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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Janice on December 10, 2010, 12:16:21 AM
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Iran Placing Medium-Range Missiles in Venezuela; Can Reach the U.S.
Hudson New York
by Anna Mahjar-Barducci
Iran is planning to place medium-range missiles on Venezuelan soil, based on western information sources[1], according to an article in the German daily, Die Welt, of November 25, 2010. According to the article, an agreement between the two countries was signed during the last visit o Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to Tehran on October19, 2010. The previously undisclosed contract provides for the establishment of a jointly operated military base in Venezuela, and the joint development of ground-to-ground missiles.
At a moment when NATO members found an agreement, in the recent Lisbon summit (19-20 November 2010), to develop a Missile Defence capability to protect NATO's populations and territories in Europe against ballistic missile attacks from the East (namely, Iran), Iran's counter-move consists in establishing a strategic base in the South American continent - in the United States's soft underbelly.
According to Die Welt, Venezuela has agreed to allow Iran to establish a military base manned by Iranian missile officers, soldiers of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Venezuelan missile officers. In addition, Iran has given permission for the missiles to be used in case of an "emergency". In return, the agreement states that Venezuela can use these facilities for "national needs" >>>
MORE (http://www.hudson-ny.org/1714/iran-missiles-in-venezuela)
Commissar Obama and the Peoples Socialist democrat Party must be extremely pleased with themselves and their pal Hugo Chavez about this one.
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So much for Comrade 0bama to destroy in that Great Satanic U.S. -- so little time ...
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If this is true, it is simply unacceptable.
Cuban Missile Crisis all over again, without a resolute, determined president at the helm.
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I found this little gem on the Web this morning, courtesy of Drudge.
Iran Placing Medium-Range Missiles in Venezuela; Can Reach the U.S.
by Anna Mahjar-Barducci
December 8, 2010 at 5:00 am
http://www.hudson-ny.org/1714/iran-missiles-in-venezuela
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Iran is planning to place medium-range missiles on Venezuelan soil, based on western information sources[1], according to an article in the German daily, Die Welt, of November 25, 2010. According to the article, an agreement between the two countries was signed during the last visit o Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to Tehran on October19, 2010. The previously undisclosed contract provides for the establishment of a jointly operated military base in Venezuela, and the joint development of ground-to-ground missiles.
At a moment when NATO members found an agreement, in the recent Lisbon summit (19-20 November 2010), to develop a Missile Defence capability to protect NATO's populations and territories in Europe against ballistic missile attacks from the East (namely, Iran), Iran's counter-move consists in establishing a strategic base in the South American continent - in the United States's soft underbelly.
According to Die Welt, Venezuela has agreed to allow Iran to establish a military base manned by Iranian missile officers, soldiers of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Venezuelan missile officers. In addition, Iran has given permission for the missiles to be used in case of an "emergency". In return, the agreement states that Venezuela can use these facilities for "national needs" – radically increasing the threat to neighbors like Colombia. The German daily claims that according to the agreement, Iranian Shahab 3 (range 1300-1500 km), Scud-B (285-330 km) and Scud-C (300, 500 and 700 km) will be deployed in the proposed base. It says that Iran also pledged to help Venezuela in rocket technology expertise, including intensive training of officers
Venezuela has also become the country through which Iran intends to bypass UN sanctions. Following a new round of UN sanctions against the Islamic Republic, for example, Russia decided not to sell five battalions of S-300PMU-1 air defence systems to Iran. These weapons, along with a number of other weapons, were part of a deal, signed in 2007, worth $800 million. Now that these weapons cannot be delivered to Iran, Russia is looking for new customers; according to the Russian press agency Novosti[2], it found one: Venezuela.
Novosti reports the words of Igor Korotchenko, head of a Moscow-based think tank on international arms trade, saying that if the S-300 deal with Venezuela goes through, Caracas should pay cash for the missiles, rather than take another loan from Russia. "The S-300 is a very good product and Venezuela should pay the full amount in cash, as the country's budget has enough funds to cover the deal ," Korotchenko said. Moscow has already provided Caracas with several loans to buy Russian-made weaponry, including a recent $2.2-mln loan on the purchase of 92 T-72M1M tanks, the Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems and other military equipment.
I wonder if they can reach the Northeast . . . They damned well can reach Texas.
http://www.hudson-ny.org/1714/iran-missiles-in-venezuela
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Dupe.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,52448.msg584437.html#msg584437
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'EU offering to okay Iran nuclear program in return for UN supervision'
Haaretz [Israel]
by Shlomo Shamir
The European Union is proposing that Iran be allowed to continue its uranium enrichment processes if it agrees to tight United Nations supervision of its nuclear program, diplomatic sources told Haaretz on Wednesday.
SOURCE (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/eu-offering-to-okay-iran-nuclear-program-in-return-for-un-supervision-1.329547)
Great. So Iran is locking its nuclear scientists up in compounds, supposedly to prevent them from being killed ... but more likely to prevent them from defecting. The conservative factions are at each others throats. The regime is crumbling. The nutballs are on the verge of falling and the EU wants to throw them a lifeline.
:banghead:
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If this is true, it is simply unacceptable.
Cuban Missile Crisis all over again, without a resolute, determined president at the helm.
That's not a good thing.
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**shaking head**
I don't know what to say? I don't like the sounds of this.
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**shaking head**
I don't know what to say? I don't like the sounds of this.
They'll have to ship them....so, Somalia pirates might get them... or the ship might sink in the "bermuda Triangle"....Nope, won't happen....our president ain't that smart.
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If we had a real man in the White House he would act militarily against these threats. :hammer:
Sometimes bombs have to be dropped and sadly civilians may be unintentionally caught in the collateral damage, but in the long run it protects our sovereignty and American lives, which are supposed to be the President's #1 concern. Instead we have this metrosexual, race & class baiting closet muslim in there.
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If we had a real man in the White House he would act militarily against these threats. :hammer:
Sometimes bombs have to be dropped and sadly civilians may be unintentionally caught in the collateral damage, but in the long run it protects our sovereignty and American lives, which are supposed to be the President's #1 concern. Instead we have this metrosexual, race & class baiting closet muslim in there.
Tell me about it.
How we got stuck with this Barack Hussein Obama is beyond me. I wish he would have stuck to community organizing.
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Tell me about it.
How we got stuck with this Barack Hussein Obama is beyond me. I wish he would have stuck to community organizing.
Well, he wasn't any good at that....so they promoted him.
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Russia found another idiot to buy their crap? a fool and their money and all that.
U.S. either takes them out or does nothing because they know Russia sold them duds. Take your pick.
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Not that I am discounting the fact that those missiles are a real danger but if they can reach us we sure as HELL can reach them first.
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Not that I am discounting the fact that those missiles are a real danger but if they can reach us we sure as HELL can reach them first.
:-)
I like your thinking AW.
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The problem is our boy in the White House, if he's even there this weekend, would rather play nice than kick their ass.
Cowdude
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Venezuela acquired 1,800 Russian antiaircraft missiles in '09
Washington Post
by Juan Forero
BOGOTA, COLOMBIA - Russia delivered at least 1,800 shoulder-fired antiaircraft missiles to Venezuela in 2009, U.N. arms control data show, despite vigorous U.S. efforts to stop President Hugo Chavez's stridently anti-American government from acquiring the weapons. >>>
Matt Schroeder, a missile expert at the Federation of American Scientists in Washington, said the missiles are among the most sophisticated in the world and can down aircraft from 19,000 feet. >>>
The database also shows that from 2006 through 2008, Russia delivered to Venezuela 472 missiles and launching mechanisms, 44 attack helicopters and 24 combat aircraft, purchases funded by Venezuelan oil sales. >>>
A State Department cable on Aug. 10, 2009, to embassies in Europe and South America said Russian sales to Venezuela total "over $5 billion last year and growing." There was also concern about Spain's plans to sell aircraft and coastal patrol boats to Venezuela.
MORE (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/11/AR2010121103148.html)
Funny how marxist dictators always seem to be looking over their shoulders when no one is chasing them ... so how many of these do you suppose will make their way north?
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Hugo might have just stepped over the line. I'm sure the rest of South America is real happy that they will get some US nukes pointed down that way now. The nuke fallout is sure to put the fear into them.
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Hmm...can you say "World War III"? I know it's hard to imagine with all the pussies claiming "peace" in the name of not defending ourselves, but I imagine that the United States, running under Obama, will fall and that's when all hell will break loose.
With a president like Hugo Chavez and Iran's dictator A...whatever his name is who are both flaming American haters, and with Osama, I mean Obama, being in office to not stop them, I'm sure this will set off some flares for real Americans and others will look the other way and not make the obvious correlation that American haters+missiles+close to America=America ceasing to exist. Or they don't care...
What is the purpose of Iran building missiles in Venezuela anyway? If they were at war with a close by nation currently, it would be understandable, but what is their reasoning behind such an act?
This is them flipping us off. I suppose our politicians think they're being the "bigger man" by not knocking the ass' lights out. Only problem is that their middle finger is actually a 20 foot missile capable of killing thousands of lives.
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The Monroe Doctrine b. 1823, d. 2010
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The Monroe Doctrine b. 1823, d. 2010
Yes.
H5