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Current Events => Economics => Topic started by: BlueStateSaint on December 17, 2010, 04:07:45 AM
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This could easily be in the Economics or Living Off The Grid and Survivalism forums. It the lefties in San Fran are getting it, it's bad. Can't wait to see them try to blame this on President Bush. But, seeing that this is a San Fran Chronicle article, all I can (and will) post is the link to the article.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/15/MN571GQRDL.DTL#ixzz18MWOrHL1
One more reason to stock up the pantry. As Glenn Beck put it, be a shelter instead of a burden.
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We went shopping yesterday. Ouch. Minute Maid orange juice is over $6/gal, not that we bought any. Milk was over $3/gal.
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Is it true that the price of gas and food is not factored into the inflation index numbers that we hear?
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Is it true that the price of gas and food is not factored into the inflation index numbers that we hear?
Sure is. "They" assume that when a food item's price goes up, we'll switch to a different food (i.e. steaks to ground beef), so they don't factor it in. I don't know what their logic is for not including gas.
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Is it true that the price of gas and food is not factored into the inflation index numbers that we hear?
Ghetto cooking is about to rear it's head here.
What is ghetto cooking, well it is high carobs, vegetables, and little meat.
Some of the best meals I have ever eaten were at homes of my friends that lived in a Ghetto area. The base was Ramen noodles or rice and some kind of green and perhaps a bit of meat used as flavoring.
It is difficult for a family of two working parents, or single parents to cook a meal at home for the family after a full day of work.-----Cheaper also to buy prepared meals then to cook at home.
Then the factor that in a rush to get to work, who has the time to make a decent breakfast for the family. Just plunk a gallon of milk on the table, get out the bowls of super expensive cereals loaded with sugar and feed the kids this in fact JUNK food.
Yes food is is at the top of human needs, it and water come ahead of clothing and shelter. Check out the price of rice a staple for 85% + of the world.
When food prices go sky high the first to be hit is the meat industry of all kinds, then the wheat, rice and all grain industry's.
We in America have been moved into the large consumption of meat products. We seem to need loads of animal products.
Quick story, back in the early 1970's the meat--all meat production shut down, on strike for some reason--higher prices--what ever.
I could not get to the military commissary's at that time and walked into a big time grocery store. What a surprising thing, the meat cases were empty, no steaks, hamburger, roasts or even hot dogs or Kalbasa. No meat at all unless in cans and the deli was empty.
People had bought out all the canned tuna and spam, not even one can of potted meat was left. This problem went on for a week or so and someone made a deal with someone else and soon the meat was back on the shelves.
This was just a quickie way back then for the unions to flex their muscles and scare the hell out of the American public.-----
This was California and I do not know if the other states were effected but it made its impression on me.
When the price for flour, rice and other grain products begins to climb, that is the time to get out there and buy a big plastic trash can or 3 and start loading it up. The grains and flour will last years in that container.
See a sale on vegetable oil, get out and buy a few gallons and stash them with the grains in a closet.
Buy one container for dried beans and stock up on canned vegetables. Sale on canned meat, you don't have to like it but you will when you are hungry.
A closed container for dry milk, dried potatoes and dried eggs will help feed one in an emergency.
When one follows the sale ads and does what we use to call hoarding ----a bad thing at the time---- In times of stress with no electricity or other methods we can feed out family's on these things on a small fire pit in the back yard.
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See a sale on vegetable oil, get out and buy a few gallons and stash them with the grains in a closet.
Have you seen the price of vegetable oil recently? I just had to buy some last week and it was about $5 for the store brand and $6-$8 for name brand.
Just use coupons. The last time I went to Albertson's, I was able to get three weeks of food, for three people, for around $75. We still have some of that food left over, but those are foods that we end up piling in our pantry for food storage.
I think we will be making a trip to Albertson's this weekend, only if they have the best deals. I'll take my camera and snap pictures of the things we bought the last time I took pictures. Then I will compare those prices from about a month ago and see how much things have risen.
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99 cent store, Grocery Outlet, here I come.
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Back to "college meal planning"...mac and cheese, ramen, generic hot dogs, and when it's Friday evening, hit the dining hall all-you-can-eat and pig the hell out.
I can hear it at the Chinese place now..."YOU BE HEAH FO HOUR!!!"
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Have you seen the price of vegetable oil recently? I just had to buy some last week and it was about $5 for the store brand and $6-$8 for name brand.
Just use coupons. The last time I went to Albertson's, I was able to get three weeks of food, for three people, for around $75. We still have some of that food left over, but those are foods that we end up piling in our pantry for food storage.
I think we will be making a trip to Albertson's this weekend, only if they have the best deals. I'll take my camera and snap pictures of the things we bought the last time I took pictures. Then I will compare those prices from about a month ago and see how much things have risen.
Good idea but has anyone thought of the prices on the additives.----say soy sauce or Sesame oil, then the bay leaves and Parsley, rosemary, and thyme..
Spices, OH yes we had wars because of spices, how many died to protect the spice trade.???
Keep an eye out on the spices, in times past people were paid a wage in spices.
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Good idea but has anyone thought of the prices on the additives.----say soy sauce or Sesame oil, then the bay leaves and Parsley, rosemary, and thyme..
Spices, OH yes we had wars because of spices, how many died to protect the spice trade.???
Keep an eye out on the spices, in times past people were paid a wage in spices.
I currently have bay leaves and rosemary growing in my yard, and I had thyme and parsley earlier this year.
If you live in a temperate climate, herbs are easy. We might have to sacrifice saffron and cinnamon if the US gets cut off from global trade, but we can take care of the herbs.
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I currently have bay leaves and rosemary growing in my yard, and I had thyme and parsley earlier this year.
If you live in a temperate climate, herbs are easy. We might have to sacrifice saffron and cinnamon if the US gets cut off from global trade, but we can take care of the herbs.
Saffron? That costs about a 1/4 of what gold costs.
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I currently have bay leaves and rosemary growing in my yard, and I had thyme and parsley earlier this year.
If you live in a temperate climate, herbs are easy. We might have to sacrifice saffron and cinnamon if the US gets cut off from global trade, but we can take care of the herbs.
My mom turned me on to rosemary a few years ago. I have a small plant too, and since I eat alot of grilled chicken a little bit finely cut ond rubbed on makes a world of difference. And it smells great.
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I wonder how well food and spice dryers are selling these days. Just curious.
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Good idea but has anyone thought of the prices on the additives.----say soy sauce or Sesame oil, then the bay leaves and Parsley, rosemary, and thyme..
Spices, OH yes we had wars because of spices, how many died to protect the spice trade.???
Keep an eye out on the spices, in times past people were paid a wage in spices.
I get all my spices at the dollar store now. Some times they sell certain ones for 2 for $1. I'd rather spend $1 over the $6 spice in the grocery store.
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Don't tell (Gurn) prices are going up cause he thinks inflation is it 2%. More is on the way. Helicopter Ben will see to it. :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
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I wonder how well food and spice dryers are selling these days. Just curious.
Thanks for the reminder. I need to borrow my boyfriend's dehydrator. The herbs in my garden I am going to harvest and dry. I have mint, basil and dill in the sunroom, and it is ok. CR, I am so jealous of your bay. I don't think our environment is suited for them.
Been hitting the Aldi, when they have their flour and sugar sale. Got 5 lbs of all-purpose flour for 0.49 and 5 lbs of sugar for 0.39. Freezers are chock full at the moment,
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I get all my spices at the dollar store now. Some times they sell certain ones for 2 for $1. I'd rather spend $1 over the $6 spice in the grocery store.
I found some of those huge things of garlic and onion powder/salt and peppercorns at Wally World way cheap. Of course I'll "splurge" on some stuff, but for the basic salt/pepper/garlic/onion stuff, meh.
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Don't tell (Gurn) prices are going up cause he thinks inflation is it 2%. More is on the way. Helicopter Ben will see to it. :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
The truth.
Corn is going higher and higher and corn is in/a by-product of 4,000 items in the grocery store. Gas prices are going up. Cotton is up as well.
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The truth.
Corn is going higher and higher and corn is in/a by-product of 4,000 items in the grocery store. Gas prices are going up. Cotton is up as well.
Yup. I bought any necessary clothing items a few months ago. It is just gonna get worse.
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I can't believe how much the prices have shot up - even on base at the Commissary it is expensive. With three young sons I hit that store 2-3 a week because I always ran out of something, and am just shaking my head at how much it comes to at the register.
Add the price of gas to that and ouch already. Of course none of this is front page material on the main news rags -- GWB still in office the gas alone would lead every newscast ad nauseum.
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I wonder how well food and spice dryers are selling these days. Just curious.
I just got a dehydrator and a grain mill. I am going to the health food store today and get some wheat berries and test the mill to see if I can be successful making bread. If I am I will have 5 gal buckets full of wheat, corn and millet next week! I have 1/4 angus beef, a pig and all the chickens I can fit in my 2 freezers all from the local farmer I know. The animals are born on the farm and fed from the farm. No pesticides and hormones and steroids just like it was 150 years ago. My chickens are giving me 6 eggs a day and I am about to breed my 3 rabbits so let it rain!
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I just got a dehydrator and a grain mill. I am going to the health food store today and get some wheat berries and test the mill to see if I can be successful making bread. If I am I will have 5 gal buckets full of wheat, corn and millet next week! I have 1/4 angus beef, a pig and all the chickens I can fit in my 2 freezers all from the local farmer I know. The animals are born on the farm and fed from the farm. No pesticides and hormones and steroids just like it was 150 years ago. My chickens are giving me 6 eggs a day and I am about to breed my 3 rabbits so let it rain!
Fantastic Cats, but one has to think about brown or black out of electricity to keep the freezers cold. How long can a generater run to keep the freezers going and then the need to find gas to power then if the emergency lasts 3-4 weeks.
We had one hell of an ice storm not that far up north 2 years ago, people were without electricity for 5-6 WEEKS. Sub zero temperatures and the main focus was on staying warm not to save the food in the freezer. When the freezers went down, the people ate the defrosting meats and vegetables but the focus was on staying warm.
There were many shelters set up for people but none for pets or barnyard animals. People were bringing sheep, goats, even cows and horses into their homes to save their lives. For the pet owners there was no way they would leave their dogs and cats to freeze or starve to death while they the owners sat for 2-3 weeks in a shelter.
Sad that some with children stayed at home with their animals and hoped for the best. but, even with the police going door to door begging people to leave, most stayed.
They cooked on outside grills beans and rice or potatoes. They could not bake bread but they could make dumplings to add to the soup pot.
There animals had enough stored of food for a few weeks, the only problem was the horrendous problem of cleaning up the rooms when the temperature rose to the point they could go back in the barn, the chicken coop or what ever.
Some did die granted, those who used brickets in the fireplace, those that just gave up, called the dogs and cats climbed into bed and all froze to death.
Most survived some how.
In a really bad time be it nature or problems of society, the last thing I would do would be to depend on anythin man made, be it a freezer for food or an oil furnace. Alternate ways of survival are needed here.
I have a 50 gallon trash tub full of dried catfood, this will last a few years. If the SHTF in the winter, worse comes to worse we can eat that stuff and survive. Remember cats cannot live on dog food but dogs and humans can survive on cat food.
Sparky and others in this area must remember the run on supermarks when any kind of storm is headed our way. We can tell they Yankees from the transplants just bu checking out their baskets of food.
Transplants will have milk, meat bread and frozen meals in their baskets.
Yankees will have toilet paper and a dozen cans of Chief Boy products. They will invade the tuna section for packaged or canned fish. They will grab flour or Bisquick for the making of dumplings to go in the cans of Campbel soup, condensed or ready to eat. a big bag of pet food, Cans of baked beans, jars of peanut butter and jelly, and a few boxes of Salteens.
Then one sees the younger people lugging out case after case of beer.
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I only keep the freezer full in the winter why didn't they just put the freezers outside? The ice house a few miles down the road sells dry ice and my pond is frozen. I have a generator and 20 gals that I figure will just be started to get water out the well, ya know flust the toilet. I have 8 cords of wood that I heat with. and if all else fails I have 4 cases of mres and a lifetime of ammo. I don't go anywhere without my MSR water filters. I have cases of candles and lantrens with enough fuel to last months and a ton of other surival gear that I could list forever. Heck I can even make hot water with the woodstove. funny you should mention toilet paper I have a closet full. I was a boy scout ya know! I look forward to it! No worries.
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Vesta - You can purchase solar powered generators.
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Vesta - You can purchase solar powered generators.
They're great when the power goes out at night.
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Wesson oil (48 oz) and 5 lbs of Rice for $1.98 ea at Food for less. They are closing out their CW frozen vegetables as well.
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Vesta - You can purchase solar powered generators.
EVIL, I can buy one of them, but what about my family that lives in apartments with no deck or any place to put a generator.
I myself have a back deck to my home and have at times stored over flow refrigerator items out there in the winter.
The problem is that unless one lives in the boonies, there are all kinds of neighbors or strangers on the look out for any kind of stuff they can benefit from in storage sheds or on decks. Only thing I ever lost in this area was 3 cases of Beer covered and chilling for a big game on TV on the back deck.
We could see the tracks in the snow leading to another home but as the family had 2 teenage males we found it better to eat the loss then get the police involved cost was chump change. We just kept an eye on the family, said nothing and a year later they moved. Had they broken into our shed and taken Hubby's power tools, then a neighborhood war would have broken out.
Family that lives in apartments are at the mercy of the Electric Co., heat, hot water, range, refrigerator, when to do then when the power goes out for a week??---Impossible to install a wood or pellet stove in a rented apartment, no way to vent any kind of generator of any kind. Can buy a propain run fireplace, but the tanks are so small they will run out in less then a day when the temperature goes to -3.
BTW I know of one family that had rented a small trailer in the woods and raised Newfoundland dogs. They had a 3 month old baby and when the ice storm hit they were SOOL.
The ice and downed trees on the roads kept them from leaving. They could not leave the dogs alone any way as they were show dogs worth in the thousands. So they brought the dogs in and put the dogs in their bed with the baby, grabbed every kind of tarp they had in the barn, one huge piece was the sail for their boat, placed the tarp over their blankets, cloths and curtains and hunkered in.
They had the Yankee presence to bring into the bed a couple gallons of water and ONE coffee cup. It must have been a nightmare for the family, but it worked until 4 days later power was restored. Major complaint was the SMELL when they were able to get out of the bed, all those days of not being able to change the baby, the parents not wanting to loose any heat by getting out of bed, and the dogs that had to be kept in place to keep the baby warm, ----Yikes. ----
We all have different lives and must plan accordingly, in an emergency in the month of June comes about, jump forward to the next January, the same emergency at that time of years will be far different.,,
In my neck of the woods we carry in our cars and trucks survival gear, perhaps blankets, a can with chocolate bars candles and waterproof matches. Some who boat carry flair guns to alert others to being stranded., or lost.
All situations are different according to the time of year----Can you imagine had 9/11 happend in the dead of winter, this is my most worry some problem with the terrorists, what if they attack us when the weather is subzero and hundreds of thousands have no heat for weeks, the roads are blocked, no trucks with food or water can get in.??
Winter is a nightmare for us who think of the possibility's of how the weather can distroy us. Few of us know how to build an igloo, make snow shoes or hunt for game. Few of us have ever had to scavenge for the necessity's of life.
Picture this, in 1981 or so a blizzard hit Norfork Va. I was working at that time in a hospital and had 4 kids at home the oldest a 12 year old. Who did I and others think of first, our family's. The National guard was called out and we were told none of us could leave the hospital for any reason. ANYONE found on the streets were subject to arrest.
We were forced to stay where we were and wonder what was going on at home. We were fortunate to have power through the storm and the pay phones had lines of staff waiting their turn to check on family.--The hospital kitchen said they were running out of food and we the staff were fed watered down soup. A couple of vending machines were broken into as after our 8 hour shift and into being on call to fill in for the 2nd. shift that could not or would not get to relive us.
We were tired, worried about our own family's and hungry. But we managed to make sure the patients received their Meds and food. Fortunately this lasted but 24/30 hours, I wonder how we would have behaved had this lasted 3 days or more.??
Check out Katrena and what happend in the hospitals and nursing homes in that area.
Today Europe is shut down due to weather and has no way to deal with this event. One can manage to survive if they are at home with careful planning in an event.
Away from work, at school, or traveling, this is another thing. Evil has all her ducks in a row and she is one of the few that may survive.
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Vesta - I rent and have many places to put a solar powered generator. Generators are not as large as they used to be. My grandpa still has an over sized generator from yesteryear. But the newer ones can be put almost anywhere.
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Hmm I seem to recall that the "nutrition bill" that just passed will regulate people growing their own gardens.
Wonder why they would do such a thing.
I would much rather it be that people like Glenn Beck are wrong but, it looks like they are right more and more.
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Gas prices are continuing to climb as well, which will bring the price of everything to rise. :banghead: :banghead:
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Hmm I seem to recall that the "nutrition bill" that just passed will regulate people growing their own gardens.
Wonder why they would do such a thing.
I would much rather it be that people like Glenn Beck are wrong but, it looks like they are right more and more.
A hungry peasant is an obedient peasant.
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A hungry peasant is an obedient peasant.
Yep and for the record that comment was rhetorical :-)
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We do our grocery shopping at Shop Rite and BJ's but we're also doing more shopping at Target since they added their grocery section, we find their prices are actually really good.
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Thanks for the reminder. I need to borrow my boyfriend's dehydrator. The herbs in my garden I am going to harvest and dry. I have mint, basil and dill in the sunroom, and it is ok. CR, I am so jealous of your bay. I don't think our environment is suited for them.
Been hitting the Aldi, when they have their flour and sugar sale. Got 5 lbs of all-purpose flour for 0.49 and 5 lbs of sugar for 0.39. Freezers are chock full at the moment,
Oh I forgot about Aldi's, we shopped there a few times but haven't gone there in a while.
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Saffron? That costs about a 1/4 of what gold costs.
SAFFRON, POWDER, 1 lb. tin
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Price: $1,282.95 ($1,282.95 / tin)
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I've seen a rise in cost again here in central OH. Hard to find milk, even on sale, for less then maybe 2.25...and that's a good sale now. Gas is going up too. I'm grateful I just got the employment offer I did that puts me 15 minutes from home rather then 45. Those gas prices in a Pilot were going to kill the budget. Add to that food prices and... :thatsright:
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I do pretty much the same dinner every year for Christmas Eve, but this year I changed it some, and it should have been less expensive as I switched to just one beef tenderloin - instead of 3 - and a spiral ham. I eliminated 10 pounds of tenderloin!! That alone should have saved me a significant amount of money! Switched from fresh broccoli to canned corn for corn pudding. Had less appetizers. Everything else was the same, including the number of people I cooked for.
I spent more than I did last year!!!
Even Kroger brand milk, which is usually quite a bit cheaper, is up over $3, here. A quart of whipping cream at Kroger's was $5.97!! I bought it at Sam's - got 2 quarts cello wrapped together - for about $4.50.
I'm really starting to watch the grocery ads that come in Sunday's paper. The 3 main groceries here - Kroger, Food City, and Ingles - each have a big multi-page ad. There is such a variance in prices. I hate the thought of going to 3 different stores, but I'm considering it for pantry stuff, freezer, laundry. I've been getting cleaning stuff, paper products, and plastic stuff - baggies, garbage bags, foil - at Dollar Tree and Big Lots...as they are much cheaper than at the grocery. We use plastic garbage bags in the kitchen waste basket. I have bought Glad bags for years. They are up to almost $7 a box!!! Switched to Ruffies at Big Lots back in September when I was moving....half the price for more bags, drawstring, and an odor protector.....and they work just as well.
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I have been testing out the Aldi stuff, because down here, there is a significant difference in price. So far so good. I hate having to go to 2-3 different stores for my shopping, but it is what it is. Fortunately they are close to each other so I don't lose added cost in gas. At the very least, I am stopping at Aldi everyother week, as they have eggs for .49 and a gallon of milk for .99. I don't use canned goods too much, but their vegetables are .29 a can and that ain't bad.
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I have been testing out the Aldi stuff, because down here, there is a significant difference in price. So far so good. I hate having to go to 2-3 different stores for my shopping, but it is what it is. Fortunately they are close to each other so I don't lose added cost in gas. At the very least, I am stopping at Aldi everyother week, as they have eggs for .49 and a gallon of milk for .99. I don't use canned goods too much, but their vegetables are .29 a can and that ain't bad.
We only have one Aldi's and it's a good 20 minutes or more from me. I've only been in there a couple of times, and there wasn't much in there I would be willing to buy, but it's a small store. Walgreen's is bigger than it is!
There's supposed to be one going in, about 5 minutes away, across the street from Kroger's. It will be interesting to see what it's like as it's supposed to be a big store. Wonder if it will do anything to Kroger's pricing?
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Went into Aldi to buy a few snacks for the holiday meal we had a couple nights ago - a 1 lb. bag of roasted pistachios was less than $3. Unbelievably cheap.
We have a sizeable Amish community in our area. When I see Amish in the store, I know that prices are good.
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I have been testing out the Aldi stuff, because down here, there is a significant difference in price. So far so good. I hate having to go to 2-3 different stores for my shopping, but it is what it is. Fortunately they are close to each other so I don't lose added cost in gas. At the very least, I am stopping at Aldi everyother week, as they have eggs for .49 and a gallon of milk for .99. I don't use canned goods too much, but their vegetables are .29 a can and that ain't bad.
I love Aldi's and I've found the quality to be comparable, if not better then some other brands. Even their 'Active' brand for lower fat products is decent. I'll have more time now to get over there so that should help. And yes, their canned goods, rice, pasta sauce(which is comparable to other brands), spaghetti, bread, etc are priced terrific. It's a great store for staple items and buy meat and speciality things at the grocery store! :cheersmate:
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We need an Aldi's here. Market Basket brand stuff sucks, and Hannaford's is way expensive.
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Since they are German-Owned, they have a great selection of stuff you can't find in other places without spending big bucks. Got some great red cabbage, spatzle, gluhwein, and candy.
Their cheese is awesome too!
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Since they are German-Owned, they have a great selection of stuff you can't find in other places without spending big bucks. Got some great red cabbage, spatzle, gluhwein, and candy.
Their cheese is awesome too!
Their Christmas displays take me down memory lane.....
Lebkuchen, Weihnachtstollen, Pfeffernüße, Marzipan....
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Their Christmas displays take me down memory lane.....
Lebkuchen, Weihnachtstollen, Pfeffernüße, Marzipan....
yup.
Hey Eupher. You should check this place out. http://www.germandeli.com/
I am going there tomorrow, but they are primarily an innernets business. They cater to the Military.
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yup.
Hey Eupher. You should check this place out. http://www.germandeli.com/
I am going there tomorrow, but they are primarily an innernets business. They cater to the Military.
Nice! Been awhile since I've seen the Maggi products, and it's really, really hard to beat a cup of Jakob's Kaffee. I can't remember the last time I had Semmelknödel and the Asbach Uralt chocolates......
Thanks for that link!
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Nice! Been awhile since I've seen the Maggi products, and it's really, really hard to beat a cup of Jakob's Kaffee. I can't remember the last time I had Semmelknödel and the Asbach Uralt chocolates......
Thanks for that link!
Any time!
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I think it's time for a couponing thread, I have some online friends who are really into this and post great links, I told hubby I'm going to start going back to it in the new year.
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I think it's time for a couponing thread, I have some online friends who are really into this and post great links, I told hubby I'm going to start going back to it in the new year.
My daughter has been doing the "couponing" thing big time since last spring/summer. She's been saving a lot of money!
I'm kind of doing it, but I've been doing better watching for stuff that I use - pantry stocking stuff like pastas, soups, vegetables, cake mixes, etc - that I can buy on sale.
Most of the coupons are for stuff I don't use. I think where she's really saving the most is on dog food - they have two big labs - and diapers. My cats eat dry Iams, and I never find coupons for it, and I use Tidy Cat non-clumping litter. The clumping stuff goes on sale all the time, but I tried it once, and the little witches wouldn't use the litter boxes! :censored:
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My daughter has been doing the "couponing" thing big time since last spring/summer. She's been saving a lot of money!
I'm kind of doing it, but I've been doing better watching for stuff that I use - pantry stocking stuff like pastas, soups, vegetables, cake mixes, etc - that I can buy on sale.
Most of the coupons are for stuff I don't use. I think where she's really saving the most is on dog food - they have two big labs - and diapers. My cats eat dry Iams, and I never find coupons for it, and I use Tidy Cat non-clumping litter. The clumping stuff goes on sale all the time, but I tried it once, and the little witches wouldn't use the litter boxes! :censored:
I put a thread in the Spa, not sure if it's in the right place, but maybe the links can get us all saving money.
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I put a thread in the Spa, not sure if it's in the right place, but maybe the links can get us all saving money.
Good idea!
I'll get it stickie to the top, so that we can keep it available to read... :cheersmate:
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Can your own meat. It is delicious. Simple, easy, great for burritos, beef & noodles, hot beef sandwichs, etc.
You will need a pressure canner.
I buy chuck roast on sale (it takes about 2 lb per quart). Or in large quantity at Sam's.
Cut in about 1" chunks (leaving on some of the fat)
Put in hot quart jars (do not pack in and do not add any liquid)
Add 1 teaspoon salt
Clean rim of jar and place hot lid, screw shut, put in canner.
Follow pressure canner instructions for amt of water, pressure and amount of time to expel steam.
(I start my canner heating so when I put the jars in the water is hot)
Put top of canner on.
Bring to boil (allow to steam via pressure gauge vent--again use canner instructions)
Place pressure gauge for your elevation and process for 90 minutes. Be sure to check instructions for your canner regarding the gauge setting and adjust heat to accomplish the number of times it should giggling per minute.
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Venison is same except you might want to add some fat and instead of salt use 1 cube beef bullion.
Chicken is also the same except you use salt.
Again DO NOT add any liquid to any of these.
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yup.
Hey Eupher. You should check this place out. http://www.germandeli.com/
I am going there tomorrow, but they are primarily an innernets business. They cater to the Military.
I love that place. Any place I can walk in and pick up a bunch of Sho-ka-kola to keep me awake during finals week is good with me.
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I love that place. Any place I can walk in and pick up a bunch of Sho-ka-kola to keep me awake during finals week is good with me.
I spend a good deal of $$ out there yesterday. Worth every penny. I don't get out that way often enough.
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Price per barrel of oil just went over 92 bucks and climbing. This should hurt us at the supermarkets as well.
They are saying 4 bucks a gallon before summer of this year. :argh: :argh:
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Price per barrel of oil just went over 92 bucks and climbing. This should hurt us at the supermarkets as well.
They are saying 4 bucks a gallon before summer of this year. :argh: :argh:
I had to fill up this morning and it was $3.32 per gallon for the lowest grade :bawl:
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I had to fill up this morning and it was $3.32 per gallon for the lowest grade :bawl:
I feel your pain. I filled up the truck on Saturday. 40 bucks for half a tank. :banghead: :bawl:
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It's getting to the point where there's a 15-20 cent difference in gas stations around here. The cheapest I've seen is a Mapco on the way to work @ 2.81. The most expensive is out by the airport at nearly $3. :(
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In my area, the most expensive are the Exxon stations. One happens to be very near to me and to Lake Texoma. I don't usually go there because the guy is a thief, IMO. Gas prices elsewhere around the area tend to be 5-10¢ less expensive. Murphy's tends to be the cheapest in my area. Murphy's is somehow affiliated with Walmart.
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We got gas(lowest grade) on New Year's Day at Kroger for $2.85. It was $2.88, but we had Kroger points that took .03 off of each gallon.
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In my area, the Price Chopper supermarket chain has an agreement with Sunoco to take 10 cents off a gallon of gas for every $50 the Advantage Card member spends. I've gone as high as 60 cents off a gallon in the past. My car's a Saturn SL sedan, so all I got off was $6 or so, but every little bit helps.
Also, Carl, catsmtrods, and Karin--I heard today that PC is running a canned food special this week. My wife and I need to restock/expand our canned food stocks. It helps that this is a pay week.
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Chris and Deb, I would LOVE 2.81 dollar gas.
We in MA have been at the 3 dollar and over mark for sometime now. :bawl: I think it was 3.19 when I filled up. That was for the mid-grade, which the truck requires. The low grade was over 3 bucks a gallon.
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Kroger has a deal with Shell here, for discount gas. I am getting about $3.00 even for Mid-grade currently
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Kroger has a deal with Shell here, for discount gas. I am getting about $3.00 even for Mid-grade currently
They do here too, I just always forget about Shell. :thatsright:
Do they give points for buying the gas, or is it just for groceries?
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They do here too, I just always forget about Shell. :thatsright:
Do they give points for buying the gas, or is it just for groceries?
You get points for buying groceries, that you can use to get gas. I forget about Shell, because there really isn't one convenient for me, and it seems pretty silly to drive out of your way to get 5 cents off a gallon. That would save me .55.
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You get points for buying groceries, that you can use to get gas. I forget about Shell, because there really isn't one convenient for me, and it seems pretty silly to drive out of your way to get 5 cents off a gallon. That would save me .55.
I know we get points for the groceries, I just didn't know if we also got points for buying gas at Kroger. The one we shop at the most, has the gas pumps so it works out well. I forget about Shell, just because there aren't a whole lot of them around us. Most convenient for us is Pilot, Exxon and a local quick shop. Exxon is expensive here too.
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I paid $2.70 per 9/10 for 87-octane/no ethanol on Sunday.
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Did they remove the dirt and twigs before they let you pump it? :rofl:
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You get points for buying groceries, that you can use to get gas. I forget about Shell, because there really isn't one convenient for me, and it seems pretty silly to drive out of your way to get 5 cents off a gallon. That would save me .55.
I think the Kroger/Shell deal is if you spend $100 a month at Kroger, you get ten cents off on your next fill-up. I never spent that much on food in a month to qualify.
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All the gas stations in town are either $3.07 or $3.08 for regular, and about $.10 more for the midgrade. No place around here offers "premium" anymore.
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Did they remove the dirt and twigs before they let you pump it? :rofl:
Who me? That stuff is always clean as a whistle. I sometimes put 1 gal. of 110-octane Sunoco into a 13/14 full tank, too. That stuff is running about $11/per here right now. It's up roughly $2.50 over the past 18 months.
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I think the Kroger/Shell deal is if you spend $100 a month at Kroger, you get ten cents off on your next fill-up. I never spent that much on food in a month to qualify.
I don't either, but when you get a Kroger card, you get two. Gave one to the boyfriend. :-) When it was convenient I was constantly getting 10 cents off. Now I have moved, and it isn't convenient so much.
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I don't either, but when you get a Kroger card, you get two. Gave one to the boyfriend. :-) When it was convenient I was constantly getting 10 cents off. Now I have moved, and it isn't convenient so much.
We only spent $70 something on Saturday, and then went and got gas. Got .03 off of each gallon.
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We only spent $70 something on Saturday, and then went and got gas. Got .03 off of each gallon.
If I spend maybe $10 more at Price Chopper, my gas discount for this fillup will be 30 cents a gallon.
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If I spend maybe $10 more at Price Chopper, my gas discount for this fillup will be 30 cents a gallon.
Wow!!
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Most of the "discount" stations along the Seacoast region are running $3.019 for a gallon of 87, and the "chain" stores like Cumberland Farms, etc., are going anywhere from $3.059-$3.149 for regular unleaded. Sunoco has 93 octane, but they're charging more for that than diesel, which is going for almost $3.50 a gallon now.
Just filled up the oil tank on Thursday. $3.149 a gallon--almost $600 to fill up. That'll last about two months, maybe less in this weather. And I have the thermostats programmed for 55 at night (10P-5A) and while I'm at work (6A-5P), and 68 at other times.
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Wow!!
They have a 20-gallon top limit on the fillup, and I've made it as high as 60 cents off per gallon--once. I filled up my wife's Corolla with the last one (30 cents off that one).
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Oddly, I'm not seeing food prices jumping up. Friday I was able to get whole beef filet (bagged) for $5.95 lb. The wife picked up whole chickens for .59 lb. Hell we've even been getting Dungeoness crab for $4.95 lb. :drool:
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Oddly, I'm not seeing food prices jumping up. Friday I was able to get whole beef filet (bagged) for $5.95 lb. The wife picked up whole chickens for .59 lb. Hell we've even been getting Dungeoness crab for $4.95 lb. :drool:
I paid $10.99lb for whole beef tenderloin at Sam's, at Christmas. The next week it was 9.99 at Kroger...it had been $14.99 the week before Christmas. :(
What type of store are you finding these kind of prices?
Food City's flyer in yesterday's paper had a big headline...they have permanently lowered the prices on 10,000 items !!
Maybe some chains are figuring its better to make less money and get customers back, than no money because people shop at other stores.
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Chickens here are .89 per pound. A GOOD special on steak would be $3.99-4.99 per pound, and the last ones I got at that rate were terribly gristled. I have a buddy in Fort Worth, that has bought "shares" of cows, out of Mineral Wells, grass fed, treated well, etc. To purchase a various list of cuts, it averages out to $4.00 a pound. That is looking good.
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Chickens here are .89 per pound. A GOOD special on steak would be $3.99-4.99 per pound, and the last ones I got at that rate were terribly gristled. I have a buddy in Fort Worth, that has bought "shares" of cows, out of Mineral Wells, grass fed, treated well, etc. To purchase a various list of cuts, it averages out to $4.00 a pound. That is looking good.
Do they ship?
It has gotten to the point here, where the best place I can buy decent tasting beef - other than the Fresh Market which is unGodly expensive -is Sam's.
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Do they ship?
It has gotten to the point here, where the best place I can buy decent tasting beef - other than the Fresh Market which is unGodly expensive -is Sam's.
I don't think so. Matter of fact, my buddy has already paid a deposit on a 2012 butchering. The dude only slaughters 12 cows per year.
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I assume that everyone has noticed that over the past few years the "scam" on packaged food prices seems to be focused upon making the package quantities slightly smaller while the price remains the same.
I noticed it first with ice cream, when the half-gallon container disappeared, then came coffee, flour, sugar, etc, and even canned goods are now in slightly smaller containers, sold at the same price.
I noticed recently that one supplier of milk was selling it in a "metric" container that when converted, comes out to 10% less than a gallon.......of course at the same price, and difficult to detect unless you read the labels and convert to English volume measurement.
And what the heck happened to the price of coffee?? We typically use Folgers Colombian, which we could normally buy at Price Chopper's on sale for $6.95 a few years ago..........Katrina happened, and the price jumped four dollars a container, supposedly because the vast bulk of the coffee supply was lost in the aftermath. We are now pushing five years since that time, and the price remains unchanged. What happened??
doc
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I assume that everyone has noticed that over the past few years the "scam" on packaged food prices seems to be focused upon making the package quantities slightly smaller while the price remains the same.
I noticed it first with ice cream, when the half-gallon container disappeared, then came coffee, flour, sugar, etc, and even canned goods are now in slightly smaller containers, sold at the same price.
I noticed recently that one supplier of milk was selling it in a "metric" container that when converted, comes out to 10% less than a gallon.......of course at the same price, and difficult to detect unless you read the labels and convert to English volume measurement.
And what the heck happened to the price of coffee?? We typically use Folgers Colombian, which we could normally buy at Price Chopper's on sale for $6.95 a few years ago..........Katrina happened, and the price jumped four dollars a container, supposedly because the vast bulk of the coffee supply was lost in the aftermath. We are now pushing five years since that time, and the price remains unchanged. What happened??
doc
I see coffee at any where from $9.99 to $11.99 for Folgers and Maxwell House. K Mart has one or the other on sale every other week or so from $5.99 to $7.99 . I'm not too picky, I just buy a dark blend of what is on sale, and buy 2-3 cans at a time.
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FYI to those reading this thread...there is a "couponning and savings" thread stickied at the top in The Spa.
Some really good ideas have already been posted, and if anyone has additional information or savings ideas, it would be greatly appreciated if you would add them.
Thanks!!!
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FYI to those reading this thread...there is a "couponning and savings" thread stickied at the top in The Spa.
Some really good ideas have already been posted, and if anyone has additional information or savings ideas, it would be greatly appreciated if you would add them.
Thanks!!!
If I can't get a pedicure at "The Spa", fuggedaboudit.
:-)
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Just filled up on $2.85 gas (reg unl) at Costco. :hyper:
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Deb, the store is Winco. The lefties HATE it because it non-union. :-)
I pick up Folgers Classic in the 2.5 lb cannister for $6.99 at Grocery Outlet, a West Coast chain.
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I assume that everyone has noticed that over the past few years the "scam" on packaged food prices seems to be focused upon making the package quantities slightly smaller while the price remains the same.
I noticed it first with ice cream, when the half-gallon container disappeared, then came coffee, flour, sugar, etc, and even canned goods are now in slightly smaller containers, sold at the same price.
I noticed recently that one supplier of milk was selling it in a "metric" container that when converted, comes out to 10% less than a gallon.......of course at the same price, and difficult to detect unless you read the labels and convert to English volume measurement.
And what the heck happened to the price of coffee?? We typically use Folgers Colombian, which we could normally buy at Price Chopper's on sale for $6.95 a few years ago..........Katrina happened, and the price jumped four dollars a container, supposedly because the vast bulk of the coffee supply was lost in the aftermath. We are now pushing five years since that time, and the price remains unchanged. What happened??
doc
I have indeed noticed that. Folks are paying more and don't seem to realize it.
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Something I had noticed a while back is that they are making toilet paper rolls smaller in width. So much so that they won't stay some types of holders.
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I just drove by the Hess station and though that they would lower their gas price as oil is now lower per barrel than the past week. (Prices at the pump always fluctuate, so I thought I would fill up, while the price per barrel is down.) Price hasn't moved from 3.23 a gallon for mid grade.
High gas prices should do a number on this fragile economy. And not one of our leaders stands up to OPEC. WTF?!