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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on December 01, 2010, 11:34:41 AM
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-01-10 11:54 AM
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I walked out of a store today because
the Christmas music was making me anxious. Going to do my weekly errands in town has become a source of stress. How to make the gas to get there stretch, how to make the grocery budget money cover the necessities, and hoping against hope that nothing breaks during the week which absolutely must be replaced. I started my shopping going off of my carefully prepared list, but my attention kept wandering and my heart started pounding so hard I could hear it in my ears and I got that feeling in the pit of my stomach you get when you need to take flight. I did. I wheeled my cart over by the customer service stand and ask the lady if I could leave it there for a bit and I went outside to calm myself. I realized I was panicking and that, as I sought to calm myself, some of the relief came from not being exposed to the loud Christmas music in the store. This holiday finds me anxious and scared and angry. I'm sick of being told I have to shop to support an economy which doesn't support us adequately. I'm sick of being told that our lives are not worth the effort of extremely wealthy people who benefit from our labor and spending to invest in our infrastructure and in jobs. I'm sick of hearing about jittery millionaires and billionaires who won't invest because they don't know what their tax rates will be for the next year. I'm sick of being extorted.
I will not Christmas shop this year. I gave a little money to my daughter for her to buy clothing for the grandchildren for Christmas, but beyond those essentials, I will not spend one thin dime to line the pockets of another freaking filthy rich person who will shelter it overseas or in hedge funds. We will continue to buy the necessities and nothing else.
Hashmark. I thought you were above telling bouncies!!
grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-01-10 11:58 AM
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2. maybe you could find some pleasure in buying handmade local items...
...from people who desperately need the money. People still do make handmade toys and sewn items and artwork and much more. Maybe there's a market or Christmas fair where they gather to show their stuff.
In other words, buy the stuff I made so I can have money and buy some quality things.
FarCenter (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-01-10 12:03 PM
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6. If you are a Christian, go to service on 12/24-25: Otherwise ignore all the crap
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 12:04 PM by FarCenter
All the rest of the BS was invented by merchants in the mid 1800s.
Go to church???? Bela Pelosi could withstand direct sunlight first.
BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-01-10 12:09 PM
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9. Um
sounds self inflicted if you ask me. Xanax may be the answer.
Any reason to use drugs.
Ginto (300 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-01-10 12:16 PM
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14. Waking up a lot at 6AM to "I Got You Babe" by Sonny and Cher? nt
:confused:
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Drama queen much? Someone's afraid they're not getting a pretty pink tutu for Christmas!
Cindie
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-01-10 11:54 AM
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I will not Christmas shop this year. I gave a little money to my daughter for her to buy clothing for the grandchildren for Christmas, but beyond those essentials, I will not spend one thin dime to line the pockets of another freaking filthy rich person who will shelter it overseas or in hedge funds. We will continue to buy the necessities and nothing else.
Oh really?!! ::) ::)
Maybe you should ask the imposter where the money he gets from "redistributing the wealth" in America is going. How's that sound? Your money is going overseas regardless idiot.
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Skidmarks must've had to cut back on his dope funds recently and is somewhat detoxing.
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Ginto (300 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-01-10 12:16 PM
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14. Waking up a lot at 6AM to "I Got You Babe" by Sonny and Cher? nt
:confused:
From the movie Groundhog Day.
Which makes for a curious X-mas reference except the holiday decor was still up in February in the movie.
On a side note: skidmark is pathetic and should hang himself.
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:confused:
From the movie Groundhog Day.
Which makes for a curious X-mas reference except the holiday decor was still up in February in the movie.
On a side note: skidmark is pathetic and should hang himself.
I never saw the movie. :o
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Oh, I thought this was going to be a bouncy about Christmas music. I thought a DUmmy was going to start a riot in a store because of the music burning their ears.
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sick of hearing about jittery millionaires and billionaires who won't invest because they don't know what their tax rates will be for the next year. I'm sick of being extorted.
How do you think they feel? Ya know, Skidmarks, this is called "going Galt" and we said it would happen all along, and you would feel utterly powerless.
Skidmarked underwear is a hang-wringer of long standing. No surprise she had a panic attack in a store from Christmas music.
As a matter of fact, Grasswire was on to something. A Christmas gift doesn't have be a piece of stuff purchased at a big box store. Skids could open her heart and imagination and maybe refer to last year's threads about the DUmmie's homemade gifts made out of bits of garbage. Oh nostalgia, GOBUCKS and I had a good laugh at that last year.
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2. maybe you could find some pleasure in buying handmade local items...
...from people who desperately need the money. People still do make handmade toys and sewn items and artwork and much more. Maybe there's a market or Christmas fair where they gather to show their stuff.
You DUmmies won't buy it because you can get the same thing made in China at WAL-MART a whole lot cheaper.
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Skidmarks must've had to cut back on his dope funds recently and is somewhat detoxing.
The skidmarked underwear primitive's a disconsolate farmwife in eastern Iowa, aged circa 60 years.
Her husband works in a factory somewhere.
I've read the skidmarked underwear primitive for years, and she strikes me as someone who had very definite plans for life from birth, and got all bent out of shape at an early age because life wasn't what she demanded it be.
Alas! the poor skidmarked underwear primitive! alas! the poor melancholy farmwife! alas!
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Bitch slap
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-01-10 12:25 PM
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22. Biting my tongue here, but no it is not self-inflicted.
About five years ago, I lost my job at the same time I was diagnosed with cancer. I'm on the downward slope of a century, but I went back to school after I had recuperated my health a bit and spent 18 months working on a certification in something new. In those 5 years, I have only been able to find work once as a temp for 9 months. My husband continues to work well past retirement age so we would be able to hold onto a good health insurance plan that covers the annual tests I need to get my prescriptions. We have been thrifty and debt free for most of our lives but as these years are passing we are being squeezed more and more. We do not live nor have we ever lived extravagant lives, even when the kids were not adults. We have worked hard for the little that we have.
It is becoming harder to not feel stressed by the current economy.
I trust you live well or just don't give a tinker's damn about anything beyond yourself. I know that if I am experiencing this, many others are too. And that we are being called upon to sacrifice more so that those who tanked this economy can prosper. Not certain where or why the snarkiness from you, but it this is a very real concern to me and to others.
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38. No, I just find
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 01:09 PM by BoneDaddy
people often choose to draw attention to the drama of their lives and tend to identify themselves and live in their wounds as a way to get attention. Do you realize you listed above your shopping list of problems as if to insulate yourself from any criticism? I see that dynamic all day and it doesn't work on me.
I would be embarassed to admit that Christmas music caused an anxiety attack. You don't seem phased by it and it gives you an opportunity to tie that into a diatribe about your personal views about the holidays. When called on it, I get your personal history that sets the stage as "poor you" and "me the bad guy who shouldn't have picked on poor you."
People access power in many ways in life. One of them is the victim/martyr. It is a way for you to gather sympathy, energy and attention from others and when called on it, it becomes a safe place to retreat to. I find it to be a cop out.
This really isn't personal. It is probably an accumulation of reading so many whining posts by Duers about the holidays, all the self imposed and created problems and the hand wringing that goes along with it. Christmas is a commercial act, get used to it as it probably will not change anytime soon. Why? with all your health problems would you choose to get so worked up? I don't get it. You must have mentioned how "sick" you were at least 5-6 times, and you wonder why you are sick.
Edited: Wow, and you complained about my post too. How fitting.
That's gonna leave a mark.
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What a bunch of whinging little soft-cocks.
Harden the **** up you bunch of panty wringing douchebags.
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What a bunch of whinging little soft-cocks.
Harden the **** up you bunch of panty wringing douchebags.
:lmao: :lmao: H5! Good one. (Good thing I read that before drinking coffee).
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What a bunch of whinging little soft-cocks.
Harden the **** up you bunch of panty wringing douchebags.
Geez, LC . . . Tell us how you really feel!
(Oh, H5 BTW!)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-01-10 11:54 AM
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I will not Christmas shop this year. I gave a little money to my daughter for her to buy clothing for the grandchildren for Christmas, but beyond those essentials, I will not spend one thin dime to line the pockets of another freaking filthy rich person who will shelter it overseas or in hedge funds. We will continue to buy the necessities and nothing else.
Geez! Thanks grandma! ::) :hammer:
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-01-10 11:54 AM
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I walked out of a store today because
the Christmas music was making me anxious. Going to do my weekly errands in town has become a source of stress. How to make the gas to get there stretch, how to make the grocery budget money cover the necessities, and hoping against hope that nothing breaks during the week which absolutely must be replaced. I started my shopping going off of my carefully prepared list, but my attention kept wandering and my heart started pounding so hard I could hear it in my ears and I got that feeling in the pit of my stomach you get when you need to take flight. I did. I wheeled my cart over by the customer service stand and ask the lady if I could leave it there for a bit and I went outside to calm myself. I realized I was panicking and that, as I sought to calm myself, some of the relief came from not being exposed to the loud Christmas music in the store. This holiday finds me anxious and scared and angry. I'm sick of being told I have to shop to support an economy which doesn't support us adequately. I'm sick of being told that our lives are not worth the effort of extremely wealthy people who benefit from our labor and spending to invest in our infrastructure and in jobs. I'm sick of hearing about jittery millionaires and billionaires who won't invest because they don't know what their tax rates will be for the next year. I'm sick of being extorted.
I will not Christmas shop this year. I gave a little money to my daughter for her to buy clothing for the grandchildren for Christmas, but beyond those essentials, I will not spend one thin dime to line the pockets of another freaking filthy rich person who will shelter it overseas or in hedge funds. We will continue to buy the necessities and nothing else
I have a better idea...check yourself into a mental ward.
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-01-10 11:56 AM
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1. This here is the true war on Christmas, right here. Not your actions, but the actions of the
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 11:57 AM by Brickbat
businesses and corporate interests that say we absolutely have to spend ourselves into oblivion in order to have a real holiday. And if we don't, we're bad citizens, bad people, Grinches and Scrooges, and party-poopers, and class war wannabes. It's a ******* mess.
Now wait a minute,here is a thread saying that without unemployment extensions that create spending the economy is doomed.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9664371
Which is it?
Skidmore (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-01-10 12:30 PM
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23. It is not just the spending for a holiday.
It is the idea that people with limited incomes are browbeaten to spend to support the economy. Period. All the while, jobs are being lost and not replaced and incomes pared down and you are expected to suck it up and take it while some bozo on the teevee who caters to the wealthy is telling you that they are passing over the $10K watches because those are considered to be of inferior quality. A $10K watch??? How else could that be invested to create bang for the buck?
Come on you traitor...spend yourself into riches.
BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-01-10 01:05 PM
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38. No, I just find
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 01:09 PM by BoneDaddy
people often choose to draw attention to the drama of their lives and tend to identify themselves and live in their wounds as a way to get attention. Do you realize you listed above your shopping list of problems as if to insulate yourself from any criticism? I see that dynamic all day and it doesn't work on me.
I would be embarassed to admit that Christmas music caused an anxiety attack. You don't seem phased by it and it gives you an opportunity to tie that into a diatribe about your personal views about the holidays. When called on it, I get your personal history that sets the stage as "poor you" and "me the bad guy who shouldn't have picked on poor you."
People access power in many ways in life. One of them is the victim/martyr. It is a way for you to gather sympathy, energy and attention from others and when called on it, it becomes a safe place to retreat to. I find it to be a cop out.
This really isn't personal. It is probably an accumulation of reading so many whining posts by Duers about the holidays, all the self imposed and created problems and the hand wringing that goes along with it. Christmas is a commercial act, get used to it as it probably will not change anytime soon. Why? with all your health problems would you choose to get so worked up? I don't get it. You must have mentioned how "sick" you were at least 5-6 times, and you wonder why you are sick.
Edited: Wow, and you complained about my post too. How fitting.
Some DUmp Christmas spirit you have.
Don`t you know that the island is nothing but whining,crying,tantrums,outrage,screaming about unfairness etc?
Get with the program.
Cal Carpenter (996 posts) Wed Dec-01-10 01:44 PM
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41. The opposite of what you say is happening here
The poster is using their own life to draw attention to the systemic economic troubles that many, if not most, Americans are facing right now. It's not a 'poor me' post by any means like you imply.
It isn't personal, you are right. The meat of the OP is about economic injustice. The personal story, however, makes the issue easier to relate to.
See?
Fla Dem (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-01-10 12:43 PM
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32. Wow your comments are powerful. I could physically feel your anger, anxiety and frustration.
This is a powerful message to send to your congress person, senator and most of all, the President. They need to hear more from people like you.
:rotf: :rotf:
obxhead (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-01-10 12:43 PM
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34. I had nearly the same thing happen yesterday in the bookstore.
I typically think of bookstores as a place for mellow sounds and moods. Yesterday while standing in line the xmas music was blasting so loud I set my small purchase on a shelf and just walked out.
**** it, everyone is getting handmade gifts or cash this year. I'm not going through it.
Sure,throw people out of their jobs.
handmade34 (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-02-10 08:30 AM
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78. I applaud you
I am with you 100%... I will never go out of my way to support those of much better means than myselfabout 12 years ago my oldest son suggested that if we are giving presents in the spirit of Christmas, then it should take place on January 6th (the Epiphany)... then as we discussed the season we decided that present giving at Christmastime was not really helpful or necessary for anyone. I still make my rum balls!, the kids still love eggnog and a tree in the house and we get together if we can to share a book or favorite movie. Wow, what an "epiphany" that was... life is much, much better at this time of year. I don't know why it took so long to figure this out.
We all really just want recognition, respect and some good cheer from each other anyways. The gifts happen now anytime someone really needs something or just for fun, when we decide to give them...
tigereye (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-02-10 08:39 AM
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79. well, your resistance to spending makes perfect sense -
the economy is in crappy shape and you would think that people with money, companies, what have you, would want to help others and not be holding on to it all. It really has never made any sense to me that economists, the market, investors, etc., can't see the link between people not having jobs, companies not hiring and laying folks off, people not having money to spend or concerned about loss of home or income, and then the bizarre pressure of feeding the economic engine when there is no money to spend on it. And then the market goes up while Congress dithers about extending unemployment benefits and corporate profits for the third quarter are extremely high. It's wacky. I really think that the market and investors should be cut out of the equation entirely. The market seems to hate workers or the idea of "real people."
It's truly bizarre.
for you.
The economy will never grow unless you spend spend spend.
Obama and Krugman said so.
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I love the thinking that for each buck of unemployment extensio..er welfare it creates $1.48 in the economy. If this were true we would all be on unemployment extensio..er welfare and the economy would grow 49% per annum. Also unicorn farts would provide for all our energy needs.
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Whoops...how did I miss this already posted? :thatsright:
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That's okay, you weren't the only one. :whistling:
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-01-10 12:30 PM
23. It is not just the spending for a holiday.
It is the idea that people with limited incomes are browbeaten to spend to support the economy. Period. All the while, jobs are being lost and not replaced and incomes pared down and you are expected to suck it up and take it while some bozo on the teevee who caters to the wealthy is telling you that they are passing over the $10K watches because those are considered to be of inferior quality. A $10K watch??? How else could that be invested to create bang for the buck?
Uh-huh. ::)
People with limited incomes are FORCED into Christmas shopping to support the economy, huh? :whatever:
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The skidmarked underwear primitive's a disconsolate farmwife in eastern Iowa, aged circa 60 years.
Her husband works in a factory somewhere.
I've read the skidmarked underwear primitive for years, and she strikes me as someone who had very definite plans for life from birth, and got all bent out of shape at an early age because life wasn't what she demanded it be.
Alas! the poor skidmarked underwear primitive! alas! the poor melancholy farmwife! alas!
Am I confusing the Skidmark with someone else? I seem to remember reading a post by her complaining of the racism experienced by both her husband and Obama, and how excited they were to see a black man become president.
If this is the same person, searching for slights everywhere can also contribute to anxiety.
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Uh-huh. ::)
People with limited incomes are FORCED into Christmas shopping to support the economy, huh? :whatever:
I don't know about the DUmmies, but we have a budget for Christmas. From recent evidence from the DUmp, the word 'budget' does not exist in their vocabulary. Macy's does not force people to spend their money. I've never ran up to anyone and said, "you will buy this $800 china set for your mother in law or else......"
Those people are such drama queens and kings. I think I spent a total of $80 on my daughter this Christmas... and she has a lot of things with that $80. It's money that I started setting aside a couple of months ago.
My parent's always had a budget for Christmas. Most of my extended family did too. I guess that makes too much sense though.
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I don't know about the DUmmies, but we have a budget for Christmas. From recent evidence from the DUmp, the word 'budget' does not exist in their vocabulary. Macy's does not force people to spend their money. I've never ran up to anyone and said, "you will buy this $800 china set for your mother in law or else......"
Those people are such drama queens and kings. I think I spent a total of $80 on my daughter this Christmas... and she has a lot of things with that $80. It's money that I started setting aside a couple of months ago.
My parent's always had a budget for Christmas. Most of my extended family did too. I guess that makes too much sense though.
"Budget" and "economics" are words that Dummies and liberals don't understand.
I would put "common sense" in that group as well.
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"Budget" and "economics" are words that Dummies and liberals don't understand.
I would put "common sense" in that group as well.
I think "budget" and "economics" spring from having "commonsense".
The DUmmies lack "commonsense". They're like monkeys. Monkey see, monkey want, monkey get. Monkey worry about food when monkey get hungry. Monkey worry about shelter when monkey gets cold. Monkey try to steal from other monkeys that "have".
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Am I confusing the Skidmark with someone else? I seem to remember reading a post by her complaining of the racism experienced by both her husband and Obama, and how excited they were to see a black man become president.
If this is the same person, searching for slights everywhere can also contribute to anxiety.
There's probably more, but the only bi-racial couples on Skins's island of which I'm aware are two:
FrenchieCat, an adamantine 0bamaite from California and cali, the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, was either once married (and now separated from) a black guy, or shacked up with one.
I'd say it's a good possibility you're thinking of the first, FrenchieCat, as the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive will admit to that relationship, but really never mentions it much, while our own FrenchieCat boasts and brags about it all the time.
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A $10K watch???
This is the difference between us and them, they see a $10K watch and scream it's unfair that someone has the money to purchase that watch but when we see a $10K watch we see the number of people employed to make and distribute said watch.
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This is the difference between us and them, they see a $10K watch and scream it's unfair that someone has the money to purchase that watch but when we see a $10K watch we see the number of people employed to make and distribute said watch.
Go to the Forum Shops in Vegas. There's sections of Torneau where $10K is "cheap".
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I swear these people are economic illiterates, you don't have to be a math whiz or an economist to figure out what crap is going through their rotted minds. Does Skidmare really think she or the poor would be better off if the 'rich' paid more taxes? Does she not realize that businesses pass on the costs to the consumers (that'd be her and fellow DUmmies) because that is whats supposed to happen?
I swear if they had their way we'd be standing in line all day hoping for the chance to turn in our wheelbarrow of worthless dollars for a stale loaf of bread. Then they would still be blaming some 'rich' people for their problems.
Absolute morons.
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I think "budget" and "economics" spring from having "commonsense".
The DUmmies lack "commonsense". They're like monkeys. Monkey see, monkey want, monkey get. Monkey worry about food when monkey get hungry. Monkey worry about shelter when monkey gets cold. Monkey try to steal from other monkeys that "have".
That was EPIC Johnny. H5! :cheersmate:
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The majority of them are Darwinists... it's a fitting description.
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There's probably more, but the only bi-racial couples on Skins's island of which I'm aware are two:
FrenchieCat, an adamantine 0bamaite from California and cali, the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, was either once married (and now separated from) a black guy, or shacked up with one.
I'd say it's a good possibility you're thinking of the first, FrenchieCat, as the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive will admit to that relationship, but really never mentions it much, while our own FrenchieCat boasts and brags about it all the time.
Frenchie mentions her husband? :o I thought all her love and devotion was for her Messiah. :-)
As for Skidmore's hubby, it's bugging me, frank, but I could swear I saw a post where she's moaning about her hubby being dumped on for being black. Oh well, maybe I will rediscover the post some day.
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The only money we spend at Christmas is on the grandkids. I have to admit, "Toots" can really go overboard for the youngest! At least she bought "Butt Nugget" a set of Nerf "Dart Tag" guns so I can play with her when I play daycare every other week! So far, it's the best present "I've" got this year! hehehehe
Well, that and "BigFoot"! lol!
ETA:
Yeah, I'm goin' thru my second childhood! They didn't have all these neat toys when I was that young!
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Hashmark. I thought you were above telling bouncies!!
In other words, buy the stuff I made so I can have money and buy some quality things.
Go to church???? Bela Pelosi could withstand direct sunlight first.
Any reason to use drugs.
:confused:
It's from Groundhog Day...
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The only money we spend at Christmas is on the grandkids. I have to admit, "Toots" can really go overboard for the youngest! At least she bought "Butt Nugget" a set of Nerf "Dart Tag" guns so I can play with her when I play daycare every other week! So far, it's the best present "I've" got this year! hehehehe
Well, that and "BigFoot"! lol!
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Yeah, I'm goin' thru my second childhood! They didn't have all these neat toys when I was that young!
They didn't even have all these neat toys when my kids were young, 20 odd years ago. I swear every toy the one and only grandchild possesses is battery operated and makes all kinds of squawking sounds. What's really creepy is when he's back with his mother and her parents and one of my critters manages to activate the toy's soundbox.