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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on December 08, 2010, 09:31:12 PM
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walldude (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 09:53 PM
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The hacks were a warning.
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 09:54 PM by walldude
Call it cybercrime, call it whatever bullshit you want.It wasn't a crime it was a ****ing warning. The hacks were a warning to a government that has been allowed to get away with shit for 30 years. A government that believes it holds all the cards, and all the power. A government that believes it is untouchable, that they can get away with anything they damn well want. Iran Contra, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo, the list of illegal activities the government has gotten away with over the last 30 years is ENDLESS.
Now the government is SCARED. They are clamping down, and shutting up. They are afraid because someone out there showed them that they do not hold all the cards, they do not run everything, and that people are getting pissed off, and that some of these people hold knowledge and power that cannot be stopped.
You can call them criminals. I call them friends.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9729520
I'm not going to bring over any more of the other traitorous comments for now. I just wanted to let the lurking DUmmies know something. The current administration is looking for ways of shutting down the internet, whether it is by the FCC or through legislation.
These hacks into the credit companies is just the ammunition the government needs to declare an emergency and shut the internet down.
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I want to see them be as brave as they claim to be. Try this with the Russians. Or the Israelis.
Of course they won't. They'll only do it on us and the W. Euros since we'll *****foot around with them.
Cowards one and all.
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Well, if it ever does happen...it was nice posting with all of you. You guys ROCK!
However, I don't think it will. We are steadily heading into an era where it starts to turn to chaos. Hell, in a FICTIONAL movie, Joker made it happen for a while. Shook that reality to the core. I'm hoping that kind of mentality doesn't leap off the big screen, and into cyber world lives.
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They don't need to shuit down the internet. They just need a varation on the Stuxnet virus to get to the computers at Wikileaks and the hackers and they will lose everything when thier Hard Drives spin up fast enough to melt.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9729520
I'm not going to bring over any more of the other traitorous comments for now. I just wanted to let the lurking DUmmies know something. The current administration is looking for ways of shutting down the internet, whether it is by the FCC or through legislation.
These hacks into the credit companies is just the ammunition the government needs to declare an emergency and shut the internet down.
Wally got a bit of an education later on in this thread. His pathetic whining leads me to believe he is unable to secure a credit card and is probably no longer working as a roadie on trade shows. (probably a good thing since his smug attitude would probably result in as ass kicking out side event halls by his less anarchistic peers).
For some reason many of the cheerleaders on this thread reminded me of junior high where the kids would all gather around in a circle and yell fight, fight as a couple lame-o's bitch slapped at each other. Not much damage was done in those affairs but the cheerleaders then went of to tell great tails of an epic battle leaving bloody entrails in the hall. Bunch of drama queens.
It may be worth taking another quick look at this thread.
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I wonder if they hacked into the EBT system if the DUmmies would still be happy over this.
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I'd love for the government to shut down the internet.
It will than at least take off the mask it wears.
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One of our favorite freaks sums up the childishness of DUmmy think.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 10:05 PM
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17. :)
Wonderful is what I call them,and it's about time the rich and evil got what they had coming for years...years of abusing power ,people,and this world.
Hail Sekhmet !!!
They think this is some form of "V for vendetta" movie in the making and all society will crash down leaving all debts washed away and themselves assuming the power of governance and its spoils.
Every outlook on life is from a deluded bitterness about how unfair and unlucky they are.
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One of our favorite freaks sums up the childishness of DUmmy think.
They think this is some form of "V for vendetta" movie in the making and all society will crash down leaving all debts washed away and themselves assuming the power of governance and its spoils.
Every outlook on life is from a deluded bitterness about how unfair and unlucky they are.
I just find it funny how Roman Polanski drug and sodomized a 13 year old girl and has access to all of his bank accounts and has been walking the streets of France.
The charges in Sweden are sex without a condom and Interpol has managed to freeze all of this guys assets.
I'm glad to see the due process thing is working out for the world.
Hell, they shut down his bank accounts without even getting a court order. Al Quaeda operatives have to at least get a judge to sign off on putting them on the AML list.
Someone mentioned they are worried about the Government coming up with an excuse to shut down the Internet. The fact that we live in a time, where the government thinks the people would be OK with that, because they are having trouble securing their none top secret documents due to the government's own incompetence says more about the times and the people who are existing in it than it does about anything else.
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I just find it funny how Roman Polanski drug and sodomized a 13 year old girl and has access to all of his bank accounts and has been walking the streets of France.
The charges in Sweden are sex without a condom and Interpol has managed to freeze all of this guys assets.
I'm glad to see the due process thing is working out for the world.
Hell, they shut down his bank accounts without even getting a court order. Al Quaeda operatives have to at least get a judge to sign off on putting them on the AML list.
Someone mentioned they are worried about the Government coming up with an excuse to shut down the Internet. The fact that we live in a time, where the government thinks the people would be OK with that, because they are having trouble securing their none top secret documents due to the government's own incompetence says more about the times and the people who are existing in it than it does about anything else.
In all honesty Jake I care little about being delicate with Assange if his actions are putting American lives or American security in jeopardy.
Like it or not we live in a world that not everyone wants to play by nice nice rules and for as long as we have been a nation we have acted in accord with that as it relates to security.
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Carl,
Nothing that was revealed in the link was anything that "damaging"
Frankly, I'd be worried a little bit less about the Albino Australian and more worried about what else left the government files and who has them than the guy leaking them for free on the internet.
Fact of the matter is a PFC who doesn't appear to be all that bright, took a flash drive and downloaded a shit load of government documents.
No one paid him a visit till after the albino started yacking.
I wonder what someone who has a profit motive got with government security so lax.
Seeing this guy got the information from a PFC, I'm willing to guess any government with a national security operation already has it and paid for it long before it started appearing on the web.
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Carl,
Nothing that was revealed in the link was anything that "damaging"
Frankly, I'd be worried a little bit less about the Albino Australian and more worried about what else left the government files and who has them than the guy leaking them for free on the internet.
Fact of the matter is a PFC who doesn't appear to be all that bright, took a flash drive and downloaded a shit load of government documents.
No one paid him a visit till after the albino started yacking.
I wonder what someone who has a profit motive got with government security so lax.
Seeing this guy got the information from a PFC, I'm willing to guess any government with a national security operation already has it and paid for it long before it started appearing on the web.
On the damaging point I don`t know,honestly have not paid all that much attention to whatever info has been leaked.
Bear in mind though we shouldn`t fall into a trap of viewing things only from our perspective.
That is...what may be simply uncomfortable and embarrassing to us may be insulting and internally devastating to another country.
When you have unstable areas that are not exactly "friendly" with us like Pakistan certain care needs to be taken.
Beyond all that and if one really wants to engage in delcious tinfoil speculation how does this all relate to Hillary arriving at the State department in 2009,something that never made sense to me.
Was this a plan of O to set her up and neutralize her politically or did she know where the bodies were buried so had to get into the graveyard first? :-)
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Don't give Obama credibility he doesn't have.
Hillary was put at state so she didn't **** with him in the Senate.
There wasn't anything in there that embarrassing or things educated people didn't assume the government was doing anyway.
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Don't give Obama credibility he doesn't have.
Hillary was put at state so she didn't **** with him in the Senate.
There wasn't anything in there that embarrassing or things educated people didn't assume the government was doing anyway.
When playing poker I can assume what your hold card is. But, how much better it is to be able to actually read the spots on its back. Of course in the old western that usually resulted in swift justice, an not that delivered by Nanny Grace. :rotf:
What is so darn funny about this is the lather which the dump worked itself into over the Plame 'outing'. One would expexct them to have strength of their convictions. Oh yeah, convictions. Never mind. :-)
I read the OP early this morning and all that I could think of is "script kiddies". Think flea with a hard-on floating down the river yelling "Raise the drawbridge".
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I'm still scratching my head at if the Albino got all that information nobody else asked what someone who has more serious intentions other than posting things on the internet got in that lax security environment.
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Don't give Obama credibility he doesn't have.
Hillary was put at state so she didn't **** with him in the Senate.
There wasn't anything in there that embarrassing or things educated people didn't assume the government was doing anyway.
Worthy of a H5. However, the bolded got confirmation from the leaks, which is something that is . . . embarrassing.
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I just find it funny how Roman Polanski drug and sodomized a 13 year old girl and has access to all of his bank accounts and has been walking the streets of France.
The charges in Sweden are sex without a condom and Interpol has managed to freeze all of this guys assets.
I'm glad to see the due process thing is working out for the world.
Hell, they shut down his bank accounts without even getting a court order. Al Quaeda operatives have to at least get a judge to sign off on putting them on the AML list.
Someone mentioned they are worried about the Government coming up with an excuse to shut down the Internet. The fact that we live in a time, where the government thinks the people would be OK with that, because they are having trouble securing their none top secret documents due to the government's own incompetence says more about the times and the people who are existing in it than it does about anything else.
I was talking to somebody who is more conspiracy minded than I, and his theory is that the charges in Sweden were made up by Assange and the women, and the complaint was made in Sweden before all this was released, to give Sweden the right to arrest him first. What it is supposed to accomplish, I don't know, but there is the conspiracy theory :tinfoil2:
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Nah the one woman has NSA for some country written all over either ours or Israel.
She has since left Sweden and is now working for a Christian organization in Gaza.
I'm not really a conspiracy type of person.
I just can guess that when a woman has free reign of the globe and can get into Gaza easily she isn't some stranger at a bar.
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They don't need to shuit down the internet. They just need a varation on the Stuxnet virus to get to the computers at Wikileaks and the hackers and they will lose everything when thier Hard Drives spin up fast enough to melt.
No doubt there's many ways of raining on his parade.
What I believe will be his, and others who try it, eventual undoing is human nature itself. The guy is nothing but a giant gossip of items of which he had no business having access. Bottom line: Nobody likes a tattle-tale. We didn't like them in school, we didn't like them on the playground, we don't like them at work, and we don't like them in the general public.
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No doubt there's many ways of raining on his parade.
What I believe will be his, and others who try it, eventual undoing is human nature itself. The guy is nothing but a giant gossip of items of which he had no business having access. Bottom line: Nobody likes a tattle-tale. We didn't like them in school, we didn't like them on the playground, we don't like them at work, and we don't like them in the general public.
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That's why I think that he'll piss off the Russians, and they will "end the problem."
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Carl,
Nothing that was revealed in the link was anything that "damaging"
Frankly, I'd be worried a little bit less about the Albino Australian and more worried about what else left the government files and who has them than the guy leaking them for free on the internet.
Fact of the matter is a PFC who doesn't appear to be all that bright, took a flash drive and downloaded a shit load of government documents.
No one paid him a visit till after the albino started yacking.
I wonder what someone who has a profit motive got with government security so lax.
Seeing this guy got the information from a PFC, I'm willing to guess any government with a national security operation already has it and paid for it long before it started appearing on the web.
Telling the world the locations of people and companies helping us out during a time of war isn't damaging to the US? You are a ****ing retard of the lowest order.
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I'm not going to bring over any more of the other traitorous comments for now. I just wanted to let the lurking DUmmies know something. The current administration is looking for ways of shutting down the internet, whether it is by the FCC or through legislation.
These hacks into the credit companies is just the ammunition the government needs to declare an emergency and shut the internet down.
I really hope the DUmmies and liberals see this. I don't think they understand what they are really supporting here. They're getting into bed with a monster.
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They're getting into bed with a monster.
That's where little democrats come from.
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:rotf: ^5 Bucks.
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That's where little democrats come from.
:lmao:
H5
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You know a few barrels of Astrolight and some detcord and this problem would go away mighty quick.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolite
Nasty stuff. A person could stand on top of it and wouldn't know it they heard the earth shattering Ka boom.