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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: CactusCarlos on December 15, 2010, 12:28:18 PM
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http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/national/strip-club-owner-posts-%E2%80%9Cno-negroes-allowed%E2%80%9D-sign
ABBOTSFORD, Wisconsin - A sign excluding black people from a future Abbotsford, Wisconsin business is enraging some people in the small town.
It's a sign generations of people may have never seen, yet Mark Prior says it's his right to discriminate.
"If I've got a problem with you it's going to be on the front of my store," says Mark Prior.
When I first read this, I felt a sudden rush of rage but then thought about it. I'm okay with his sign and am equally okay with a black business posting a "no whites allowed" sign, a business with a "no men allowed" sign, or anything else of this sort. If I don't agree with the sign, I simply go somewhere else. Why does it have to be more difficult than that?
What do YOU think?
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They have a Black Caucus , a Hispanic Caucus... just sayin'. No to the sign.
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I have always believed that private property is private property, and all the talk of a "public accommodation" is a crockabaloney. But then again, I'm the guy who got in trouble with a mod here for defending someone else for correctly quoting an ugly word in classic American literature. I mean, call a spade a spade; I was not niggardly in my defense, nor was I spooked like a 'coon in a brushpile when others took offense.
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I have always believed that private property is private property, and all the talk of a "public accommodation" is a crockabaloney. But then again, I'm the guy who got in trouble with a mod here for defending someone else for correctly quoting an ugly word in classic American literature. I mean, call a spade a spade; I was not niggardly in my defense, nor was I spooked like a 'coon in a brushpile when others took offense.
Well, just don't tar us all with the same brush.
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No to the sign. And the jackhole that put it up.
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If he wants to put up that kind of crap, let him............................deal with the consequences.
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I have always believed that private property is private property, and all the talk of a "public accommodation" is a crockabaloney. But then again, I'm the guy who got in trouble with a mod here for defending someone else for correctly quoting an ugly word in classic American literature. I mean, call a spade a spade; I was not niggardly in my defense, nor was I spooked like a 'coon in a brushpile when others took offense.
Dr. Walter Williams taught me the meaning of that word.... and it wasn't what I first thought.... :-)
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I will know the Republic is safe when:
1. I can open an ethnic restaurant under the name of that ethnicity's "worst" cognomen (such as, but not limited to "Hiram the Honky's Hamburger Heaven"); costume the staff in ridiculous stereotypes; and deny service to any person, group, or category of people just because I want to; all without fear of legal liability.
(Items 2 and 3 are not germane to the discussion at hand.)
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Not very businesslike of the guy. After all, the color of money is green. Having said that, I do have mixed feelings on whether or not someone should be allowed to discriminate. After all, the Congressional Black Caucus did not allow a white Congressman to join, and that was due simply and solely to the color of his skin. Not to mention, as someone posted above, black and hispanic caucuses. There is also the Miss Black America pageant, the United Negro College Fund, the NAACP. Tell me again, 50 years or so after desegregation and downright favoritism to minorities via affirmative action, WHY it's still okay to not allow white people the same rights of exclusion as blacks and browns are granted.
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Not very businesslike of the guy. After all, the color of money is green. Having said that, I do have mixed feelings on whether or not someone should be allowed to discriminate. After all, the Congressional Black Caucus did not allow a white Congressman to join, and that was due simply and solely to the color of his skin. Not to mention, as someone posted above, black and hispanic caucuses. There is also the Miss Black America pageant, the United Negro College Fund, the NAACP. Tell me again, 50 years or so after desegregation and downright favoritism to minorities via affirmative action, WHY it's still okay to not allow white people the same rights of exclusion as blacks and browns are granted.
:rotf: ....oh yeah....If I were filthy rich, I'd hold a "Miss White America" pagent, The White Music Awards, The White Movie Awards...and the All White Entertainment TV Channel.
Of course 99% of my expenses would be legal fees but WTH, it would all be fun and games.
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Private property is just that. One should have the right to determine who enters it. If I don't want you on it - you can FOAD doesn't matter the reason I chose to use.
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As to keeping blacks out hurting his business, you know this is Wisconsin, not Mississippi.
What's the black population of Wisconsin?
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As to keeping blacks out hurting his business, you know this is Wisconsin, not Mississippi.
What's the black population of Wisconsin?
About the same as the sane population of DU.
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I hope his business fails for a couple reasons. This critter wouldn't make my Christmas card list to say the least.
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Actions have consequences and this joker, I'm sure, will get the full measure.
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Looks like we got the full run of "no the sign is garbage." to more radical Libertarian: "The gub'mint ain't gonna tell me I can't rape my dog if I want to, as long as I do it in my own house."
Proud moment.
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As to keeping blacks out hurting his business, you know this is Wisconsin, not Mississippi.
What's the black population of Wisconsin?
6.2%
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/55000.html
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As to keeping blacks out hurting his business, you know this is Wisconsin, not Mississippi.
What's the black population of Wisconsin?
Haven't spent much time in Milwaukee, have ya?
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Looks like we got the full run of "no the sign is garbage." to more radical Libertarian: "The gub'mint ain't gonna tell me I can't rape my dog if I want to, as long as I do it in my own house."
Proud moment.
It's diversity, man. Embrace it.
Yeah, "diversity" means everybody .
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If he wants to put up that kind of crap, let him............................deal with the consequences.
Personally, I think this may be a big publicity stunt to get his strip club some free advertisement and he is hoping to have people show up out of curiosity.
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"Tis the season to be racist,
Fa la la la la, la la la la"
Seriously, what is this guy thinking. We all know there are clubs, bars, etc that cater to a specific genera. For example, I don't think I'd go to the Appolo in NYC, because even though I may be able to go there, I don't think I'd be well recieved. There are other examples, but to put a sign like that outside for all to see is just not tasteful. Plainly wrong, IMO.
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This guy has already admitted to having a problem with "a few" blacks, then in order to address the problem, he shuts the place off from ALL blacks.
Looks like discrimination to me - and in our country at this time, there is a law against discrimination of this type. If he's running a private club, that's one thing. But if it's a public strip club, he's gonna get sued.
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Personally, I think this may be a big publicity stunt to get his strip club some free advertisement and he is hoping to have people show up out of curiosity.
I'm glad to see that someone else thought the exact same thing that I thought.
Talk about a way to get lots of free publicity!! He will probably be forced by the local government to remove the sign, but in the meantime...he's going to be "topic of discussion" at every water cooler, bar, coffee shop in the area.
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This guy has already admitted to having a problem with "a few" blacks, then in order to address the problem, he shuts the place off from ALL blacks.
Looks like discrimination to me - and in our country at this time, there is a law against discrimination of this type. If he's running a private club, that's one thing. But if it's a public strip club, he's gonna get sued.
+1. Refuse entry to the individual troublemakers, be they black, white, yellow, purple, whatever, but race based discrimination is illegal.
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Dude is an idiot. His business won't last long. Next?
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Dude is an idiot. His business won't last long. Next?
I figure he probably knows what he's doing, and the odds are Celtic Rose is right. I'd guess his regular clientele likes the sign, there hasn't been a Black guy step into it as a customer in the past three years, and he'll still be ahead when the smoke clears and making 'Poor me' noises about the MIB from ZOG making him take the sign down.
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It's diversity, man. Embrace it.
Yeah, "diversity" means everybody .
What the hell are you talking about??
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I think it's gross. Does he have the right? I am not sure, but I think it is gross, and I hope it hurts his business.
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What the hell are you talking about??
Diversity! You know, the reason why we have to let undesired persons on our private property if we want to conduct business? It includes everybody, or as you said, "the full run of 'no the sign is garbage.' to more radical Libertarian" dog-rapists. Sure, you'd like to be able to put up a sign that said "no radical dog-rapists", but that wouldn't be right, dimmit!
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Sure, you'd like to be able to put up a sign that said "no radical dog-rapists", but that wouldn't be right, dimmit!
That's why God allowed man to invent the Firearm.
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Heres a interesting article that relates to this sign.
http://www.legalzoom.com/us-law/equal-rights/right-refuse-service
"We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone"
http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/restaurants-right-to-refuse-service.html
Does a Restaurant Have the Unrestricted Right to Refuse Service to Specific Patrons?
No. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 explicitly prohibits restaurants from refusing service to patrons on the basis of race, color, religion, or natural origin. In addition, most courts don’t allow restaurants to refuse service to patrons based on extremely arbitrary conditions. For example, a person likely can’t be refused service due to having a lazy eye.
So yes it is against the law to post that sign in his business. Case closed.
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If he wants to put up that kind of crap, let him............................deal with the consequences.
Agree. If a business only wants to permit 33 year old lesbians with nose rings and 3 toes on their left foot, let them
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Agree. If a business only wants to permit 33 year old lesbians with nose rings and 3 toes on their left foot, let them
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So funny, then why are businesses allow to discriminate against the poor, those that do not speak English or even prohibit people from brings in kids under the age of 12, or those wearing ball caps.
Business do cater to their base as in a tea shop for senior citizens that refuse service to drunken biker gangs.
Once admitted into a business the customer has all the same rights as other customers.
So to keep the peace and not cause problems the owners post signs outside of what customers are expected to wear, to be and what not.
Can you imagine the confusion of the owners of burger joints that have 100 people a day come in that do not speak English.
If I were to open a British restaurant that only serves meat pies and some thing called Kidney Pudding, and have a group of say 24 non English speaking people come in, how does this work.??
Remember the horrid tale of the Americans that handed their poodle to the door man and could not make heads or tales of the menu, they just pointed at something at random. Dinner came and came under a metal cover, their dog cooked with garlic, onions and roasted potatoes.
Diversity be dammed in that field, if one is not welcome to a bar and grill run by Vets of this new war, put out a frigging sign to let the towel heads who may come wandering in they are not welcome----Saves engrossment and for the people and time for the cops to sort it all out.