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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on November 30, 2010, 03:45:27 PM
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 12:48 PM
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How can 37% of Americans be in favor of tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 percent among us?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/142940/americans-allowing-ta...
September 10, 2010
Americans OK Allowing Tax Cuts for Wealthy to Expire
One in three favor keeping tax cuts for all taxpayers
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ -- A majority of Americans favor letting the tax cuts enacted during the Bush administration expire for the wealthy. While 37% support keeping the tax cuts for all Americans, 44% want them extended only for those making less than $250,000 and 15% think they should expire for all taxpayers.
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Can't be that many trust fund babies out there. Can there be?
Maybe because many of us live our lives not obsessed by school yard jealousy?
Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 12:49 PM
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1. See Joe The Plumber
They either mistakingly believe that they're in that top 10% or will be soon and want those breaks when it happens for them.
Drale (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 12:53 PM
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5. I heard this from like 4 different people
They want to treat the rich well, because well hell they might be rich someday and they would want to be treated well. Probably one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, but thats America today. Thanks alot Fox News, **** you as well.
yourout (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 12:53 PM
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6. Cause Rush told them to.
If he told them jumping off a cliff was a great idea our population would be about 30% smaller by tomorrow.
XemaSab (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 01:04 PM
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11. That 37% believes that they are or will be in that 2%
RT Atlanta (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 02:20 PM
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31. You're correct...
in my opinion. The pukes have to be commended for tapping into the "dream" part of the "American Dream" sales pitch, which is why folks buy into this crap.
30 years of "trickle down" has not produced much in the way of "trickle down" jobs and long term safety net for us.
Nothing will for the useless either.
Kweli4Real (553 posts) Tue Nov-30-10 01:07 PM
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16. Most likely ...
They believe that somehow, someway, they'll win the lottery or a long lost uncle will leave them a bunch of money, or maybe, they'll discover/invent the new "sliced bread" idea and become insanely wealthy. So JUST IN CASE, they gotta make sure the guv'ment don't get their hard earned money.
GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 02:13 PM
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27. Yep. Wannabes, all of them. n/t
treestar (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 02:58 PM
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37. This is exactly right
The mass American delusion that no evidence of reality can shake!
Drop effing dead you piece of shit loser. :bird:
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 02:16 PM
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29. Because some day they will be amongst the 2%
Common, if wrong headed belief, to the point of religious fervor.
Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 02:23 PM
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32. Good question. Short answer: pseudo-religious brainwashing.
There is such a thing as mass brainwashing, but I know of no comparable mass "snapping-out-of-it" technique. Until we discover how to do that, we have a problem.
Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 02:28 PM
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33. Because 37% are under the delusion that one day they will enter the realm of the 1%
TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 03:02 PM
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40. think of how goofy the average person is, and keep in mind half the population is dumber than that
And they all post at the DUmp.
Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 03:41 PM
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43. It's called stupidity. And gullibility.
The mouth-breathers are so easily led around by the nose that they believe anything the right wing noise machine tells them. They'll vote against their own best interests in a heartbeat because they are so stupid.
Here is a little secret DUmbasses.
I doubt I will ever be "rich" as far as monetary wealth and guess what...I don`t give a crap.
I will be rich in a couple of things though like self esteem and knowing I have done my best.
You are losers and failures and will always be because that is what you not only accept in yourselves but strive for it.
:bird: :bird:
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DUmasses. The top 2% pay the MOST taxes as it is.
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DUmasses. The top 2% pay the MOST taxes as it is.
That's not enough, they should pay all of the taxes. /DU mode
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This thread makes me want to set fire to something.
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How stupid do you have to be to believe that if you tax the top 2% more that the government will give it to you. That is what these idiots believe. Obama is going to put all that extra money in his stash and pay their rent and gas bill. Then when even more of the losers get let go from their job they will wonder where Obama is because they are still paying their own rent and gas bill.....only it costs even more. Where did "Obama's Stash" go?
All this is is class envy and Obama stokes the flames consistently. When he talks of all these millionaire and billionaires getting 100,000's of dollars in tax "breaks", he stops short of mentioning that they are in the minority of the 2%. There are a lot more people making $200,000 (single) - $250,000 (married) than there are billionaires yet he lumps them all together.
My husband is in the top 2%, he has earned every single dollar he has ever made. He has worked since he was 14 (a busboy at a pancake restaurant). Went to college and it took ten years to pay it off. He has worked his way up to be in the position he is in now...just as the great majority of those who are in the top 2% have done.
Quit worrying about what your neighbors have DU, spend that time trying to better yourself.
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What i learned early on is that the tax code is set up to hurt high earners not rich people. It is set up to keep rich/old money in the same hands generation after generation. The old money fights real hard to keep any new rich people getting into the club. This explains why the democrats want higher taxes.
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What i learned early on is that the tax code is set up to hurt high earners not rich people. It is set up to keep rich/old money in the same hands generation after generation. The old money fights real hard to keep any new rich people getting into the club. This explains why the democrats want higher taxes.
Ding ding ding...you win.
The truly rich can afford fancy tax shelters to hide their money.
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What i learned early on is that the tax code is set up to hurt high earners not rich people. It is set up to keep rich/old money in the same hands generation after generation. The old money fights real hard to keep any new rich people getting into the club. This explains why the democrats want higher taxes.
Which is why some of the DUmmies want to tax the wealth of the rich, not just their incomes.
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 12:48 PM
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How can 37% of Americans be in favor of tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 percent among us?
Well, try to articulate why tax cuts help the economy if you make $200,000, but hurt it if you make $300,000, and then get back to us when you have a logical, coherent answer.
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What i learned early on is that the tax code is set up to hurt high earners not rich people. It is set up to keep rich/old money in the same hands generation after generation. The old money fights real hard to keep any new rich people getting into the club. This explains why the democrats want higher taxes.
There is a term for that. It's called a caste society, and that's what the end result of socialism will be (i.e. 1984).
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How can 37% of Americans be in favor of tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 percent among us?
Because of an innate sense of fairness and freedom.
Taxes represent a loss of freedom, both at the point where they are extracted and with the burgeoning bureaucracy they help build. To say that "the rich" shouldn't have their taxes reduced along with everyone else is to deny them the same level of freedom we seek for ourselves, and as American citizens that would be wrong and hypocritical.
No one I have ever met who advocates tax decreases across the board does so with the idea in mind that they may be rich someday. That is nothing but a Leftist meme designed to paint conservatives as delusional.
To be sure, there are those dream their days away thinking about winning a lottery or what they're going to do "when they're rich." Of course, they have no plan to get rich, it's just a mixture of magical thinking and good old-fashioned fantasy. In my experience it's those people who are envious of the rich and whine about how "it ain't right" that so-and-so has so much while they themselves have so little, and how those "rich bastards oughtta be taxed more." Meanwhile they continue to fantasize and believe they'll be rich someday while they keep doing the same things that got them financially insecure to begin.
Those individuals generally vote Democrat.
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^Now don't go making sense now.
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Because of an innate sense of fairness and freedom.
Taxes represent a loss of freedom, both at the point where they are extracted and with the burgeoning bureaucracy they help build. To say that "the rich" shouldn't have their taxes reduced along with everyone else is to deny them the same level of freedom we seek for ourselves, and as American citizens that would be wrong and hypocritical.
No one I have ever met who advocates tax decreases across the board does so with the idea in mind that they may be rich someday. That is nothing but a Leftist meme designed to paint conservatives as delusional.
To be sure, there are those dream their days away thinking about winning a lottery or what they're going to do "when they're rich." Of course, they have no plan to get rich, it's just a mixture of magical thinking and good old-fashioned fantasy. In my experience it's those people who are envious of the rich and whine about how "it ain't right" that so-and-so has so much while they themselves have so little, and how those "rich bastards oughtta be taxed more." Meanwhile they continue to fantasize and believe they'll be rich someday while they keep doing the same things that got them financially insecure to begin.
Those individuals generally vote Democrat.
That would be my moonbat brother.
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How many people making less that $250,000 are going to be creating jobs? How many people making more than $250,000 are going to be creating jobs? How many fewer jobs will they create due to higher taxes, the healthcare stupidity, and just basic insecurity over the threat from Obama?
How much more money will government receive from more workers paying fair taxes? How much money will government save when workers no longer draw endless amounts of unemployment?
Why is this so difficult for Dims to comprehend?
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Hello Jealousy, you rang?
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When did 'rich' become a four letter word? Define 'rich'.
If the class baiters like Dinglebarry and the DUmmies did a little research they'd be surprised.
The 'middle-class millionaire'
SANTA MONICA, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- Those with a net worth of between $1 million and $10 million -- that they have earned rather than inherited -- are being dubbed "middle-class millionaires," a group that has grown on the heels of the economic boom over the past couple decades.
Middle-class millionaires now account for 10% of the U.S. population, according Russ Alan Prince and Lewis Schiff, who coined the term for research purposes and a new book by that name. They studied almost 4,000 households to better understand attitudes, values and purchasing patterns.
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•7.6% of American households, or 8.4 million households are middle-class millionaires
•The average middle-class millionaire works 70 hours per week
•Middle-class millionaires are five times more likely than the average worker to say they are always available for work
•89% believes that anyone can attain wealth through hard work
•62% believes that networking, or knowing many people, is the key to financial success
•Nine out of 10 middle-class millionaires say they made a bad career or business move, but almost three-fourths say that was crucial to their business success
•They are five times more likely than the average middle-class person to continue on in the same business course in spite an earlier failure
•65% of middle-class millionaires characterize their approach to negotiating as "doing whatever you need to do to win"
•They say they need a net worth of $24 million to feel wealthy, and $13.4 million to be considered rich.
MORE (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rise-of-the-middle-class-millionaire-is-reshaping-us-culture)
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Drale (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-30-10 12:53 PM
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5. I heard this from like 4 different people They want to treat the rich well, because well hell they might be rich someday and they would want to be treated well. Probably one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, but thats America today. Thanks alot Fox News, **** you as well.
This DUmmie has it all figured out I guess.::)
It' Fox News' fault now and not Bush's fault. :lmao: The DUmp, where the stupid never ends.
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How can 37% of Americans be in favor of tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 percent among us?
I think if people actually paid attention and knew the ramifications on raising taxes on those making over $250,000 (small business owners) then I think that 37% figure would be higher.