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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on December 15, 2010, 01:30:02 PM
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Very_Boring_Name (99 posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:20 PM
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Why havent we been discussing the fact that Tuesday's school board shooter Clay Duke was a teabagger
In his suicide note he rails against the "government sponsored media." Sounds like he listened to Glenn Beck a little too much.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x15258
EOTE (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:22 PM
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1. Where did you get this information?
I heard him talk about how awful the wealth distribution is in this country, with the top few percent screwing over everyone else. That doesn't sound much like teabagger talk to me. It should be noted that occasionally the left does some zany, violent shit as well.
The left does almost all of the violent shit.
Very_Boring_Name (99 posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:25 PM
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3. His over the top anti-government crap that he spewed in his suicide note sounded very teabagger-ish
also the V for vendetta sign that he painted on the wall, which the teabaggers have been known to use to show us how "anti government" they really are.
EOTE (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:27 PM
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4. We can be "anti government" as well.
We tend to be against the government that protects the wealthy at all costs. The teabaggers are against the government that does things to help poor people. So once again, what did he specifically say that leads you to believe he's a teabagger? Everything I heard from him leads me to believe he either resides on the left or is completely apolitical.
ck4829 (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:24 PM
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2. I really think the guy just wanted to make a weird rant and then off himself
Edited on Wed Dec-15-10 02:26 PM by ck4829
If you've seen the video, then you'll see the first shot is fired close by the guy but misses by a big angle and the second shot he fires is really off any target (Looks like he's shooting at the floor almost), it's like he's not even trying.
Small campfire that will die because the guy was a lefty.
Clay Duke, the man who opened fire on a Florida school board Tuesday, posted a “last testament†on Facebook decrying the wealthy and linking to a slew of progressive sites including theprogressivemind.info and MediaMatters.org.
The chilling Facebook statement, posted under the “About Clay†section, talks about being born poor and how the rich “take turns fleecing usâ€:
My Testament: Some people (the government sponsored media) will say I was evil, a monster (V)… no… I was just born poor in a country where the Wealthy manipulate, use, abuse, and economically enslave 95% of the population. Rich Republicans, Rich Democrats… same-same… rich… they take turns fleecing us… our few dollars… pyramiding the wealth for themselves. The 95%… the us, in US of A, are the neo slaves of the Global South. Our Masters, the Wealthy, do, as they like to us…
In addition to the note, Duke also includes a reference to class warfare:
“There’s class warfare, all right, but its my class, the rich class that’s making war and we’re winningâ€
- Warren Buffet [sic]
And then issues a call to rise up, which seems to be from a poem titled “The Mask of Anarchyâ€:
Rise like lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number.
Shake your chains to earth like dew.
Which in sleep has fallen on you.
Ye are many – they are few.
Besides the writings, Duke also includes an exhaustive list of links under the quote “You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!†The page includes a link dedicated to Wikileaks, another to a progressive 9/11 truther site, and even Media Matters.
weazel zippers (http://weaselzippers.us/2010/12/15/florida-school-board-shooter-a-crazed-tea-partying-wingnut-who-loved-rush-limbaugh-no-wait/)
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Joe Stack, part DUh.
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I don't recall a single time a conservative went off the deep end! Perhaps the Hemorrhoid we recently acquired can enlighten us!
Newbie Troll in dire need of some Preparation H! (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,52603.msg587893.html#msg587893)
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I got a hunski that says the MSM will be running with the tea bagger meme today and tomorrow.
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They've done that twice already in my recent history memory, and been proven stupid. One of them was Stack. Can't remember the other one's name. Do they really want to go down that road again??
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also the V for vendetta sign that he painted on the wall, which the teabaggers have been known to use to show us how "anti government" they really are
Does that work like the bat signal in the sky?
Do us "teabaggers" flock to that symbol? I've never seen that movie, nor have I ever seen that symbol anywhere. Guess you're just grasping at straws again.
You are excused.
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The thread is very very stupid.
EOTE (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:37 PM
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13. You bet.
Edited on Wed Dec-15-10 02:38 PM by EOTE
Quite a number of DUers are quite pissed off that a number of middle and lower class tax payers are going to see their taxes rise while billionaires and millionaires will have theirs slashed.
On edit: I should mention that I'm one of them.
Oh, I thought all you guys were going to get windfalls, that you were going to donate to charity or the government.
Very_Boring_Name (103 posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:31 PM
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9. It matters because real violence is now coming out of the teabagger movement
You don't think that's important?
::)
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I suspect Very_Boring_Mole was just stirring the pot up a bit before getting his pizza delivered.
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They've done that twice already in my recent history memory, and been proven stupid. One of them was Stack. Can't remember the other one's name. Do they really want to go down that road again??
There were claims that the Times Square Bomber was a Tea Party member when the story first broke.
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I want to know what Duke's DUmmie name is
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I want to know what Duke's DUmmie name is
HannahBell ? Or was she the wife that was fired?
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If Duke wasn't a DUmp democrat, it's only because he hadn't found the DUmp online. He had the jargon down pat, even so far as the stupid "Vendetta" business. Too bad he didn't have one of those masks the DUmmies like. The only difference between DUke and the DUmmies is that he actually did what they rant about. A real DUmmy only types and hits "enter".
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:27 PM
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4. We can be "anti government" as well.
We tend to be against the government that protects the wealthy at all costs. The teabaggers are against the government that does things to help poor people. So once again, what did he specifically say that leads you to believe he's a teabagger? Everything I heard from him leads me to believe he either resides on the left or is completely apolitical.
EOTE, you have the intellectually maturity of a 4 year old. But then, you are a liberal.
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Is anyone here really wealthy? Because I would like to know the alchemy of taking gold from those who have none.
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Is anyone here really wealthy? Because I would like to know the alchemy of taking gold from those who have none.
First you should learn to get blood out of a turnip.
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Does that work like the bat signal in the sky?
Do us "teabaggers" flock to that symbol? I've never seen that movie, nor have I ever seen that symbol anywhere. Guess you're just grasping at straws again.
You are excused.
Just to prove how stupid the OP is that symbol is what anarchist use and to a member they are all leftist. No one one the right uses that sign for any reason where violence has occurred because the right doesn't do that kind of shit. This is some left winger that got pissy because his wife supposedly lost her job.
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Another thread on him...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x16287
NYMdaveNYI (446 posts) Wed Dec-15-10 04:19 PM
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(http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/images/avatars/personal/260752.jpg)CLAY DUKE: a Misunderstood Martyr, and a Call to Action
One may nonchalantly look upon the actions of Clay Duke, of Panama City, Florida, and gasp in abhorrence.
In fact, some of your fellow DUers have prejudged the man as a “ drunken loon†and even “freeper,†because of his geographical background.
But with more careful examination, it becomes clear Duke’s real motive.
This sentiment is evident in Duke’s bio section of his Facebook:
"My Testament: Some people (the government sponsored media) will say I was evil, a monster (V)... no... I was just born poor in a country where the Wealthy manipulate, use, abuse, and economically enslave 95% of the population. Rich Republicans, Rich Democrats... same-same... rich... they take turns fleecing us... our few dollars... pyramiding the wealth for themselves. The 95%... the us, in US of A, are the neo slaves of the Global South. Our Masters, the Wealthy, do, as they like to us...â€
He was one of us.
He suffered at the hands of the rich and powerful for too long, and finally could no longer bear the anguish.
It is now that I ask that you look upon the man not as a maniac, not as a drunkard ex-con, not as a rambling lunatic or an attempted murderer, but as a martyr, a symbol of the never ending strife for social justice and equality, a warrior, for our cause. I ask that you see Clay Duke for the man behind the gun.
And as the corporate media moves on to a different, more appealing story, –– Lindsay Lohan’s next rehab trip, perhaps -- and that of Clay Duke is forgotten by our Attention Deficit Disorder-plagued citizenry, I ask that you remember his struggle.
More importantly, I am here to urge you to aid in the fulfillment of the true purpose behind Duke’s martyrdom, which, much like that of Lee Kyung Hae almost a decade ago, was to spark the revolution.
It’s our time.
It’s time to take back our rights.
They’ve got the guns, but we’ve got the numbers.
It’s time to take back our world.
Rest in peace, Clay Duke.
Kick and recommend, for him.
Some "no we don`t condone that" :whatever: comments and then...
Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 05:41 PM
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22. Locking...
"The following are not permitted: Any type of threat against any person, either explicit or implied. Any action intended to harm another person -- physically, mentally, emotionally, or otherwise. A sustained or organized effort to demean, belittle, bully, or ostracize another person. Digging up or posting personal information about any private individual, on DU or elsewhere. Stalking someone across discussion threads or forums. Advocating harm toward any public figure. Advocating violent overthrow of government or violent social change."
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 05:41 PM
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22. Locking...
"The following are not permitted: Any type of threat against any person, either explicit or implied. Any action intended to harm another person -- physically, mentally, emotionally, or otherwise. A sustained or organized effort to demean, belittle, bully, or ostracize another person. Digging up or posting personal information about any private individual, on DU or elsewhere. Stalking someone across discussion threads or forums. Advocating harm toward any public figure. Advocating violent overthrow of government or violent social change."
Half the threads over there should be locked by now.
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Dead_Parrot is a little late to the rodeo with that lock on the thread.
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 05:41 PM
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22. Locking...
"The following are not permitted: Any type of threat against any person, either explicit or implied. Any action intended to harm another person -- physically, mentally, emotionally, or otherwise. A sustained or organized effort to demean, belittle, bully, or ostracize another person. Digging up or posting personal information about any private individual, on DU or elsewhere. Stalking someone across discussion threads or forums. Advocating harm toward any public figure. Advocating violent overthrow of government or violent social change."
He makes it sound like Clay Duke was member of DU.
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Very_Boring_Name (103 posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:31 PM
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9. It matters because real violence is now coming out of the teabagger movement
You don't think that's important?
You scrunt. Stop spreading lies. Your lord zero does enough lying.
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You scrunt. Stop spreading lies. Your lord zero does enough lying.
I'm not so sure that, that poster isn't a troll.
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I'm not so sure that, that poster isn't a troll.
That's what I was thinking.
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http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/florida-school-shooter-largely-influenced-by-liberal-and-socialist-beliefs
FAIL.
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http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/florida-school-shooter-largely-influenced-by-liberal-and-socialist-beliefs
FAIL.
Yeah, he looks like a moonbat from what I'm assuming was his driver's license picture.
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From the Blaze:
The wife of the man who fired shots and held a Florida school board at gunpoint Tuesday told reporters Wednesday that her husband was a “tender†and “gentle giant†who was only doing what was best for his family.
Before the shooter, Clay Duke, took his own life Tuesday as armed security officials tried to break up his hostage-style standoff, his wife, Rebecca, says he was stressed by the economy, frustrated over her losing her teaching job and taking medication regularly. In closing her remarks to the press, Duke‘s widow reiterated her husband’s final statements, condemning the wealthy and urging middle class rebellion.
“We deserve it, as much as what the rich, as he calls it, has (sic). We deserve it as well,†she said.
In addition, Duke’s wife says that what her husband did is likely seen as wrong by society, but she did not personally condemn his actions.
I believe the democrats are personally responsible for this. Obama, Pelosi and the rest of the poor vs rich democrats are directly responsible for inciting this man. DUmmies know deep down that this is true but will never admit it publicly. It is the hight of irresponsibility to do what the democrats have done, especially during this time when the economy is in the shitter. The mentally unstable are more unstable during turbulent times....but I'm pretty sure this is what they want. This has been their plan all along. After all, you can't have socialism without at least half the country envying what the other half has.
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I also want to note, I hold the people in government responsible for this. Not the stupid talk show hosts like Ed, Maddow or Olberman. While words have meaning, people in the private sector can say anything they want (yet can't expect to be free from ridicule or being fired for stupid ass comments), no matter how idiotic it is. It is a different story for people with the power of the government behind them, they should be ashamed of themselves.
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After all, you can't have socialism without at least half the country envying what the other half has.
'Tis true . . . but if the half being envied also has firearms, it ain't gonna happen.
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Proof that Duke was not a conservative:
He fired twice at a man-sized target from 8 feet away and missed both times. No self-respecting conservative would have a pistol and would be that bad a shot.
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Proof that Duke was not a conservative:
He fired twice at a man-sized target from 8 feet away and missed both times. No self-respecting conservative would have a pistol and would be that bad a shot.
Heh, no doubt! If it had been one of us, they'd be scrapin' his brains off the wall behind 'im! I mean hell, at 8 feet I can hit a nickel with my BlackHawk!
I wouldn't recommend shootin' at nickels though. I hit one once and it spun off the target and hit me in the chest! Course I was a little bit younger at the time! Have since grown a little more intelligence! hehe!
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I also want to note, I hold the people in government responsible for this. Not the stupid talk show hosts like Ed, Maddow or Olberman. While words have meaning, people in the private sector can say anything they want (yet can't expect to be free from ridicule or being fired for stupid ass comments), no matter how idiotic it is. It is a different story for people with the power of the government behind them, they should be ashamed of themselves.
Who was the liberal congress critter of the female type that talked about pitchforks recently?
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Who was the liberal congress critter of the female type that talked about pitchforks recently?
Claire McCaskill
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From the Blaze:
I believe the democrats are personally responsible for this. Obama, Pelosi and the rest of the poor vs rich democrats are directly responsible for inciting this man. DUmmies know deep down that this is true but will never admit it publicly. It is the hight of irresponsibility to do what the democrats have done, especially during this time when the economy is in the shitter. The mentally unstable are more unstable during turbulent times....but I'm pretty sure this is what they want. This has been their plan all along. After all, you can't have socialism without at least half the country envying what the other half has.
Sounds like his wife egged him on to do this too. Maybe they should throw her ass behind bars.
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Sounds like his wife egged him on to do this too. Maybe they should throw her ass behind bars.
Maybe the thought of having her unemployed ass barking at him all the time tipped him over the edge.
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If Duke wasn't a DUmp democrat, it's only because he hadn't found the DUmp online. He had the jargon down pat, even so far as the stupid "Vendetta" business. Too bad he didn't have one of those masks the DUmmies like. The only difference between DUke and the DUmmies is that he actually did what they rant about. A real DUmmy only types and hits "enter".
He has a Facebook account that he set up recently. It is possible that he did setup a DU account at the same time.
Clay Duke has a criminal record.
http://www.wjhg.com/news/headlines/School_Board_Shooter_said_to_Have_Been_Suffering_Bi-Polar_Disorder_111968424.html
I notice lately that there have been hostage standoff at school in which the perp commits suicide. Whats up with that?????????? :???:
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Claire McCaskill
Here's Hot Air's coverage via the Blaze, I think........
Pukes & Pitchforks! (http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/06/video-dem-calls-for-pitchforks-if-gop-extends-current-tax-rates-in-deal/)
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Proof that Duke was not a conservative:
He fired twice at a man-sized target from 8 feet away and missed both times. No self-respecting conservative would have a pistol and would be that bad a shot.
I know. Hell, my three-year-old daughter--who, obviously, has never fired a handgun--could hit a man-sized target at that range.
And, AR . . . I'm not too sure I'd continue to tell that story! Something you'd see on America's Funniest Home Videos . . .
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I know. Hell, my three-year-old daughter--who, obviously, has never fired a handgun--could hit a man-sized target at that range.
And, AR . . . I'm not too sure I'd continue to tell that story! Something you'd see on America's Funniest Home Videos . . .
hehehehehe! Yeah, it was pretty stooooopid!
I was pretty young! The thought it would ricochet never occurred to me! I started out at about 20 yards. After every miss I just kept gettin' closer! Well, not the smartest thing I have ever done, but likely not the dumbest either! lol!