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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on December 08, 2010, 04:51:16 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9726505
Oh my.
First, one of the copy-and-paste queens.
Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:27 PM
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Visa.com DOWN!
http://isitup.org/www.visa.com IT'S DOWN! KEEP FIRING!!! #DDOS #PAYBACK #WIKILEAKS
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:28 PM
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3. Amazing.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:35 PM
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15. It matters because the strategy is to make this about Assange and to isolate him.
This direct action demonstrates that he is not alone. Pretty simple, really. He's not alone and his supporters are not passive. It's basically a threat of ungovernability, only a global one.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:44 PM
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27. This is a lot more efficient than marching in DC, isn't it?
This "case" only exists, imo, because of pressure from our government. It was thrown out in Sweden and then re-opened under pressure from a political appointee, if I have this straight.
I'm just watching like everyone else but it seems to me that these actions will slow down the government's rush to take out Assange and it directly challenges their abuse of power in hounding Wikileaks without charging them.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:38 PM
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24. It would impress PayPal, too. Maybe that's why PayPal said today that they were pressured by the government. They don't want to pick the wrong side.
DFab420 (403 posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:34 PM
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13. inconsequential DDOS is inconsequential.
it doesn't affect VISA or MasterCard other then pissing off the users of their public website.
Doesn't interrupt business.
Doesn't teach them a lesson.
inconsequential.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:37 PM
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19. Thank you. I usually have to wait days and days for the Word from on High.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:47 PM
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28. They took out the Swedish prosecutor's site the other day and also that bank thingy that the Swiss post office uses.
Kids these days.
PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:52 PM
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35. Diner's Club is HUGE in the WikiDrama
JCB too!
Go get em!
Seriously, WTF.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 05:00 PM
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40. Sounds like wiki envy to me.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:55 PM
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38. I hear you.
And note, none of this was on until the world watched Julian Assange being scapegoated, threatened with assassination, let alone, denied due process.
I guess I'm surprised that anyone has a way to fight back still.
By the way, in case one didn't know this, Doug's stupid ex-wife has a long long record of defending rapists.....if the rapist has her political ideology, such as it is.
TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 05:24 PM
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47. how stupid - this is going to backfire
Having a website is nothing more than a convenience for some customers. Without it life will go on just fine. You'd think that without the internet we still lived in caves with the way people go on around here. Seriously, how many times have you or anyone else here accessed Visa's website anyway and how vital was it that you could? But how many people that have a need to access the website are going to be pleased for the reason for it? ZERO... people don't like their needs and conveniences ****ed with, and when they find out who is responsible for having their needs and conveniences ****ed with they're going to be pissed off and they aren't going to give a crap about the reason that their needs and conveniences were ****ed with.
This is just childish behavior from the adament supporters of Assange/Wikileaks and the likelihood is that if anyone actually finds out about it to begin with they'll be pissed off at those supporters, not with them. This foolish stunt not only does nothing but create a little website service inconvenience (any expense of which by Visa will be handed back to Visa customers) but is far more likely to reflect BADLY on Assange/Wilileaks. So what is the point other than being petty and childish and inadvertantly hurting Assange/Wikileaks?
If supporters want to try to make a difference boycott, write LTTE's, badger journalists, figure out a REAL way to help instead of petty nonsense that doesn't really do anything but turn potential support away from Assange/Wikileaks.
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The primitives are just hoping that somehow their deadbeat interest payments are uploaded into a server that gets its data extracted and then wiped.
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Just wait until the DUmmies realize they can't use their debit cards to buy cheetos.
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:55 PM
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38. I hear you.
And note, none of this was on until the world watched Julian Assange being scapegoated....
Scapegoated? As if you have haven't proven it often enough, Beth, you're one of the DUmbest ****s on the internet.
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 05:24 PM
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If supporters want to try to make a difference boycott, write LTTE's, badger journalists, figure out a REAL way to help instead of petty nonsense that doesn't really do anything but turn potential support away from Assange/Wikileaks.
DUmmie owes me a new keyboard and half a can of rum.
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:55 PM
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38. I hear you.
And note, none of this was on until the world watched Julian Assange being scapegoated....
So what's up with poor, stupid Beth these days? Still dreaming of Yugo's oily embrace, while holed up with Mom in that little camper out in the California desert?
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At least one primitive realizes that this action means little more that a nuisance. I am certain that the actual finance computers are not affected, and probably communicate using a custom protocol that is totally incompatible with the web, making this sort of DDoS attack useless.
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Visa.com works for me. Must be because I have good credit and pay my bills on time.
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Visa.com works for me. Must be because I have good credit and pay my bills on time.
Or because the people responsible reached their curfew and mom shut off the computer.
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Price of a bag of Cheetos: $2.99
Price of a high-speed Internet connection: $39.99
The look on a DUmbasses face when they realize they've harmed NO ONE: Priceless.
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How would the DUmmies like it if someone took down DU? They'd be howling and throwing feces for the government to find the hackers. I'd be pissed myself for missing out on the fun of the Island.
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 04:35 PM
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15. It matters because the strategy is to make this about Assange and to isolate him.
This direct action demonstrates that he is not alone.
I hate these stupid little phrases these people have come up with. Hey, you worthless hippies... you know who else acted directly? The Ohio National Guard.
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How is this #PAYBACK? Business hours are over. Everyone at Visa has gone home for they day.
All you're doing is making life suck for the hourly employee who's job it is to keep the web servers up and running. Thanks a lot, losers.
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So what's up with poor, stupid Beth these days? Still dreaming of Yugo's oily embrace, while holed up with Mom in that little camper out in the California desert?
Yeah, nothing new with Doug's stupid ex-wife; she's been the same for months and months.
Excepting that now she has this quaint habit of referring to San Francisco as "we," "our," "my," even though she hasn't been a resident of that city for more than a year now. She had a great campfire about how she supported "her" San Francisco banning toys in fast-food meals.
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Screw Obama, DU found their new messiah.
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Yeah, nothing new with Doug's stupid ex-wife; she's been the same for months and months.
Excepting that now she has this quaint habit of referring to San Francisco as "we," "our," "my," even though she hasn't been a resident of that city for more than a year now. She had a great campfire about how she supported "her" San Francisco banning toys in fast-food meals.
Where did she go?
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How would the DUmmies like it if someone took down DU? They'd be howling and throwing feces for the government to find the hackers. I'd be pissed myself for missing out on the fun of the Island.
The DUmbasses has better realize there are some serious black hats on our end of the political spectrum, too. a cyber pissing contest is the last thing they should want. But alas, they're too stupid to consider the real consequences of what they do.
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Where did she go?
She moved in with her mother on the desert down near San Jose.
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I try not to hate people. I hate stupid Beth. She's a pox on the butt of humanity.
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I don't hate her but I wouldn't stop you if you wanted to push her intro traffic. :whistling:
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I don't hate her but I wouldn't stop you if you wanted to push her intro traffic. :whistling:
If I ever run into her, I won't hesitate. I figure I'll be doing the world a favor.
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I don't hate her but I wouldn't stop you if you wanted to push her into traffic. :whistling:
Well, I wouldn't go that far, because of franksolich's long relationship with, and affection for, Doug's stupid ex-wife.
I might holler, HELP, POLICE!, which would after all be some sort of positive action.
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....and DUmmies everywhere rush out tonight to max out the $200 credit limit on their VISA cards thinking they won't have to pay it back.
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She moved in with her mother on the desert down near San Jose.
So, her husband left her, her children are criminals, and she moved back in with her mommy?
Ordinarily I don't relish the bad fortune of others, but in Beth's case, I will make an exception.
And I have not ruled out that Beth and Deb Frisch are the same person.
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Screw Obama, DU found their new messiah.
I know, right? From one loser to the next loser.
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And these people wonder why only 20% of Americans subscribe to their ideology and the other 80% reject it.
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So, her husband left her, her children are criminals, and she moved back in with her mommy?
Ordinarily I don't relish the bad fortune of others, but in Beth's case, I will make an exception.
And I have not ruled out that Beth and Deb Frisch are the same person.
Well, poor, stupid Beth didn't actually move BACK IN with her mother. Beth, along with her equally poor, stupid brother, advised their mother on business matters, the predictable result of which was Mom losing her home and her rental properties. At about the same time, poor, stupid Beth lost her aparment in the world's capital of sodomy, the rent on which was probably being paid by her now-devastated mother. The old lady still owned a few acres of sand somewhere out in the California desert upon which, decades ago, someone abandoned a small camping trailer. Both Mom and poor, stupid Beth have sheltered there with the kangaroo rats and scorpions ever since, joined from time to time by the equally poor, stupid brother and/or poor, stupid Beth's son, during the intervals between his incarcerations for drug crimes.
Poor, stupid Beth often describes herself as the most stable person in her family. The really hilarious thing about that is that it may be true.
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Methinks the only people who would support the hacking of a credit card company's site are those who have unwisely amassed gobs of balances with outrageous rates. "Living on tick", as the English say, is a sure fire way to stay indepted for decades. IMHO, using credit should only be used to purchase large ticket items like a house, a car, auto repairs, house repairs, major appliances or large medical bills. Using a CC to buy things like clothes or groceries is insane unless you can afford to pay down the balance monthly.