quarters. There is a reason that women get their own bathrooms so that they don't have to deal with being ogled by horny guys. Now we are going to force straight guys to shower with openly gay guys. I bet you anything the first person to make a sexual harassment case against an openly gay soldier will be cast as a homophobic, racist, and whatever name they will call him.
:banghead:
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Now that gays can serve how about us fat people?
The military discriminates against those of us who are overweight.
How about the elderly, and those confined to a wheelchair? Those conditions aren't their fault, and maybe they want to serve, too.
What about dead people? If they can vote in Cook County, they should be able to enlist.
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How about the elderly, and those confined to a wheelchair? Those conditions aren't their fault, and maybe they want to serve, too.
What about dead people? If they can vote in Cook County, they should be able to enlist.
Or what about those of us who don't have perfect eyesight? It's totally unfair that the Army won't let us be pilots.
I should sue the govt for discrimination in 1990 when they said I couldn't be a pilot because I wore glasses.
:mental: :mental:
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Or what about those of us who don't have perfect eyesight? It's totally unfair that the Army won't let us be pilots.
I should sue the govt for discrimination in 1990 when they said I couldn't be a pilot because I wore glasses.
:mental: :mental:
You should have a case under the ADA. :fuelfire:
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You should have a case under the ADA. :fuelfire:
I may be sarcastically saying that stuff but, how long before someone seriously tries this?
How long before someone who just can't do 42 pushups sues for being kicked out?
How long before someone who busts the tape test?
How long before someone who is colorblind?
How long before someone who scored low on the ASVAB gets denied for MI?
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Watching the vote on DADT, in tears...
I am a 45 year old straight man......I don't believe you.
They're 65 pu$$ies in the senate that won't ever have to serve with the limp wristed queers and chained wallet lesbians.
My 15 year old that has looked forward to serving in the Marines someday says, "That's it! I ain't going."
We'll have to wait and see how all this shakes out.
It will not be long until they will be demanding Base housing...Id cards and health care for the "partner" of the week.Its going to get crazy.
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Watching the vote on DADT, in tears...
I am a 45 year old straight man...
Zero bongs
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It will not be long until they will be demanding Base housing...Id cards and health care for the "partner" of the week.Its going to get crazy.
I hadn't thought of that but you are right. They may have to wait until gay marriage is forced though before the DOD has to recognize same sex partners. If a straight couple is shacking up, the civilian partner doesn't get an ID card, px (or bx) privileges, health care, etc. The military partner doesn't get BAQ and food allowances and has to maintain a barracks room.
The next lawsuit I am sure will be recognizing of gay marriage partners by the DOD.
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I would like to know if this is going to allow tons of lawsuits for so called "harassment"? and who's going to determine what does and doesn't constitute harassment? and if people are going to be able to celebrate "gay pride" openly on bases? I've been doing some reading on the Israeli Military because the left always seems to cite them, and it's interesting because our system is all volunteer whereas Israeli's are drafted, so in a way they have to let gay people in, also in doing my reading it seems that Orthodox Jews live in separate but equal quarters because of their stand against homosexuality, also Israel is a small Country, they need all the help they can get. A part of me is on the fence with this issue, I want our Military to decide themselves what is truly best, not some Politician with a political agenda, the Military shouldn't be a social experiment.
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It will not be long until they will be demanding Base housing...Id cards and health care for the "partner" of the week.Its going to get crazy.
Exactly!
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It will not be long until they will be demanding Base housing...Id cards and health care for the "partner" of the week.Its going to get crazy.
Didn't Teh Won already sign an EO giving partners of federal employees benefits?
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Watching the vote on DADT, in tears...
I am a 45 year old straight man
Anyone who is straight, and cares about America, would be near tears seeing what the muslim and his democrats are trying to do.
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Anyone who is straight, and cares about America, would be near tears seeing what the muslim and his democrats are trying to do.
Well said GOBUCKS! :cheersmate:
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Well, at least Gen. James F. Amos, commandant of the Marine Corps, stood his ground on this nonsense. I can't vouch for the other branches.
Gen. James F. Amos, commandant of the Marine Corps, was most critical, warning that integrating openly gay and lesbian troops into combat units "has strong potential for disruption and will no doubt divert leadership attention away from an almost singular focus of preparing units for combat." He cited a study quoted in the Pentagon report that found most Marine combat soldiers are opposed to or concerned about ending the ban.
"I cannot reconcile, nor turn my back, on the negative perceptions held by our Marines who are most engaged in the hard work of day-to-day operations in Afghanistan," Amos said. "We asked for their opinions, and they gave them to us. Their message to me is that the potential exists for disruption to the successful execution of our current combat mission should repeal be implemented at this time."
SOURCE (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/12/post_16.html)
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What's the big deal with DADT? It was put in place by Klintoon so ghays could serve in the military.
Now, libretards want DADT repealed? Why? So ghays can now serve in the military, in pink combat boots?
Bitch, whine, moan, repeat. The liberal "playbook" on an index card. :hammer:
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What's the big deal with DADT? It was put in place by Klintoon so ghays could serve in the military.
Now, libretards want DADT repealed? Why? So ghays can now serve in the military, in pink combat boots?
Bitch, whine, moan, repeat. The liberal "playbook" on an index card. :hammer:
Blue suede.....and long sideburns.
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Watching the vote on DADT, in tears...
I am a 45 year old straight man......I don't believe you.
They're 65 pu$$ies in the senate that won't ever have to serve with the limp wristed queers and chained wallet lesbians.
My 15 year old that has looked forward to serving in the Marines someday says, "That's it! I ain't going."
We'll have to wait and see how all this shakes out.
Well, I fear they are gonna get exactly what they wished for! When all these blow job artists and carpet munchers declare their individuality, there will be hell to pay! It won't be anything violent, it will be more like bein' left alone in the darkness and worryin' what could happen!
I doubt seriously they have even thought how there comrades will react! It could be you will see a mass exodus from the military of these queers! I know from talkn' to the few current and former marines I know, it wouldn't be a good idea to suddenly tell them ya like the way their pecker hangs!
Marines aren't stupid! They know how to work the system without it comin' back to haunt them!
I almost feel sorry for them! Almost!
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I would like to know if this is going to allow tons of lawsuits for so called "harassment"? and who's going to determine what does and doesn't constitute harassment? and if people are going to be able to celebrate "gay pride" openly on bases? I've been doing some reading on the Israeli Military because the left always seems to cite them, and it's interesting because our system is all volunteer whereas Israeli's are drafted, so in a way they have to let gay people in, also in doing my reading it seems that Orthodox Jews live in separate but equal quarters because of their stand against homosexuality, also Israel is a small Country, they need all the help they can get. A part of me is on the fence with this issue, I want our Military to decide themselves what is truly best, not some Politician with a political agenda, the Military shouldn't be a social experiment.
The problem is Bally, they could never put forth their agenda if they left it up to those who serve! They would be excoriated, hands down! They can't leave it up to the majority because they are a minute minority! It would never happen!
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It's a damn shame that, not content with dragging the economy into the gutter, Lord Zer0 is determined to drive the military there as well. :argh: :banghead: I haven't been in the military in 25 years, and no one was ever dumb enough to believe the Armed Forces had no serving gay folks, but there's an enormous psychological difference between showering in front of a bunch of women, one or more who might conceivably be ogling your ass and KNOWING that so and so digs women. It's exactly the same as forcing women to shower with straight men.
Maybe the gay guys should shower with the straight women soldiers and the lesbians with the straight male soldiers. There shouldn't be any hormones floating around that way.
For those idiots who are going to persist in labeling those of us opposed to this move as homophobic, YOU get your ass into the military and serve since you think it's such a great idea. For every DUer who CLAIMS military service, perhaps one in ten is telling the truth.
Shit, not only are a select group of people carrying the load for the rest of us in defending the country; yes I know they volunteered, but now they have to carry Harry Reid's horseshit social agenda.
OTOH, maybe in January the new Congress can stop this dead in its tracks.
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Maybe the gay guys should shower with the straight women soldiers and the lesbians with the straight male soldiers. There shouldn't be any hormones floating around that way.
If the gay women are attractive there will still be hormones from the straight guys, and I'm sure the reverse would be true.
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This is indeed sad, sad, sad freaking news for this country. Chalk this up to yet ANOTHER thing the American people need to remember very vividly when they go to their polling place in '12.
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If the gay women are attractive there will still be hormones from the straight guys, and I'm sure the reverse would be true.
Hmm, I don't think so as far as the gay guys showering with the women but maybe the other CC ladies can join in. There isn't much in the world that's as much of a turn off to me as a guy who prefers other guys. I've known plenty of gay guys, some of them very handsome, but knowing they play on the other team was like a cold shower on my libido.
Perhaps I spoke too hastily re the lesbians showering with the straight guys though. :whistling:
But of course the fact that we even have to worry about this for our troops on top of everything else they are going through.... :fuelfire:
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Hmm, I don't think so as far as the gay guys showering with the women but maybe the other CC ladies can join in. There isn't much in the world that's as much of a turn off to me as a guy who prefers other guys. I've known plenty of gay guys, some of them very handsome, but knowing they play on the other team was like a cold shower on my libido.
Perhaps I spoke too hastily re the lesbians showering with the straight guys though. :whistling:
But of course the fact that we even have to worry about this for our troops on top of everything else they are going through.... :fuelfire:
Just make them all shower together, and post an NCO in the shower with a rifle, and orders to bust a cap in the ass of anybody committing hanky panky.
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Just make them all shower together, and post an NCO in the shower with a rifle, and orders to bust a cap in the ass of anybody committing hanky panky.
:rotf:
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I would like to know if this is going to allow tons of lawsuits for so called "harassment"? and who's going to determine what does and doesn't constitute harassment? and if people are going to be able to celebrate "gay pride" openly on bases? I've been doing some reading on the Israeli Military because the left always seems to cite them, and it's interesting because our system is all volunteer whereas Israeli's are drafted, so in a way they have to let gay people in, also in doing my reading it seems that Orthodox Jews live in separate but equal quarters because of their stand against homosexuality, also Israel is a small Country, they need all the help they can get. A part of me is on the fence with this issue, I want our Military to decide themselves what is truly best, not some Politician with a political agenda, the Military shouldn't be a social experiment.
Yes there will be tons of new harassment cases...EO complaints etc al. In the military it's how the person "feels" as to whether harassment...assault...discrimination has occurred.
It will allow the gays to claim...just as females and minorities have done...to game the system and scare the hell out of folks with the "threat" of a complaint if they don't get promoted certain jobs etc.
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Yes, leftist, you did have a dog in this fight. You would see an America prostrated before her enemies. You are one step closer. Congratulations.
It was a two-fer. It's also another step toward "normalizing" the abnormal (although this can never really be done)--one of the main, overarching initiatives of the homosexual, anti-family agenda.
Regressives oppose all normality, all that is wholesome and decent, because standing for those is also the American way, as much as capitalism and freedom of mobility. And they are always and ever against all that is truly American.
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It was a two-fer. It's also another step toward "normalizing" the abnormal (although this can never really be done)--one of the main, overarching initiatives of the homosexual, anti-family agenda.
Regressives oppose all normality, all that is wholesome and decent, because standing for those is also the American way, as much as capitalism and freedom of mobility. And they are always and ever against all that is truly American.
The worst part is that they couch it in something they would never give their opposition--free speech--and they would deny that from day one.