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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chris_ on December 05, 2010, 01:34:48 PM
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WikiLeaks Ready to Release Giant 'Insurance' File if Shut Down
Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, has circulated across the internet an encrypted “poison pill” cache of uncensored documents suspected to include files on BP and Guantanamo Bay.
One of the files identified this weekend by The Sunday Times — called the “insurance” file — has been downloaded from the WikiLeaks website by tens of thousands of supporters, from America to Australia.
Assange warns that any government that tries to curtail his activities risks triggering a new deluge of state and commercial secrets.
One of the key files available for download — named insurance.aes256 — appears to be encrypted with a 256-digit key. Experts said last week it was virtually unbreakable.
UK Sunday Times (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/05/wikileaks-ready-release-massive-insurance-file-shut/#ixzz17GexC2vf)
Why is this piece of shit not room-temperature yet? :mad:
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Let's see?! The gubberment can shut down a website selling fake Rolex watches and blogspots and stuff like that, but they can't stop a website like this from sending out more garbage?!
Something's weird here. I hope the Russians find this dude quick and "pay him a visit". :-) :cheersmate:
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I thought WL's servers were in Sweden. I was surprised to hear Amazon was being used to host his site.
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I guess DingleBarry won't go after this jagoff until he threatens to publish The One's college transcripts, which until now he has refused to release. Probably because he was a mediocre student at best and a product of affirmative action.
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I guess DingleBarry won't go after this jagoff until he threatens to publish The One's college transcripts, which until now he has refused to release. Probably because he was a mediocre student at best and a product of affirmative action.
Or he attended as a foreign student at reduced tuition rates. :tinfoil2:
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One of the key files available for download — named insurance.aes256 — appears to be encrypted with a 256-digit key. Experts said last week it was virtually unbreakable.
Very little is impossible - especially when one has access to a computing resource like what resides in a particular Maryland basement.
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Very little is impossible - especially when one has access to a computing resource like what resides in a particular Maryland basement.
I would think that some government agency has this file and is already working to break the encryption.
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I guess DingleBarry won't go after this jagoff until he threatens to publish The One's college transcripts, which until now he has refused to release. Probably because he was a mediocre student at best and a product of affirmative action.
His records have the greatest security ever devised .... liberals that don't want the truth out there.
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I would think that some government agency has this file and is already working to break the encryption.
I would bet on it.
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His records have the greatest security ever devised .... liberals that don't want the truth out there.
I would bet that all known electronic records have been purged.
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I would bet that all known electronic records have been purged.
I agree and think any paper ones have been doctored or removed to a safe place.
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WikiLeaks Ready to Release Giant 'Insurance' File if Shut Down
I'd qualify that as extortion.
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What about executing Bradley Manning? He started it all. He should be exposed to nuclear radiation in a critical mass phase.
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What about executing Bradley Manning? He started it all. He should be exposed to nuclear radiation in a critical mass phase.
Instead the little homo will get his dream made true for him by putting him in PMITA jail.
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I guess DingleBarry won't go after this jagoff until he threatens to publish The One's college transcripts, which until now he has refused to release. Probably because he was a mediocre student at best and a product of affirmative action.
Dinglebarry? I like that. Rather suits when you think of it.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dingleberry
3. dingleberry
A smallish, semi-dry, extraordinarily tenacious remnant of fecal matter which, when unwittingly rolled into a mixture with toilet paper lint by the action of wiping, becomes almost irremovably entangled among ones anal hair, a situationality exacerbated by the vigorous chafing and friction between the buttocks and most commonly remedied by the sad and almost entirely unavoidable remedy of plucking out at its root the individual hair to which each dingleberry is conjoined. Of related interest, dingleberries are often noted as having the vague odor of undigested corn or peanuts.
I would say the Wiki leaker needs to be treated in the same manner as the thief who tried to steal the crown jewels. Cuts down on recidivism. And copy cats. Nothing like finding the hide of the previous perp nailed to the door.
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Probably get in trouble here, but I'm fine with Wikileaks.
The first amendment is sacred.
The government's data security information on classified documents and access is obviously severely retarded.
I still want to know, why a PFC had the ability to DL those cables without having a visit by someone.
I was an auditor for 7 years. Product information appears to be more secure than national security matters.
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Probably get in trouble here, but I'm fine with Wikileaks.
The next document batch containing the names and addresses of covert operatives working undercover overseas? still warm and fuzzy for the wikileaks?
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The next document batch containing the names and addresses of covert operatives working undercover overseas? still warm and fuzzy for the wikileaks?
How the hell did he get them.
Frankly, he isn't a US Citizen. Getting angry because you are too dumb to segregate the access to your data and than charging a guy with having sex without a condom in response because you ****ed up.
Sorry, the US government is in the giant ****ing stupid column here. The guy went to them for redactions prior to the last release.
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I still want to know, why a PFC had the ability to DL those cables without having a visit by someone.
Agreed "Baltar". Yes. I know your avatar. And I love BSG too. :-)
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Agreed "Baltar". Yes. I know your avatar. And I love BSG too. :-)
Oh hell, the first thing you check is data access when doing a security audit.
Someone downloads 5 gigabytes of diverse data from you, and you don't find out why? Really?
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Probably get in trouble here, but I'm fine with Wikileaks.
The first amendment is sacred.
The government's data security information on classified documents and access is obviously severely retarded.
I still want to know, why a PFC had the ability to DL those cables without having a visit by someone.
I was an auditor for 7 years. Product information appears to be more secure than national security matters.
Trusted links ? Failure to compartmentalize? Then too, sometimes they make the system so complicated users develop work arounds and cheat sheets to get things done.
I had a midwest college using biometrics and thumb drive encryption devices on a frigin laptop at a diversity seminar but have seen passwords taped to terminals in a government office.
If you are good with wiki leaks stuff how about send me your social and mother's maiden name? :naughty:
Or not.
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Trusted links ? Failure to compartmentalize? Then too, sometimes they make the system so complicated develop work arounds and cheat sheets to get things done.
I had a midwest college using biometrics and thumb drive encryption devices on a frigin laptop at a diversity seminar but have seen passwords taped to terminals in a government office.
If you are good with wiki leaks stuff how about send me your social and mother's maiden name? :naughty:
Or not.
Last I checked, I'm not in much of a position of authority. Journalist are meant to report on authority, not protect it.
I'm still scratching my head on how they had this breakdown in security.
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How the hell did he get them.
Frankly, he isn't a US Citizen. Getting angry because you are too dumb to segregate the access to your data and than charging a guy with having sex without a condom in response because you ****ed up.
Sorry, the US government is in the giant ****ing stupid column here. The guy went to them for redactions prior to the last release.
Doesn't matter how he got them -- he would get operatives killed by posting their names and addresses. All in the name of free speech. Our enemy posting them? sure. A putz with a laptop all for attention? yeah he is a hero alright.
Libertarians never cease to sicken me to the absolute core.
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Doesn't matter how he got them -- he would get operatives killed by posting their names and addresses. All in the name of free speech. Our enemy posting them? sure. A putz with a laptop all for attention? yeah he is a hero alright.
Libertarians never cease to sicken me to the absolute core.
You must hate Jefferson.
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You must hate Jefferson.
...yeah and Madison too. :whatever:
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...yeah and Madison too. :whatever:
Hamilton Fan? I'm going to do a jig over Burr doing us all a favor.
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You must hate Jefferson.
Jefferson is my favorite of the Founding Fathers. He was a man of many contradictions and he's hard to figure out. He spoke against slavery, yet owned slaves. He hated political parties, but then founded a new party and declared that England's "party division of Whig and Tory is the most wholesome which can exist in any government."
He favored a strict construction of the Constitution and worried about excessive presidential power, yet as President he acquired the Louisiana Territory without prior congressional authorization and ruled it like a monarch.
He championed freedom of the press , but while President he suggested to the governor of Pennsylvania, a fellow Republican, that a few well-chosen prosecutions of Federalist newspapers would have a "wholesome effect in restoring the integrity of the press."
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Jefferson is my favorite of the Founding Fathers. He was a man of many contradictions and he's hard to figure out. He spoke against slavery, yet owned slaves. He hated political parties, but then founded a new party and declared that England's "party division of Whig and Tory is the most wholesome which can exist in any government." I think that was a necessity thing, than a justification on why he did it. The slave issue was more about his neighbors threatening to kidnap his slaves if he freed them, from the apologies I've read on that aspect
He favored a strict construction of the Constitution and worried about excessive presidential power, yet as President he acquired the Louisiana Territory without prior congressional authorization and ruled it like a monarch. Interesting part of American History, due to the situation in Europe, paying the French for that territory was a gesture of good will. He could have just taken it.
He championed freedom of the press , but while President he suggested to the governor of Pennsylvania, a fellow Republican, that a few well-chosen prosecutions of Federalist newspapers would have a "wholesome effect in restoring the integrity of the press." They probably published something bad about him, as much of a brilliant man as he was, he had a thin skin and never looked at his own actions objectively
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What about executing Bradley Manning? He started it all. He should be exposed to nuclear radiation in a critical mass phase.
Yeah. He does look like a little pile of puke.
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Yeah. He does look like a little pile of puke.
The US Government can and possibly should charge PFC Manning with a crime in Military Court. Depending on the charge. Firing Squad is a possible punishment.
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The US Government can and possibly should charge PFC Manning with a crime in Military Court. Depending on the charge. Firing Squad is a possible suitable punishment.
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The US Government can and possibly should charge PFC Manning with a crime in Military Court. Depending on the charge. Firing Squad is a possible punishment.
IIRC the US military no longer uses the firing squad. But lethal injection is still on the table.
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IIRC the US military no longer uses the firing squad. But lethal injection is still on the table.
Well that is stupid, I hated when they ended hanging as well.
Frankly both are more humane and dignified than putting people to sleep like animals.
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I would think that some government agency has this file and is already working to break the encryption.
It's a 256-character password. Virtually unbreakable.
DoD has been trying since July.
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It's a 256-character password. Virtually unbreakable.
DoD has been trying since July.
Prime number?....what do I know about codes....ZERO.
So how hard is a 256 character password to break? ....oh about umpteen trillion combo's. times 10 to the umpteenth power.
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Prime number?....what do I know about codes....ZERO.
So how hard is a 256 character password to break? ....oh about umpteen trillion combo's. times 10 to the umpteenth power.
Letters, numbers, characters, upper and lower case.
Even if only 75 possibilities, raise that to the 256th power. Just over 1E+480. That's 1 followed by 480 zeroes.
The Chinese supercomputer currently regarded as the world's fastest can do 2.5 PFLOPS (FLOPS-Floating Point OPerations Second) P-Peta or 10E+15. At that rate, it would be able to crack the code...
...in about 1 E+458 YEARS.
By way of comparison, the standard Microsoft key for their equipment (Word, Windows, etc) consists of 25 characters of either letters or numbers (case insensitive). So, 26 letters and 10 numbers:
36 ^ 25 = 8 E+38. Divide that by 2E+15, you get 4E+23 seconds, or about 12.7 QUADRILLION years.
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Ok here, Fox has interviewed dozens of ex-military--retired naturally-- and with some very hard questions all with out exception have had the same reaction.
We have to realise these men will continue to network among their old Buddy's, discuss this problem from dawn to dark trying to understand what is going on.
All in so many words said " Frankly, this is unheard of, I have no idea what the government is doing, [WE] are all mind boggled about this, something is going on that is unbelievable."
All this about exposing foreign spy's ---didn't this expose an aid to someone high up in Parliament in England.
I have the idea that these leaks will go easy on the USA, embarrassing but the information just may topple corrupt leaders overseas. Perhaps some nasty in America will be exposed to the light of day.
What ever the master mind behind this has stated that the information will work for a better world. One must wonder if this is a man who has decided to change the world for the better. In his own mind.
Interesting that our government cannot do anything to stop him, We knew 6+ months ago this was coming, we had time to either stop it or as we have, show total shock that ONE man could cause this havoc.
One man holding the world hostage--what does this man have 666 behind his Left ear.???
I would myself like to know just what he found that causes all this distress and lamenting and tears around the world.
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The Bank of America Hard Drive.
The Governments around the world were not that pissy till he said he was going to release information from that.
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Really, everyone who thinks they might have secrets at stake should just accept that the cat is out of the bag at this point, and proceed to consequence management mode as well as retribution on Assange.
The problem with this 'Insurance' strategy is that it is not a two-player game between Assange and one government, there are multiple governments, corporate entities, and powerful individuals involved, all it takes to tip this bucket over is for one of them the calculate that opening the file will probably do a lot more damage to an important rival than it will to that entity itself. If the entity which reaches that conclusion is given to 'direct' means of problem resolution, he's a dead man.
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Really, everyone who thinks they might have secrets at stake should just accept that the cat is out of the bag at this point, and proceed to consequence management mode as well as retribution on Assange.
The problem with this 'Insurance' strategy is that it is not a two-player game between Assange and one government, there are multiple governments, corporate entities, and powerful individuals involved, all it takes to tip this bucket over is for one of them the calculate that opening the file will probably do a lot more damage to an important rival than it will to that entity itself. If the entity which reaches that conclusion is given to 'direct' means of problem resolution, he's a dead man.
Basically, the only fool here is Assagne if he hasn't yet made peace with his dear and fluffy lord. At some point, someone in a position to do something very nasty to him will have figured out that the damage is done whether the memos are released or not, and about all they can do at that point is extract some measure of retribution.
Bottom line, Assange is a dead man walking at this point, whether he wants to admit it or not.
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You must hate Jefferson.
I highly doubt Thomas Jefferson would approve of a foreign national attempting to hold our country hostage while he pranced about the world media, gleefully wagging his finger in all of our faces. I think that a man who took it upon himself to kick the shit out the Barbary Pirates would hardly seek to let a hostile and hateful press just continue on smartly with the destruction of what he fought so hard to create.
That is unless you have some great information you could enlighten us with?
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I wonder if our code breakers have tried the obvious Fibonacci sequence??
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The encryption and key would have been digitally generated with an algorithm heavily relieant on randomization algorithms rather than being based on a predictable series. Crytanalysts would of course have a leg up if they knew what program was used to do it, since digital randomization isn't truly random, but only emulates it, and knowing which algorithms were involved greatly enhances the chance of decryption. Of course that may decrease it from 10,000 years to 1,000 years...
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I highly doubt Thomas Jefferson would approve of a foreign national attempting to hold our country hostage while he pranced about the world media, gleefully wagging his finger in all of our faces. I think that a man who took it upon himself to kick the shit out the Barbary Pirates would hardly seek to let a hostile and hateful press just continue on smartly with the destruction of what he fought so hard to create.
That is unless you have some great information you could enlighten us with?
The panic now is over the Bank of America Hard Drive.
Most of the state department cables are giant :yawn:
Arabs hate Iran as much as Israel :couch:
The State Department uses diplomats to spy :couch:
OMG Americans and British make fun of the French :lame:
Harmard Karzai and his brother are corrupt :lastyear:
There is nothing revealed thus far that is earth breaking, or anything that any intelligence agency in the world above Kazakistan isn't aware of.
The panic right now is over the hard drive of a major US bank, and my guess information that would make the political class look like what many have suspected they are.
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And yet to be useful, someone, somewhere must hold the key. What is the old story about keeping a secret?
Three men can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.
Benjamin Franklin
I smell waterboarding. :rotf:
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And yet to be useful, someone, somewhere must hold the key. What is the old story about keeping a secret?
I smell waterboarding. :rotf:
I have a feeling the insurance file comes out sooner rather than later.
I also have a feeling it contains nothing but Bank information.
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I have a feeling the insurance file comes out sooner rather than later.
I also have a feeling it contains nothing but Bank information.
It could contain information on who was paid how much by BofA.
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It could contain information on who was paid how much by BofA.
Given that Bank of America gave the DNC a 15 million dollar line of credit this November, I thought you guys would be cheering this.
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Given that Bank of America gave the DNC a 15 million dollar line of credit this November, I thought you guys would be cheering this.
I have never been a big fan of BOA. What really sucks is several years ago they took over the bank I have always done business with for checking. 15M line of credit? Wonder how much they burned through. Going to be tough fund raising for the dems. Next thing you know they will all be selling Hillary DVD's out of the back of their Government Caddys at Wal Mat parking lots across the fruited plain. :rotf:
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Given that Bank of America gave the DNC a 15 million dollar line of credit this November, I thought you guys would be cheering this.
Allentownjake's idea of bipartisanship: badmouthing both sides ::)
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If WikiLeaks releases bank/insurance information, could they have personal informations on them?
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If WikiLeaks releases bank/insurance information, could they have personal informations on them?
Unlikely that these documents would contain such. It's a "targeted" leak - aimed at the institution not the individual. From what I can gather anyway.
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Unlikely that these documents would contain such. It's a "targeted" leak - aimed at the institution not the individual. From what I can gather anyway.
That's still bad. I wonder if they will identify the leaker for that one?
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Allentownjake's idea of bipartisanship: badmouthing both sides ::)
I'm not a fan of political parties. View them as a cancer.
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Allentownjake's idea of bipartisanship: badmouthing both sides ::)
I'm okay with that, myself; 35 years in DoD can seriously degrade one's appreciation for groupthink.
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I'm okay with that, myself; 35 years in DoD can seriously degrade one's appreciation for groupthink.
That is a fact.
Never ask me about TQL or Covey's Seven Deadly Habits of Defective People. :banghead:
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That is a fact.
Never ask me about TQL or Covey's Seven Deadly Habits of Defective People. :banghead:
Oh, damn, you had to bring that up...
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Oh, damn, you had to bring that up...
:censored:
It is my sad duty to report that I was, through no fault of my own, a talking head for TQL at one point in my career. Fortunately I found and enrolled in a Twelve Step Scott Adams program.
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That is a fact.
Never ask me about TQL or Covey's Seven Deadly Habits of Defective People. :banghead:
I almost had my breakfast digested until I read that.
ETA: Since were doing Dilbert, this is MY company...
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